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post Nov 24 2010, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Nov 24 2010, 10:56 AM)
IF you read carefully and understand about the EULA, you should have know that Kespa is actually on the fault, I mean LEGAL FAULT.

The LAN capabilities? I support all the way up, to all the games. Seriously, giving you guys a LAN will only give excuses for you to pirate it out and play as a Gay-ers. *Note : I do not mean to point at your personally. I'm pointing at those who does.

About the segmented, well who cares. All the games does that todays. As long as they don't release all 3 chapter together and asking end users to pay RM600-700 in one shot. I know RM200+ games is a bit expensive, but given time, 6 months to 1 year after the release and Blizzard release the 2nd chapter, you could able to save up your pocket money for the game. Yes? No? RM1 per day and half year you get yourself around there.
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thats even assuming blizz releases heart of the swarm in a year wwwwwwwwwwww
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post Nov 24 2010, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 24 2010, 11:42 AM)
I own a PS3 but i don't really buy all the games. I mostly play FPS shooters online like Modern Warfare 2 and KZ2. Thats mainly because I think their multiplayer features are worth the money...it's amazing how people lamented the fact gamers who play pirated games are GAYERS and all that but the fact is who wants to pay RM150 to play a video game knowing that u can play the same shit in your PC for RM5? Im not saying we should support piracy but this is just a irrefutable and undeniable fact of life. If there is a cheaper alternative to get the stuff you want, people will definitely take that route. NOt to mention the demographic of gamers are students and half broke college kids. You think all gamers have the financial horsepower of working class ppl? Buying Ori games doesnt make one feel superior than people who play pirated games. 

Same concept, ask yourself if Activision launches Modern Warfare 2 in two seperate discs, a SWAT campaign and a terrorist campaign with same online multiplayer features, will you still buy it? for RM150 each?
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orly? i sure as hell feel superior than you for supporting the developers over the games i love. and i certainly feel superior when my spoiler-equipped thor come trampling on your god damn base in all its glory. (and horror! -mengsk)
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post Nov 24 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 24 2010, 11:56 AM)
There you go. We do share the same view here. The only difference between you and me now is you supported the greed and i didn't. Fair enough.

Remember, I don't chastise Starcraft 2 players but Blizzard. Hate it when people doesn't involved in a debate openly in a more mature way.
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like you're very mature in:

- potentially supporting piracy

- condemning millions of fans for supporting the game/dev they love (greed huh)

- does not understand the EULA/law/copyright and yet:

- condemns blizzard for exercising their own rights when it has been violated

- still harping on an age old beaten to death argument (more like excuse. read: LAN for sc2) while ignoring the fact that it is no longer needed (for the most part, you're not taking part in huge tournaments involving thousands of dollars now are you?)
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post Nov 24 2010, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 24 2010, 12:28 PM)
Oh, so you are the dude who quotes Mengsk, Thors and shit earlier as your argument. end of conversation & not bothered. lunchtime.
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because you got beaten? sure as hell only proven my 2nd point further.

Added on November 24, 2010, 12:46 pm
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Nov 24 2010, 12:34 PM)
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I demand my LAN, cause bodoh.net 0.2 is still a pile of lousy crap and I can't stand looking at the prehistoric design and utter delay I get when I demand serious games  doh.gif
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as we've been through this: don't play then. no one is forcing you to.

and if your "prehistoric design" is referring to the screenshot, i would highly suggest upgrading from a prehistoric computer. and of course, my last point.

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post Nov 24 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(w3er @ Nov 24 2010, 12:50 PM)
I don't really care what the fuss with kespa and blizzard, cause it doesn't affect me 1 bit, but I think blizzard have the legal rights to sue.

And I think sc2 is worth every pennies spent, cause of blizzard commitment and endless support for their game even after many years of launching them

Blizzard gave us new patches, so we can have more balance gameplay, organize big tournament, new features and updates, bug fix, and many new custom maps. And blizzard even give us a new south east asia regional server so we can have a more faster connection.

Of the many games that I've bought, I say I don't regret paying rm 200+ for this game, even the single player campaign is worth more than that.
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well about that... lol
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post Nov 24 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Nov 24 2010, 12:52 PM)
I didn't pay RM220 for nothing when they promised improvements to that retarded system for almost half a year and nothing has been done. Why can't they even make simple improvements like chat channels and a faster interface. I have a PC more then capable to run starcraft 2 on medium to high, its just that all the spit and shine means nothing to a brood war player like me and therefore I did not enable it.
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1) they've promised and will implement the features eventually (just so you know, things they promised back in sc1/bw days took longer to come to reality than compared to sc2. of course, removing chat channels seemed (and is in fact at least imho) like a step back and considering the never ending high expectation towards blizzard, it is entirely understandable on your post/previous postings. however as i've said and will say again: if it really makes you THAT miserable, you can opt to not play.

2) then dont* enable those spit and shine. stick all low and make your sc2 look like sc1.

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lol left a word out w

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post Nov 24 2010, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Nov 24 2010, 01:23 PM)
Can't say they don't bother about making improvements based on their track record, but its taking so long for simple improvements which are already in their previous games, maybe they decided to improve on the chat channel functionality?
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heres the thing though: how do you know for certain, that its all SIMPLE improvements? chat channels yeah, but region lock/server etc may not be as easy as you thing when blizzard's current goal is to have a unified/standard platform for all their current and future games.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 24 2010, 02:41 PM)
if so why blizzard is able to take legal action on kespa?
if kespa is clean and right, why blizzard is able to file a case against them?

Added on November 24, 2010, 2:42 pm

any1 serious about sc2 competitively would be playing at "all low, effects n textures to ultra"
if u are serious enough u would know why for such settings...
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i just edited my post. point being: it wasn't anything to b**** about. yet hes just b****ing about it on and on.
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post Nov 24 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(mic1981 @ Nov 24 2010, 02:52 PM)
But Kespa overcome it, and asking the GOMtv to paid another broadcast fees.  rclxub.gif
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and thats why blizzard sueing them lorh rclxms.gif

Added on November 24, 2010, 3:25 pm
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Nov 24 2010, 03:06 PM)
I haven't played for weeks simply due to the fact that battle.net 2.0 disconnects my ladder games or the opponent gets disconnected for fun, and I've never had this problem in any other ori game, heck even flying spaghetti monster can do better than that.
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so if you dont play, you happy, and dont b**** about something thats being beaten to death, we happy too, yes?

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post Nov 24 2010, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Nov 24 2010, 03:28 PM)
I want to play, you moron and Blizzard is giving me shit quality for the money I saved up, considering you spent thousands on WoW, you wouldn't give a damn anyway.
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ohhhhh so now I am giving you shit quality for your money you saved up? cry more will you?

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steam is fine ok! you get capitalist loli (and a fairy!) from it!

Added on November 24, 2010, 4:17 pm
QUOTE(dishwasher @ Nov 24 2010, 03:40 PM)
Well, if he paid for the game and can't play, he does have a right to b****. The only thing is, he's doing it here, which the last I checked, wasn't the Bnet forums, and a lot of his b****ing is about wanting the good ole days of KeSPA and BW back.

Added on November 24, 2010, 3:42 pm
Exactly my point. We all know how badly Streamyx sucks. Pointing the finger at Blizzard and IAH at the first signs of having problems connecting is, on the whole, kinda (pardon me) stupid.
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you're the cancer thats going to kill this thread. tsk tsk

Added on November 24, 2010, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Nov 24 2010, 03:44 PM)
The problem is, I'm not using streamyx.

I've been doing programming for a long time and I understand that, but they have a big big team to solve it mah. I've got a few friends planning to sell their their accounts due to disconnections already.
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why aint that your problem?
fact: streamyx, while being a shitty ass ISP, is still malaysia's best hard wired landline isp (for the consumer anyways, unless you got private corporate lines lolloolol)

if you're not even using that, QQ?

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post Nov 24 2010, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Nov 24 2010, 04:39 PM)
f*** you Quaz. Lets play Raynor's party and the Roach snake thingy tonight lololol its damn fun.
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i think i played raynor's party. i faild that wwwww
maybe can try roach snake lol

and yes, this is that future (for 'casuals' anyways lol), friggin "ums"
(i've got my zerg hunter tank/healer(jesus balls playing healer in sg hotel wifi ROFL!)/dps character slots filled LOL)

Added on November 24, 2010, 4:57 pm
QUOTE(dishwasher @ Nov 24 2010, 04:51 PM)
Blizz was smart. Bnet was probably the first gaming network that was freely provided by the game's own developers. Well maybe not the first, but it was definitely the first big, well known one. Sure beats Gamespy.

Imagine if Westwood had offered a similar service. Things might be a whole lot different now.
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im not sure if they were the first or not, but total annihilation (the ancestor of supreme commander) had the same service (called boneyard IINM?)

heres the biggest difference of TA vs SC1 back then regardless which is more fun (for the record anyways, i enjoyed TA more generally, for melee combat anyways):

- SC1 can be played on something like my old 200mhz pentium pro that has 96MB EDO RAM (who still remembers these specs? w)
8 player ffa BGH etc, 200 food carrier/BC/hydra/muta spams etc. no problem

- TA will lag if the game drags beyond a 10-20min rush, and thats on 1v1, anything beyond that and/or timeframe, will be an utter lagfest of either machine, or connection (lol spam bootscreens cuz someone [like me] couldnt afford/own a decent 3D gaming machine [at that time anyways])

then of course theres the korean esports phenomenon later on.
eventually TA died off while sc1 still remained strong even till this very day after 12 years.

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post Nov 24 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(cupmee2nd @ Nov 24 2010, 05:06 PM)
Warcraft 3 is very much alive today with custom maps. I played melee game on flying paste monster and pwn 99% of the user there. Which mean they only play custom maps.

SC2 need to focus on DotA, need to try and give dotard a reason to buy.. Oh.. wait why will Dotard buy a game lol.
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well, they are releasing an official dota. despite the presence of SOTIS. so yea. (from the korean reports, looks ok, i guess.)
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post Nov 24 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(cupmee2nd @ Nov 24 2010, 05:24 PM)
My dotard friend say SOTIS sucks... He was trying sc2 out and only played that game.. lol

Most Malaysia gamers are pc, so you think they will be willing to buy sc2 if ice frog stop making Dota for war3 and say to buy my Dota2 or play Dota on sc2.

I dunno what am I thinking now, must be the 3 hours of sleep last night..
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well it does suck. simply cuz of the horrible patching and unit collision etc. and of course, trying to implement rpg'ish game over a rts that isnt native to that. and being new at it (zerg hunter for example, is in a way, leap and bounds better especially when you consider the improvement since beta/map release until this very day)

as for icefrog, he valve ady.
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post Nov 24 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(cupmee2nd @ Nov 24 2010, 05:27 PM)
That why you think Dotard going to buy DotA2?
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i dont think it will even be called dota, and if it isnt dota, i doubt they'd buy. so idunnolol

oh and... dotards buy stuff?
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post Nov 24 2010, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(cupmee2nd @ Nov 24 2010, 05:35 PM)
Valve going or trying to copyright Dota2 and Dota3 right?
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no idea on that lol. but considering's blizzard's eula on maps, i think it'd be hard. that said, i believe blizz/valve are on good terms with each other and im sure they would work something out. i remember the days where HL2 were delayed till no end cuz fatty gabe was busy playing WoW wwwwwwww
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Nov 24 2010, 06:05 PM)
LOL, which server was it that the entire Valve company played on? Was it Gorgonash? I remember my friend was on good terms with a bunch of them and one day they were like 'Oh did you know? We're actually Valve?'
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ah that i didn't knew. never really investigated. but it was posted all around news/gaming sites etc. (obviously the servers/toons werent revealed LOL!)
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post Nov 24 2010, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Nov 24 2010, 06:35 PM)
sc2 will be bigger but anti piracy will make it not that popular in third world countries like malaysia. but still, with strict anti-piracy and un friendly surface, they manage to sell like hotcakes. most of us here bought the ori game too =)

nice that dotards are not in the community to pollute pirate-mindset. *someone said, it will be stupid to pay rm220 if you can get the same thing for rm5* no its not stupid.

and to kespa, gtfo, kespa did not cr8 sc:bw, without blizzard, theres no kespa. without kespa, there will be still starcraft. its stupid for kespa to collect money for broadcasting right, and ppl start to flame blizzard for collecting broadcasting right? kespa was the one collecting broadcasting right for years, without consent from blizzard.
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mod baru advised, so ya lol.
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post Nov 25 2010, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(mic1981 @ Nov 25 2010, 12:35 PM)
Dota is a good game but not great. The game balancing is count on icefrog only, and too much patches and new heroes release every few month make it hard to stable and China's players is killing the game, damm bored to watch their replay.  whistling.gif

Don't like to watch sc1 and wc3 left a few pro players to winning all competition.

Sc2 save my world notworthy.gif !

Added on November 25, 2010, 12:49 pmis not fair to compare Sc2 with SCBW. SCBW take years to stable the game. Sc2 still have 2 expansion & countless of patches to go. Could you remember any good replay at the 1st year of sc1 released? (or Any good player? Grrr?) Can you remember the 1st MSL Champion? (I heard the competition was held at a Cybercafe).

Yes, SC2 don't have Jaedong kind of player yet. Every Legend take time to accomplish, so PLEASE GIVE SC2 & Blizzard Some TIME!!!
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sc1 took 12 years to be what it is today. they expect sc2 to achieve the same, if not more within 12 days i suppose.
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tester faild to qualify, i am disappoint.
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post Nov 25 2010, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 25 2010, 07:37 PM)
he was 3rd in GOM Allstar...
iRhappy for him...
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what really? VOD still need to pay or what? lol. i didnt tengok that assuming he faild agen or something lol
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