No wor... I chose a compact cos biggest problem is lens thickness. Even my iphone w batt pack is bigger than the xz1. The e-pm1 with lens mount is already same thickness as the xz1. At least better than nex lo. These new oly's have potential provided they can convince the brandist.

Ya man... if the AF can catch up with Panny and they don't take a step backwards on ISO... then I believe we have a winner here.

I think the caveat lies with the touchscreen interface (even if they have buttons) cos its not that easy to get the UI intuitively right.

Wah lau... u fellas like to hoard cameras huh

If I were u.... I'll keep the 7D... and if needed.... get rid of the XZ-1 for the mini PEN's.

Cos U mention dof photography .... try calculating the dof for (based on same focal distance) .....

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html.

- 7D with a 35mm f2 vs E-PL2 with 20mm f1.7 --> APS-C 50% more shallow dof
- LX5 (same sensor as ur XZ-1) 6-24mm f1.8-2.5 vs any m43 with 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 --> at full zoom... XZ-1 dof is half that of m43.

At least with the 7D, you'll still have the equipment to do telephoto and sports.

Nope.. it's not.

Yes I'm sure.

It's also logic... the m43 consortium shares the same lens mount niah.

It's not like you can put a Panasonic battery into an Olympus and vice versa right.

Get GF2 for wat... few more days left before Olympus launch their new PEN's... all 3 of them

Yup...the Ricoh system is damn bloody expensive but on the other hand, plonking $$ into m43 lens and accessories now also don't make sense lo.

Since its still a system in its infancy.

My wife just told me that she wants to get a simple to use camcorder... Hmm... so should I get a m43 or a dedicated camcorder?

What's the main difference between the 2?

That's the plan
It's not everyday that a potential justification for another camera comes along. She's got her mind set on the camcorder jor. I just need to change her mind.

ps: She not looking for something to make indie films la... just something for vids of my daughter running around. She doesn't like manual focussing on dslr so good vid AF is a must.

Newsbreak!!!

First pic of the new E-PM1

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-front-pi...-olympus-e-pm1/

Not as bad as the GF3 but not pretty either.

and now they claim the new PEN's got


Olympus PEN system by introducing a new Micro Four Thirds, has created an entirely new category of cameras. Now presented a new flagship model PEN, which increases the standards in this category. Camera PEN E-P3, or just PEN, has the fastest autofocus among all cameras with interchangeable lenses. Along with excellent AF FAST (Frequency Acceleration Sensor Technology – Sensor Technology Acceleration Frequency), and OLED touch screen provides an ideal alternative to the much bigger and more expensive SLRs. Standing at the forefront of the next generation of PEN, the E-P3 owes its incredible speed in focusing the new powerful processor. TruePic VI was developed specifically for not using the mirror cameras. In addition to the new system FAST AF, TruePic VI also controls ten artistic effects filters and a large touchscreen OLED. In combination with a faster and more sensitive 12.3 megapixel sensor, TruePic VI provides exceptional image quality, which is also visible in low light conditions. For experienced users, PEN has a special windfall – two knobs on the back, which facilitate quick adjustment of exposure time and aperture. Add to that the integrated image stabilization system that compensates for blur irrespective of the lens. Camera PEN E-P3 will be available from August 2011.

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-hot-full-e-p3-...nglish-website/

It has begun.......

E-PM1 looks very interesting for me.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jun 30 2011, 01:26 PM

Hmmm the JPG's NR quite heavy on ISO 1600 and above... the Paul Smith word on the watch not legible anymore compared with the APS-C competitors.
This is a darn worrying trend.. first the XZ-1 now the PEN's.

SSY22: Read this http://www.thephoblographer.com/2011/06/30...-3-and-12mm-f2/

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jun 30 2011, 02:08 PM

Err... YES.

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This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Jun 30 2011, 02:53 PM

So everyone's looking at the E-P3 but E-PL3 and E-PM1 not interesting?

With the new fast focus and the innocent PnS look + 17mm... and assuming it'll be cheap and cheerful... that could make a great street shooter.

Apparently these fastfocus are really pre-af niah. Ah well...

From my understanding (basic) of what I read so far.. the camera continues to samples the scene (it adjust focus even without half pressing shutter) to quicken up AF lock.

In essence, most of improvements in CDAF are made this way.

But what about situations whereby we don't give the camera time to samples the scene.. like in street photography.. frame with eyes.. camera set to center point AF....then quickly draw camera and fire a quick shot.

So far from the experience with my XZ-1 (the only CDAF camera with me now) is that it'll miss most of the time.

OK... impressive.