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panasonic88
post Nov 15 2010, 12:46 PM, updated 7y ago
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Firstly, congratulations on the new subforum.

Recently a friend posted a video about Water Birth on facebook.



I feel it is so amazed! Did a quick check on some facts, and get to know that:-

- Water birth is a positive experience
- It aids relaxation
- Reduces the need for pain relief
- Initial research suggests that it is just as safe for both mother and baby as labouring on land

Waterbirths are more common in country like UK & Canada, and have been widely accepted in mainstream medical circles for many years.

For Malaysia, waterbirths are still a novelty and only available in two hospitals, Island Hospital in Penang and Pantai Medical Centre in Bangsar, Kuala Lumpur - both are private facilities.

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I'd like to hear & get to expose more about water birth experience. Kindly do share. smile.gif
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post Nov 15 2010, 04:54 PM
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Just wondering, when the baby is coming out of the vagina, and inside the water, wouldn't the baby drown? A silly question.
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:19 PM
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That's what popped in my mind too, did a quick search,

Is a water birth safe? Could a baby drown?

Your baby will no more drown in a water birth than in will drown in utero. Your baby lives in water and should clear its air passages and breathe when two things happen: When the cord is cut, the flow of oxygen from the placenta is stopped; and when the cold air hits, it triggers the first breath.

When the baby takes in its first lung full of air, usually within the first minute after being fully born, it causes a chain reaction that closes the different vessels in the heart and lungs and enables the baby to become a breather.

Answered by Shari Daniels, L.M., C.P.M., M.S. Ed.
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:25 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Really something different here.
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post Nov 16 2010, 11:03 AM
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just my cent la.. since the mother will be giving birth in the water, she wont be sitting or lying on bed rite? then, is the mother is comfort enough?
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post Nov 16 2010, 11:09 AM
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Awesomeeeeeee....gonna share with my preggie wifey!
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post Nov 16 2010, 11:16 AM
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Actually lying in bed during labour is more uncomfortable since the mother is strapped to the CTG machine, drip, blood pressure thingy etc. When I was about to to deliver, all I wanted to do was stand up and squat down.
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post Nov 16 2010, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(ahsia80 @ Nov 16 2010, 11:09 AM)
Awesomeeeeeee....gonna share with my preggie wifey!
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Do share with us if you & your wifey happen to go check out the pricing at those mentioned hospital tongue.gif Am curious to know as well.


QUOTE(Syd G @ Nov 16 2010, 11:16 AM)
Actually lying in bed during labour is more uncomfortable since the mother is strapped to the CTG machine, drip, blood pressure thingy etc. When I was about to to deliver, all I wanted to do was stand up and squat down.
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Thanks for sharing. notworthy.gif

On the youtube video posted above, the mother's back was leaning against the water tub, making herself comfortable, the leaning position is like you are enjoying a jaccuzi bath I guess tongue.gif I think she used her hips strength alot. She looks experience, isn't she! Probably not the first child. And the delivery process was being done in less than 5 minutes! ohmy.gif
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post Nov 16 2010, 11:53 AM
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@panasonic88
Real waterbirth (at home) is in a tub, where the mom squats/kneel on all 4 to give birth.

Something like this (warning: nekkid person) - http://www.riteofpassagedoulas.com/graphics/water_birth.jpg
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post Nov 16 2010, 12:37 PM
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@Syd G

The photo/link is taking forever to load unsure.gif

I searched through water birth videos from youtube, surprisingly all of them are giving birth in their own house! Is that safe??

Just curious. Would you opt for this delivery method for your next born baby?
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post Nov 16 2010, 06:19 PM
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We should not have water birth at home without the presence of a medical professional or a midwife.

I saw this waterbirth in my parenting class too and found that it is amazing like many of you. But too bad, only available in selected hospital.

We are expecting our first child in a week++.
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Nov 16 2010, 06:19 PM)
We should not have water birth at home without the presence of a medical professional or a midwife.

I saw this waterbirth in my parenting class too and found that it is amazing like many of you. But too bad, only available in selected hospital.

We are expecting our first child in a week++.
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I wonder how much would be the cost like.

Somewhere in between natural birth & C-Sec?
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post Nov 18 2010, 01:24 PM
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If you can read Malay, do read my friend's waterbirth experience in the US : http://melorr.blogspot.com/2010/08/ordinary-miracle.html

Costs cheaper than hospital birth. Over there normal hospital birth is around 4-5k, C-sec 8k-sky.

Waterbirth 1k onli.
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 18 2010, 12:22 PM)
I wonder how much would be the cost like.

Somewhere in between natural birth & C-Sec?
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I have no idea as I'm curious to know too.
Syd G posted 1k in USA. In Malaysia, may be higher price.
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post Nov 21 2010, 06:48 PM
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The rate i get from Island Hospital website:
Normal Delivery (3 days 2 nights)
* Single Room - RM 3,900.00
* 2 Bedded Standard - RM 2,600.00

Caesarian (Elective) Delivery (4 days 3 nights)
* Single Room - RM 7,000.00
* 2 Bedded Standard - RM 5,300.00

Water Baby Delivery (3 days 2 nights)
* Single Room - Estimated at RM 6,000.00

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post Nov 22 2010, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(jovyn @ Nov 21 2010, 06:48 PM)
The rate i get from Island Hospital website:
Normal Delivery (3 days 2 nights)
    * Single Room - RM 3,900.00
    * 2 Bedded Standard - RM 2,600.00

Caesarian (Elective) Delivery (4 days 3 nights)
    * Single Room - RM 7,000.00
    * 2 Bedded Standard - RM 5,300.00

Water Baby Delivery (3 days 2 nights)
    * Single Room - Estimated at RM 6,000.00
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Appreciate the findings, jovyn notworthy.gif

So the price is between normal delivery & C-Sec. Hmm.
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post Nov 23 2010, 10:26 AM
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Actually heard from my maid, waterbirth is normal in kampung area. They give birth in the river....... :S
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post Nov 23 2010, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Escudo @ Nov 23 2010, 10:26 AM)
Actually heard from my maid, waterbirth is normal in kampung area. They give birth in the river....... :S
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River? Oh my...!

Is the water in the river clean?? What if infected by germs/bacteria? That's dangerous to the mother ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 22 2010, 10:25 AM)
Appreciate the findings, jovyn  notworthy.gif

So the price is between normal delivery & C-Sec. Hmm.
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seem, not cheap...sweat.gif
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post Nov 24 2010, 05:04 PM
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panasonic: I dunno leh..., come to think of it, they bathe, wash, do big/small biz also by the river one mah.... So no surprised birth there also, i supposed?

Just like the older days when there was no hospitals, it's normal to give birth at home (which is now considered as extra ordinary if you do), I think it's a normal thing for them to give birth in river?
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 16 2010, 12:37 PM)
@Syd G

The photo/link is taking forever to load unsure.gif

I searched through water birth videos from youtube, surprisingly all of them are giving birth in their own house! Is that safe??

Just curious. Would you opt for this delivery method for your next born baby?
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It is better to have someone that can provide aid standby in the house if something does not go according to the plan.
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:28 AM
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question, i thought after giving birth can't shower etc...so will this waterbirth count too?
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(zephyros @ Nov 30 2010, 09:28 AM)
question, i thought after giving birth can't shower etc...so will this waterbirth count too?
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that one only chinese pantang. i showered the next day before going out of hospital biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zephyros @ Nov 30 2010, 09:28 AM)
question, i thought after giving birth can't shower etc...so will this waterbirth count too?
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What is the consequence if the mother do not adhere this "pantang"?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Nov 30 2010, 01:25 PM)
What is the consequence if the mother do not adhere this "pantang"?
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A very noisy mother-in-law ...
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Nov 30 2010, 01:32 PM)
A very noisy mother-in-law ...
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

What to do? Take the bath when she is not in lo. tongue.gif
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i fully support water birth. read a lot about it where it's more like a natural way of birthing.

will definitely go for water birth in the future. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Dec 1 2010, 12:30 PM)
i fully support water birth. read a lot about it where it's more like a natural way of birthing.

will definitely go for water birth in the future. tongue.gif
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it is not so painful right compared to the conventional way of giving birth?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 1 2010, 01:47 PM)
it is not so painful right compared to the conventional way of giving birth?
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that and also, i read that some women can get an orgasm with water birth. blush.gif
i think last week or something, the star came out with an article about gentle birthing ways, one of them was water birth.
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Added on December 1, 2010, 5:56 pm
QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Dec 1 2010, 05:14 PM)
that and also, i read that some women can get an orgasm with water birth.  blush.gif
i think last week or something, the star came out with an article about gentle birthing ways, one of them was water birth.
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I see. A good way for the husbands to persuade their wives to have more kids...

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Ohh my...this is something totally new for me. The mummy in the video looks reeeeaally calm lor. And comfortable! Like no signs of pain/stuggle also. I wonder if it hurts at all? And there's no blood when her bb is out? And yess, delivery was so quick, wow!
Will definitely keep this in mind and opt for water birth in the future. Thanks for sharing this! blush.gif

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pana jiejie getting ready for next phase of life?
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Nov 30 2010, 09:59 AM)
that one only chinese pantang. i showered the next day before going out of hospital biggrin.gif
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Some of my friends n relatives still follow the pantang. At most also wipe with hot wet towel. My wife bath every few days, with some water boiled together with some plants. Although Im not a believer, just follow your own feel. Everyone have their own level of perception.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Dec 3 2010, 11:31 PM)
Some of my friends n relatives still follow the pantang. At most also wipe with hot wet towel. My wife bath every few days, with some water boiled together with some plants. Although Im not a believer, just follow your own feel. Everyone have their own level of perception.
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I'm not Chinese so I wasnt made to adhere it wink.gif

I did follow a lot of Malay rituals such as bengkung, pilis, param, tungku, ganggang, air kunyit, urut etc. (Google is your best friend). Most of them I did not because I believed in them - but just to be kind to my mother who does.
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I support water birth as well... In my opinion, it is one of the natural way of delivering a baby... Would like to experience this when the time comes... smile.gif
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Anyone can share which hosp offering water birth procedure?

Beside only in two private hospitals (Island Hospital in Penang and Pantai Medical Centre in Bangsar, Kuala Lumpur).

Get more info from http://www.babycenter.com.my/pregnancy/lab...rth/waterbirth/

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hi all. me n wifey planning for water birth for our first child due this march. need to confirm only pantai bangsar has the facilities in KL? no other hospitals?
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um...just wondering do patients have to be naked as well for water birth in Malaysia?
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i have read it on babycenter website.
unfortunately i don't think msia have this kind of facility right ?
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QUOTE(StrawberryGirL @ Jan 5 2012, 04:13 PM)
i have read it on babycenter website.
unfortunately i don't think msia have this kind of facility right ?
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ada, the one i know is in Pantai Bangsar. i've read Dr Harlina's blog (she is the wife of our angkasawan Sheikh Muzzafar). She wrote about her waterbirth experience in Pantai Bangsar.

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why i dont see any blood?
just curious, normall it'll spill lots of blood, isnt it
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why i dont see any blood?
just curious, normall it'll spill lots of blood, isnt it


Actually there usually isn't that much blood during delivery. Mostly amniotic water and mucus ( whitish) .

There will only be bleeding IF there is a tear/koyak or if there is an episiotomy.... or during cesarean coz they cut through your skin.
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the women like got to adjust her posture by herself in the water while delivering the baby sad.gif
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water birth is so popular in the west, that they can do it at home......not sure how and when, it can be done at home in Malaysia
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Just read this greaaaat article about a home water birth and thought of sharing it with you all - http://www.theblueswirl.com/2012/06/homebi...-alexander.html. Enjoy! biggrin.gif
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I think no chinese will try it...as chinese are prohibited from water after giving birth to avoid masuk ANGIN (whatever that means)


Added on June 16, 2012, 5:27 pmJust watched the video posted by TS blink.gif

I am a bit skeptical, no one is supporting the vagina when the baby's head coming out, w/out support it will usually cause tears (might be big one which can lead to bleeding+++)...

No CTG (cardiotocography) was applied during labor. Means there's no monitoring of baby's heart beat and progress in the process of labor...? Dangerous...

And the delivery seems too effortless, how many babies had this mom delivered? I dont think she is a first timer...

I am still learning, anyone knows more about the water birth, please enlighten me, thnks laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Escudo @ Nov 23 2010, 06:26 AM)
Actually heard from my maid, waterbirth is normal in kampung area. They give birth in the river....... :S
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Oh no, please don't do that...we dont know what is in the river nowadays, radioactive waste? leptospirosis? I am pretty sure that the baby will need admission in hospital for risk of sepsis...poor baby rclxub.gif

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My wife just gave birth on 10th in Pantai hospital in their birth pool. Combined with hypno birthing, it was a good labour, completely natural.
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hi fried beef..

good to hear that..

mind to share normal or ceaser? how much do it cost est?

my wife due in next 1 month..earger to try this tho,..
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Normal. Ceaser is mostly unnecessary in many cases unless total emergency. Cost I think you better check with them but I think it's 6-8k
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QUOTE(friedbeef @ Jun 17 2012, 08:57 AM)
My wife just gave birth on 10th in Pantai hospital in their birth pool.  Combined with hypno birthing, it was a good labour, completely natural.
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Hi, first of all, congrats ya.. smile.gif

Mind to share what's the total cost for water birthing?
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QUOTE(friedbeef @ Jun 17 2012, 04:57 AM)
My wife just gave birth on 10th in Pantai hospital in their birth pool.  Combined with hypno birthing, it was a good labour, completely natural.
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Congrats on new arrival of baby!

Can u give more details on the process of water birth that your wifey underwent? It's very interesting laugh.gif









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@rachel I think it was 6-8k..don't recall the exact itemised breakdown...or you could just do it at home. Lots of home birth support groups around.

@catherine check out hypno birthing classes ...experience is something like that...make every surge an effective one, and don't push but breathe out the baby...

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cool! Hypno birthing, I am gonna check it out definitely smile.gif
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QUOTE(friedbeef @ Jun 18 2012, 06:56 AM)
@rachel I think it was 6-8k..don't recall the exact itemised breakdown...or you could just do it at home. Lots of home birth support groups around.

@catherine check out hypno birthing classes ...experience is something like that...make every surge an effective one, and don't push but breathe out the baby...
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Thanks friedbeef.. smile.gif
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strych9jr
post Jun 26 2012, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(friedbeef @ Jun 17 2012, 08:57 AM)
My wife just gave birth on 10th in Pantai hospital in their birth pool.  Combined with hypno birthing, it was a good labour, completely natural.
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Congrat! may I ask if your wife had a episotomy? or she has a tear when giving birth underwater? who are the doctor who able to do this water birth procedure?
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apmahira
post Jul 13 2012, 12:05 AM
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hehehehe scary huh


Added on July 13, 2012, 12:06 amhuh huh

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post Aug 27 2012, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(jovyn @ Nov 21 2010, 06:48 PM)
Water Baby Delivery (3 days 2 nights)
    * Single Room - Estimated at RM 6,000.00
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I wonder why water birthing need to take 3 days 2 nights? is this a need? or this is in package?
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