You beat me to this post. I am suprised that Proton 2.0 did not offer Traction control and at least 6 airbags given that it enjoys local protection. I don't see what is the point of having auto rain and light sensor. To me the best buy is the 1.8 Inspira.

Forte is wider than the Inspira but shorter. I suppose looks is a subjective area.

At the end of the day it is all about practicality. Which car can offer the best value for the money as well as to get you from point a to point b. The talk about how powerful the civic is compared to the forte in real life has no use. How often do you drag race from the traffic lights in KL? To me the most important thing is that the car has sufficient grunt to overtake in the North South highway while doing 110 for emergency purposes. Just like the arguments on which suspension is superior. On a normal everyday driving you are not hurtling around like in a race track.

At the end of the day you want a car that is smooth and quiet and is able to absorb the bumps. Just like my old Waja campro, the handling is good but if you ever go over a bump it has this crackling sound and it is harsh. The current 2.0 forte gives a better feel over road bumps but I would dare say that road holding isnt too far off from the Waja.

To me the economics is simple. If you benchmark a car like the BMW 3 series and even if the Forte delivers 80% of that feeling and feature found on the BMW, I would conclude that my money is well spent. Again the comparison of features like the magnesium paddle shift, how often would you use it? As someone said after a while you just get bored with it.

For me it is the curtain airbags in the Forte. No doubt I hope to never use it but it is there and this feature is not found in any cars below RM100k.

So it makes all the arguments about torsion beams totally irrelevant. I don't have a desire to meet fate or to test my car to its limits.

Really if performance is that important go get yourself a real performance car.

To compare a Civic and Forte or even the Inspira is like little school boys comparing the length of their dicks. One little boy's d*** may be slightly longer than the others and it gives him the right to gloat about it but in reality there are bigger dicks in this world.

To imply that Forte fans feel that we need to justify our car just because your civics or hondas has a better handling misses the point. In real world the trick is to find which car has been packaged to give you the best value for money and without doubt the 1.8 Inspira is a very good bet.

I don't argue with you about the handlings but I think that your suggestion here about "suffocated" is extreme. Are you trying to say that the Forte gives you motion sickness?

I have taken my family on long distance they never felt that the car gives them motion sickness. It is a balance between handling and comfort. I am sure no car manufacturer would deliberately put in a suspension system that is not safe.

Quite honestly I thing value for money is in the Inspira 1.8. You get a slighltly bigger engine with CVVT technology. Even as a Forte owner I would go for the 1.8 Inspira. Proton to some extent made a tactical mistake as the equipment between the 1.8 and 2.0 Inspira is not that great.