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 Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V3, Panasonic G/GH/GFx & Olympus E-P/E-PLx

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post Dec 6 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:14 PM)
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Olympus E-P2 ..KLIM 2010
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Wow! This one is one hell of a fire figure double 8.....hellfire8888 sweat.gif


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post Dec 17 2010, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Dec 17 2010, 05:47 PM)
this foto is blurry cause u dont have enuff shuttle speed..and worst why din u use the flash?? try bump the iso to 1600 and reshoot at situation like tat...
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Although it looks bit blurry but the atmosphere shows the action with some motion. Its still a nice shot though..
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post Dec 18 2010, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(frequency @ Dec 17 2010, 11:05 PM)
good tips faidz...

20mm is really fast...

and reminder to those who got E-PL1 having slow focus problem, please upgrade your firmware
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Yes the 20mm is fast but sometimes the focus is not spot on. I find using my manual focus 35mm f1.4 get less errors and sometimes faster focus especially in low light conditions.
And yes i use single spot focus all the time. The FOV for the 20mm is a bit wide making the focusing spot a bit large for spot on focus of smaller objects further away. There r ways round this like activating manual focus after AF. Then again to view this fine tuned on the LCD is tricky so a EVF is a must.

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post Dec 19 2010, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 19 2010, 09:22 AM)
Couldn't tahan after playing with this today so now must eat maggi mee till CNY  cry.gif
The aperture and focusing dial is just so smooth and solid. I dont know how to explain it, just makes my Lumix G lens feel like toys now.
Sorry for the bad pics, I took this photos in very low light using my 20mm F1.7 - couldnt wait till daylight to take a few shots and show off my excitement  sweat.gif
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I see the aperture scale 16/8/4:4/8/16 looks narrow. I would luv to see the hyperfocal scale set at infinity on the F16 mark (right side). rolleyes.gif Could you post a pic on this

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post Dec 26 2010, 04:51 PM

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Looks like a juvenile bird so will not fly off instantly.

Any prizes for guessing correctly? brows.gif

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post Jan 10 2011, 06:56 AM

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Next time we will have instant HDR on our cameras and we dont have to worry about Dynamic range
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post Feb 6 2011, 08:46 PM

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On the EPL1, can anybody enlighten me what or how are your settings Optimised to for Noise Reduction and Noise Filter? Much appreciated.
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:31 PM

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Here is something i found on the web:

How does the E-PL1 combat noise commonly found at high ISOs?

Digital cameras vary the light sensitivity of the image sensor by varying the gain voltage applied to the sensor, much like turning up the volume on a stereo. When the gain voltage is increased, as it is when shooting with higher ISOs, the sensor becomes hot. Hot pixels perform differently under extreme conditions. The result is a graininess known as “noise.”

Noise occurs whenever sufficient heat has built up on the image sensor. Therefore, it can also be seen in images with long exposures, such as night photographs, due to the additional heat generated by charging the sensor for an extended period of time. All digital cameras include technologies to minimize the effects of noise. The E-PL1 uses a sensor that dramatically decreases noise. In addition, it combats noise with two methods: NOISE FILTER and NOISE REDUCTION.

The NOISE FILTER function is found in the menu. It has four options: OFF, LOW, STANDARD and HIGH. The majority of digital cameras have a default noise filter that is always on. Some photographers feel that this reduces detail, so Olympus has included the option to not use a noise filter at all.

If NOISE FILTER is set to OFF, it is recommended to set the SHARPNESS setting to –2. If SHARPNESS is set to 0 it may exaggerate the noise when no noise filtering is being applied.

The NOISE REDUCTION function can also be enabled from the menu. After the first exposure, the camera makes a second exposure of equal length with the shutter closed. It then, in effect, overlays the two images, finds the hot pixels in the second image (essentially, any pixels that aren't black) and deletes the corresponding pixels from the first image. This doubles the shooting time. If the first exposure is 12 minutes 30 seconds, the second, black exposure will also be 12 minutes 30 seconds for a total exposure time of 25 minutes.
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Feb 7 2011, 03:42 PM)
Also remember to change the Gradation to Normal. Default is Auto and it always attempt to lift the shadows revealing noise in these areas. In my opinion, the best optimization is to shoot Raw and deal with them on the post processing stage.
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OK, thats some thought to tinkle about...
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post Feb 7 2011, 03:46 PM

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This strikes me:
If NOISE FILTER is set to OFF, it is recommended to set the SHARPNESS setting to –2. If SHARPNESS is set to 0 it may exaggerate the noise when no noise filtering is being applied.


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 7 2011, 03:45 PM)
i dunno about u.. but m43 majority user is not PP user... we're jpg shooter
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Me a jpeg too. Read somewhere that Oly Jpegs r as good as raw or is it the other way round. Tweaking raw has not much advantage as someone pointed.

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post Feb 7 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Feb 7 2011, 03:42 PM)
Also remember to change the Gradation to Normal. Default is Auto and it always attempt to lift the shadows revealing noise in these areas. In my opinion, the best optimization is to shoot Raw and deal with them on the post processing stage.
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Got quote from this link about Gradation;

The gradation feature takes advantage of Olympus' Shadow Adjustment Technology. The normal option is your standard automatic contrast feature. Auto gradation breaks the image down into smaller segments, and adjusts the contrast for each of those areas, which should result in better detail in shadow and highlight areas. The high key option emphasizes the highlights (big time, in the example below), while low key does just the opposite. Here you can see all four of the gradation options in action:

Link is here;

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/olympus/...view/using#grad


It seems like by using Auto Gradation, Highlight clipping can be controlled...Hmmm
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post Feb 8 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Feb 8 2011, 10:52 AM)
You have a point there. They comprise a large majority of people coming from compacts. The good news is Olympus's out of camera jpegs are great. My point was that if you shoot raw, you get to squeeze more potential from the sensor from a noise vs detail perspective. Its a challenge but its worth a try if one is willing to learn.
Yup you got it right. Its like trying to 'extend' the dynamic range in a different method. Some exposes a picture in different shots and them combine them while Olympus splits it into segments and lifts the exposure from in camera processing. The downside is that when you brighten up an area with little information to begin with, you get noise in these areas (irrespective of what ISO you're in).
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Thx so much for the hints. I am now setting up a custom setting base on these parameters, C -1, S -1, Grad -Normal, RGB -0. Noise filter -low, Noise Reduction -On (optional since it only works in shots 2sec below). So far shots at 1000 iso looks pretty good
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post Feb 10 2011, 02:18 PM

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Look here, EPL2 and kit lens shipped to Msia for US 601.00
Anybody tried this

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/7499..._W_14_42mm.html
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post Feb 10 2011, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(contreasjun27 @ Feb 10 2011, 03:14 PM)
It got cyber trust though...but how much is the shipping fee to malaysia?
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Price quoted is inclusive of UPS Worldwide saver @US$ 52.43
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post Jun 7 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(bchan28 @ Jun 7 2011, 03:32 PM)
Hi Sifu,

Want to add a external flash to my EPL2. Which one should I go for Olympus FL-14 or the Nissin DI466 (M4/3)?

The FL-14 is RM30 more expensive than the Di466. Any idea?

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Think u shoukld go for the Oly FL36. It does TTL remote flash

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