to each his own - dont worry about my nick - just a nick - let everyone rant and rave all they want. All I can say is to put your money where your mouth is - and buy what your heart desires. Trying to steer ppl to follow your opinionated comments to the point of being childish and vulgar, really speaks volumes for your mentality and upbringing. So if you are an adult, behave like an adult. Otherwise you are just a kid trying to wear a big hat trying to hide behind the internet. Join some forums - and ask owners what their experiences are. Then find out more - from crash tests in Youtube, pictures and crashes dont lie. Then go and test drive to your hearts content. I did my homework. I drove cars from Germany, to Japanese, from my 25 years of driving different cars, you go from the young and flashy, to executive sedans to practical compact 2nd cars, buy whatever suits your fancy. My 2 cents.

Toyota and Honda best of the cars la - ok now that I out these two brands here in this thread - welcome all those fanboys from Vios to Altis, City to Civic and Accord - hell, lets ask the Hyundai boys too - and not forgetting - the VW and also Benz and also BMW, so let the floodgates open. Don't understand all these protective comments - just buy what you like - its your money (or maybe parents money, maybe BF/GF money, Sugar Daddy or Sugar Mummy, who cares) as long as the car brings a smile to your face, thats what counts..........tired already reading this thread. MOD, please help..........

me no toyota owner - but a fast and furious BMW Z4 - silver and you can see me in Mutiara Damansara - toyotarave is my nick becos I have used it since my younger days when I drove the DX, GL, Laser S, Knight, Saga, Waja, MR2, Supra, then moved on to Contis, BMW 318i, then Jeep Cherokee, Opel Frontera, Escape and came back to Camry, then M3 LE, now guess what - an 1.6 SX Forte which I occasionally share with my friend - why? partly becos of the look, but the no brainer for me - I like its gunmetal interior, and the road tax - only RM90 per year -

Hey - why no more squabbling? Just waiting for someone to compare with my barebone Z4, cannot compare with other brands la - so boring and bare.........