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evofantasy
post Nov 18 2010, 09:56 PM

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well its a good start and good appearance despite the small prize pool...
i think EU gonna pwn >.<
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Nov 18 2010, 10:32 PM)
Honestly if you look at TTone final games vs. Jinro, he is terribad. He doesn't even have any idea on how to counter Polt timing attack (I wonder if he even know what is Polt timing attack after he saw Jinro's factory flew over him in Game 1 and 3).
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actually in the steppes of war game he did really well with his timing push...
and polt timing attack is not ez to stop...
u need all 3 tech path with super micro and pray ur obs dun get sniped...
even if u scouted its nt ez to prepare for it...

so far i only saw 2 ppl hold it off at the pro lvl...
whitera and another guy in gsl...
even tester lost to it cry.gif

so TTone is definitely good...
his PvZ is so classy...
and socke have of the most entertaining protoss and unique style to me...
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Nov 18 2010, 10:42 PM)
The GSL guy is SanZenith. He held off the timing attack by proactively seek out Hyperdub's Raven and kill it using Phoenixes. But TTone? He continued to make Colo and not even thinking of making a Stargate even though he knew it's coming (I doubt whether he know Polt timing attack though, he seemed pretty clueless from his subsequent action).

Maybe this has just shown the level difference between Korean and the rest of the world.
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colossus is no doubt good as u can melt down the marines...
the other solution was whitera's robo+gate+cannons...
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:31 PM)
why no loves for qxc? he is half my sifu as i downloaded his f***ton of replays and learn 99...he might not be top terran like ITR and foxer but he gives replay so i must love love
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i like his drops n reaper...
but i generally support toss players as they are lackign wins T.T
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:52 PM)
love his plays man...but long way to go.

toss, i think its player quality not good? cuz actually toss has very high micro skill cap and each unit are very strong. just like how pain user describe idra in an interview, its not zerg strong, its idra imba. he will still crush ppl no matter he uses terran or toss...

p/s im on a very very bad losing streak today...lose alot to 4 gate all in...hate those ppl who 4 gate all in every match till diamond. puik!!! its easy to pull off hard to fend off...having a hard time defending it using terran, normally forces me to go 3 rax MM + turtle in base...cant slack off a tiny bit to tech up or trying to exxpo....need to keep pumping unit to match him =(

maybe u guys have some protips for me?
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qxc is studying as well atm so he cant play much...
his terran is one of the better creative ones (HSM vs idra, stalker sniping via drops, reaper pinning)...
i enjoy seeing him play for sure...

2 bunkers...
that's all u need...
no matter how gosu is his FF to cut u from repairing, the 2 bunker would decimate his army enuff for his 4gate to fail...
4 gate is one of the worst PvT build ever sleep.gif"
u can jz tech with 2 bunker and still roll hit (cloak banshee, tanks etc)...
the key is always the 2 bunkers which u can salvage later...

toss players are good: -
- tester (he jz beat nada earlier today)
- nexgenius (blizzcon champ, just beat nestea earlier today)
- inca
- socke
- huk (mlg high places)
- nony (pwned idra)
- nazgul (blunked idra)
- kiwikaki (high placement in tournaments, beat idra etc)
- sangho (A team in BW)
all of them have really high apm (tester's FF is so orgasmic in his game1 vs nada)

do note that some of these toss are BW legends as well...
toss is no doubt a good race, but toss is forced to the same old get robo for observer path or banshee roflstomped u (common in KR)...
anything else u go and ppl say u are all-in (read TL)...
blink is all-in, VR is all-in anything with no robo for obs is all-in...
in the end ur play is really predictable and u need super FF just to stay alive, single small mistake and u are dead which make toss really inconsistent...

as idra said it, toss dun have a high skill cap as you cant do very much with it...
easy to pick up (4gate lol) but hard at the high lvl (forcing robo)...
that's y they have a high winning rate in general but fail at the higher lvl tournaments (those with lots of pros of other races)

look at gsl3 toss count T.T

ps:
dun listen to painuser...
while i like his mech style late game in TvP he is someone who said that he wanna trade banshee for DTs? and then admit that he is wrong (sotg)
dun get why he wanna trade a melee ground unit with a flying 7 range unit sleep.gif"

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post Nov 19 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 19 2010, 12:30 AM)
another reason i like peinuser's play is his str8 forward style of play terran and of course stratbunker teaching me how to play. obvious reason as qxc, they teach me how to play, of course much love.

u missed white ra.

kiwikaki was good but his recent plays are meh...nony and nazgul both couldnt commit 100% oso of course sangho is aweshume

so true about the easy to pick up (4 gate) hard in high level.
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watching painuser's mass banshee + obs sniping had me worried so much lol...
ya how could i missed out grandpa toss!!!
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 19 2010, 12:43 AM)
owh u mean his recent video on youtube? thor + clock banshee. scan orbs and banshee will clean up others. so broken man...
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his game vs nony in MLG dallas...
i dun follow games on youtube...
mostly i follow tournaments (MLG, IEM, GSL, any tournament that day9 is casting etc)
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post Nov 19 2010, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 19 2010, 01:53 AM)
will check it out, downloaded mlg dallas replay pack from TL few days ago but i only watched a couple highly rated one...could u recommend me some good one to pick off also?
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since u are terran, jinro's game, select vs idra, painuser vs nony...
this is wut i feel the really awesome games are...
oh ya qxc vs huk...
mega drops!!!
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post Dec 2 2010, 05:40 PM

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