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daddoo
post Jun 19 2012, 01:43 PM

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Doing inverted hovering in the SIM is a piece a cake to me.
In real life, I can only do the tail in inverted hovering, still learning the nose in inverted and I have just crashed my 450 heli because of that last week.

Hehehe, was not getting enough sleep, windy condition and go for nose-in. Then suddenly the heli tilted a bit and I panic, slam the throttle to full positive mistakenly (I thought it is in up right hovering tongue.gif) and end up smacking quite a lot of parts including 2 set of servo gear. cry.gif

So, be prepared well mentally and physically when learning new stunts. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
Davidyeong
post Jun 19 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jun 19 2012, 01:43 PM)
Doing inverted hovering in the SIM is a piece a cake to me.
In real life, I can only do the tail in inverted hovering, still learning the nose in inverted and I have just crashed my 450 heli because of that last week.

Hehehe, was not getting enough sleep, windy condition and go for nose-in. Then suddenly the heli tilted a bit and I panic, slam the throttle to full positive mistakenly (I thought it is in up right hovering tongue.gif) and end up smacking quite a lot of parts including 2 set of servo gear.  cry.gif

So, be prepared well mentally and physically when learning new stunts.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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eh, i though we should learn nose in inverted 1st instead of tail in? i saw a forum last time they say inverted tail in is harder that inverted nose in.
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post Jun 19 2012, 02:23 PM

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Yes, some of my friends pointed out the same thing. I did not read much about this previously so I just thought that for inverted I should follow the up right hovering phases too. So now I am good in inverted tail-in but not the nose in rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
But with inverted tail-in, I can learn piro flip easily rclxms.gif
Davidyeong
post Jun 19 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Jun 19 2012, 02:23 PM)
Yes, some of my friends pointed out the same thing. I did not read much about this previously so I just thought that for inverted I should follow the up right hovering phases too. So now I am good in inverted tail-in but not the nose in  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
But with inverted tail-in, I can learn piro flip easily  rclxms.gif
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if the heli is flybarless with 3axis gyro, when the heli already inverted...the 3axis gyro will still balance the heli like normal? sry for too many stupid question cos i never inverted b4 and not ready to try yet.... sweat.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 03:34 PM

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What do you mean the gyro will still balance the heli like normal?

Did you mean if your heli is tilted 45 degrees then when you let your cyclic stick back to central (without any stick input) the 3-axis gyro will help you to level/balance the heli automatically so that it does not crash? I dont think it will if this is the case, the 3 axis gyro will just level/balance back to the last position from your input IF the heli drifted.

Hehehehe, care to share what 3 axis gyro is that? Walkera?


Added on June 19, 2012, 3:48 pmAnd then one advise here.
When you attempt to do inverted hover, don't think that you must do it for the whole battery pack. You should test and get the feel first. For example, start with a few full flips, then the coming one you just try to do a half flip and maintain the heli inverted for 1 or 2 seconds, flips it back. Repeat the same thing and gradually increase the time for inverted.

Remember to go high high every time. I was too confident from the last crash while doing nose in inverted, low half flip but then the heli never flip back and kiss the ground straight away ................

This post has been edited by daddoo: Jun 19 2012, 03:48 PM
Davidyeong
post Jun 19 2012, 03:58 PM

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i dont no how to explain...haha..but nvm la..once i try i thik will understand already.

Yes, is walkera V400D02...the worst 6ch heli (ppl say lah...hahah)
daddoo
post Jun 19 2012, 04:28 PM

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It should be just like the tail HH gyro. If you start with the tail pointing at 6 o'clock, then without any stick input and if the tail drift to 5 or 7, gyro will adjust back to 6. But if you move the tail (with stick input) to 3 o'clock, the gyro will not move the tail to go back to 6 when you free the stick back to middle, right after that if the tail drift to 2 or 4 the gyro will maintain the tail at 3.

The 3 axis gyro has the same concept but just that it works in the 3 dimensional space.
Don't worry too much or care too much with what heli you have lah, it's only a hobby and just enjoy to whatever you have. As long as you are happy with it, it will be fine.
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post Jun 19 2012, 05:45 PM

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oh..thatsmean 3gyro control the rudder, aileron and elevator to the original position if i didn't input anything right?

yup! u are right, i should enjoy what i have now.. thx daddoo! : )
daddoo
post Jun 20 2012, 12:25 PM

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It controls the last original position from your last input. Generally I would just say that the 3 axis gyro acts an "electronic flybar" instead of the conventional mechanical flybar, together with the tail control of course.


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post Jun 20 2012, 09:54 PM

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plus it need more effort/work from cyclic servos ... so EOL for those servos comes faster ... hehehe
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 20 2012, 09:54 PM)
plus it need more effort/work from cyclic servos ... so EOL for those servos comes faster ... hehehe
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EOL mean = end of life? hmm.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 09:03 AM

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CB180Z 3axis gyro not bad. it had tail control as well.. stable but still need skill to fly it.. learning =)

david: lolz End Of Life
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post Jun 21 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Davidyeong @ Jun 20 2012, 11:40 PM)
EOL mean = end of life?  hmm.gif
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yup .. when things have to work harder what do u think happens ? hehehe
but they expect u to crash & screw up the servos b4 EOL comes la .. hahahahaa
leroy87
post Jun 24 2012, 12:41 PM

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can a digital servo suddenly become hot, and then malfunctioned?

anyone know where can i get walkera servos cheap?

Thanks...
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post Jun 24 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(leroy87 @ Jun 24 2012, 12:41 PM)
can a digital servo suddenly become hot, and then malfunctioned?
YES

anyone know where can i get walkera servos cheap?
dunno .. hehehe

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check servos for binding .. excessive binding creates too much stress on the servo
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post Jun 24 2012, 10:20 PM

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excessive binding as in, keep on, pull out battery and put in and bind again the to the TX? maybe i guess thats where the problem comes from...
daddoo
post Jun 25 2012, 12:54 PM

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Not radio binding. It's mechanical binding, where the servo arm blocked by something and cant move further.
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post Jun 25 2012, 10:10 PM

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ohh okay okay thanks for the tips. will be extra careful..
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post Jul 2 2012, 11:27 PM

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I am looking for a shop that sells Lipo Battery with warranty since the new one I bought just charges to 8.8V when it should be 11.1 V

Thank you
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:08 AM

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before buuy next time if the shop got the gadget to test the volt, let him show u frst before you buy. some already discharge. not healthy battery

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