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post Nov 14 2010, 03:02 AM, updated 16y ago

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as title. r1 or r2 games come almost exclusively from import.so,does the tulin sticker carry any weight?
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post Nov 14 2010, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Nov 14 2010, 04:09 AM)
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post Nov 14 2010, 08:35 AM

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it matters to dealers. not us.
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post Nov 14 2010, 10:05 AM

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if go thru our country's 'org tengah'...they the one put stickers and hopefully just that
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sadly the dealers have to take precedence in this. As much as its bullshit.

Blame the government.
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can you say, middle money
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actually..i'm former KPDNKK staff...for me it's really stupid to put tulin sticker on those game especially ps3 game...its already original...they just want a small amount of money from us...
even i hated KPDNKK staff that take for granted...go to game shop...asking for free bag for laptop..as exchanged they will not rush his shop and take all pirated game...but what really happened...they still rush that shop and took everything consider pirated disc...
we want to buy ori or not....its consumer rights....i don't want spend my money to buy rm 39.90 for ori dvd..better i buy rm 7.00 pirate dvd
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Basically, it is to prove that the product is original and not pirated. shocking.gif

The importers also need to pay for the sticker. I think it's RM0.20 per sticker. Theoretically, each sticker has a specific id that must match a reference number on a specific game disc. For example, sticker A001 must match game A001. If sticker A001 is stuck on game A002, then the authorities can send in their troops and rape and pillage the shop. Most of the time, they don't follow the regulations strictly. Only when someone files an official complaint and they have to do their "job".


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QUOTE(ooj @ Nov 14 2010, 02:18 PM)
Basically, it is to prove that the product is original and not pirated.  shocking.gif

The importers also need to pay for the sticker. I think it's RM0.20 per sticker. Theoretically, each sticker has a specific id that must match a reference number on a specific game disc. For example, sticker A001 must match game A001. If sticker A001 is stuck on game A002, then the authorities can send in their troops and rape and pillage the shop. Most of the time, they don't follow the regulations strictly. Only when someone files an official complaint and they have to do their "job".
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yeah thats right...but ori sticker on game blink.gif shocking.gif ...that's stupid coz we know you want to play online...we have to buy ori disc....just some people in there never asking from us about this matter

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QUOTE(ooj @ Nov 14 2010, 02:18 PM)
Basically, it is to prove that the product is original and not pirated.  shocking.gif

The importers also need to pay for the sticker. I think it's RM0.20 per sticker. Theoretically, each sticker has a specific id that must match a reference number on a specific game disc. For example, sticker A001 must match game A001. If sticker A001 is stuck on game A002, then the authorities can send in their troops and rape and pillage the shop. Most of the time, they don't follow the regulations strictly. Only when someone files an official complaint and they have to do their "job".
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Costs 0.20 but some sellers mark up the price by Rm5? Lol what a way...
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Nov 14 2010, 02:13 PM)
actually..i'm former KPDNKK staff...for me it's really stupid to put tulin sticker on those game especially ps3 game...its already original...they just want a small amount of money from us...
even i hated KPDNKK staff that take for granted...go to game shop...asking for free bag for laptop..as exchanged they will not rush his shop and take all pirated game...but what really happened...they still rush that shop and took everything consider pirated disc...
we want to buy ori or not....its consumer rights....i don't want spend my money to buy rm 39.90 for ori dvd..better i buy rm 7.00 pirate dvd
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Nov 14 2010, 02:27 PM)
yeah thats right...but ori sticker on game blink.gif  shocking.gif ...that's stupid coz we know you want to play online...we have to buy ori disc....just some people in there never asking from us about this matter
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that the key word...'we know' but 'they dont know' (or to put it harshly, they dont give a damn)

and the sad thing is...all this crappy game tulen sticker stuff issue were raised by 1 dealer itself to KPDNKK. well who can blame them since they get the right to distribute certain game company's games and people buy all the games from importers which sell cheaper than them and KPDNKK come to the scene to take advantage of the situation. i know the story by one of the dealers in here who is pissed off about this



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keep the stickers to pc games please whistling.gif
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there was once when I visited Ivan, he said he cant sell PSS3 games that time. I asked him why, he replied back, no TULEN sticker, will be confiscated.

ONLY IN MALAYSIA.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Nov 14 2010, 07:06 PM)
there was once when I visited Ivan, he said  he cant sell PSS3 games that time. I asked  him why, he replied back, no TULEN sticker, will be confiscated.

ONLY  IN MALAYSIA.
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LOL, get the 20cents and perhaps like previously said. Up price RM 5?
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QUOTE(K-End @ Nov 14 2010, 04:53 PM)
/reportBPA  laugh.gif
that the key word...'we know' but 'they dont know' (or to put it harshly, they dont give a damn)

and the sad thing is...all this crappy game tulen sticker stuff issue were raised by 1 dealer itself to KPDNKK. well who can blame them since they get the right to distribute certain game company's games and people buy all the games from importers which sell cheaper than them and KPDNKK come to the scene to take advantage of the situation.  i know the story by one of the dealers in here who is pissed off about this
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hehehehehe...kes amik barang sudah report sama pengarah laugh.gif tindakan telah di ambil.... laugh.gif

aku terfikir...sticker tu duk kat plastik yg bungkus game tu...bila kita koyak je plastik tu...sticker tu sekali terbuang....bila trade-in,..of course...xade sticker ori...

anyway...some company wanna take for granted...maybe they jealous for successful seller in here....so report to KPDNKK about this matter....and KPDNKK that we know full with stupid people...i know coz i work there before...take an action...all game disc must have ori sticker if not..its considered pirated...even at KDN, my boss tell me...new module for game registration will be developed....right now it's still under discussion...
damn....
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Some hologram stickers can be found of bootleg games, especially those anime DVDs.
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post Nov 14 2010, 07:29 PM

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buy from lowyat sellers (no sticker) = RM170.
buy from KLCC shop (with sticker) = RM270.

wow. the power of 'originality' from government.
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Nov 14 2010, 07:24 PM)
my boss tell me...[b]new module for game registration will be developed....right now it's still under discussion...
damn....

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no sh!t, really? doh.gif sapa punya idea tuh?


Added on November 14, 2010, 7:34 pm
QUOTE(pokchik @ Nov 14 2010, 07:29 PM)
buy from lowyat sellers (no sticker) = RM170.
buy from KLCC shop (with sticker) = RM270.

wow. the power of 'originality' from government.
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everybody know KLCC games price is cut-throat even without the Tulen sticker, i know because i tried asking about NDS game there and the price is super expensive...so the comparison is quite inaccurate.

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QUOTE(K-End @ Nov 14 2010, 07:32 PM)
no sh!t, really?  doh.gif  sapa punya idea tuh?


Added on November 14, 2010, 7:34 pm
everybody know KLCC games price is cut-throat even without the Tulen sticker, i know because i tried asking about NDS game there and the price is super expensive...so the comparison is quite inaccurate.
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bahagian kawalan filem rasenya...tapi apa kena mengena aku xtahu...xabih lg korek info

jgn beli game kat klcc...mmg harga mahal mcm bedil (meriam)...
nak lagi clear...ismail sabri tu ade fb..antor soalan kat dia..apasal nak kena ade sticker tulin kat game tu...tgk apa dia jawab?
truly speaking...he the most dumb and stupid minister i ever know...
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Nov 14 2010, 07:24 PM)
hehehehehe...kes amik barang sudah report sama pengarah  laugh.gif tindakan telah di ambil.... laugh.gif

aku terfikir...sticker tu duk kat plastik yg bungkus game tu...bila kita koyak je plastik tu...sticker tu sekali terbuang....bila trade-in,..of course...xade sticker ori...

anyway...some company wanna take for granted...maybe they jealous for successful seller in here....so report to KPDNKK about this matter....and KPDNKK that we know full with stupid people...i know coz i work there before...take an action...all game disc must have ori sticker if not..its considered pirated...even at KDN, my boss tell me...new module for game registration will be developed....right now it's still under discussion...
damn....
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Careful with what you're wishing, registration for games might lead to the dreaded censorship.

QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 14 2010, 07:25 PM)
Some hologram stickers can be found of bootleg games, especially those anime DVDs.
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+1.

The whole sticker thing is a farce and it's a burden to the sellers as well as the consumers. And anyone with half a brain can easily differentiate between original and bootlegs games. So who needs those stupid stickers? :/
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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Nov 14 2010, 08:13 PM)
Careful with what you're wishing, registration for games might lead to the dreaded censorship.
+1.

The whole sticker thing is a farce and it's a burden to the sellers as well as the consumers. And anyone with half a brain can easily differentiate between original and bootlegs games. So who needs those stupid stickers? :/
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actually..this thing happened because of sticker tulin tu lah....if isu sticker tulin tu tak kuar...mana mungkin modul ni nak wat...tp apa yg saya tahu sikit2 its about registration a game
i hope it don't happened....if not kena beli game smuggler lah

gomen nak kaut untung...sbb tu dia perlu sticker tu..padahal..problem utama is price for the film its really expensive....
kalu nak marah pengguna beli pirated disc...itu hak pengguna....

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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Nov 14 2010, 07:44 PM)
bahagian kawalan filem rasenya...tapi apa kena mengena aku xtahu...xabih lg korek info

jgn beli game kat klcc...mmg harga mahal mcm bedil (meriam)...
nak lagi clear...ismail sabri tu ade fb..antor soalan kat dia..apasal nak kena ade sticker tulin kat game tu...tgk apa dia jawab?
truly speaking...he the most dumb and stupid minister i ever know...
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AHAHAHAHA, bapak dafi ni memang agak kureng sikit. Aku masih ingat time minyak RON95 naik harga 5 sen awal tahun ni, dia boleh salah quote harga minyak mentah kat pasaran dunia ni (Dia kata minyak dah USD80/barrel padahal masih lagi USD70/barrel time tu....)

On a serious note, this explains why almost all the game shops I went recently no longer displays ANY ori game at all. Just because they import themselves or got from SG supplier and don't have the KPDNKK sticker.

So now I have one question. Let's say I want to buy ORI game but from US supplier (R1 and cheaper than R3) or Japan version (R2 and usually a bit more expensive but usually have lots of limited edition versions), I bought it online using ebay/play-asia/lowyat supplier, will they check for the sticker when the game goes thru customs?

So far I've been getting game s from ebay and play-asia last 2-3 months iwth no problems but will this situation last?


Added on November 15, 2010, 9:58 am
QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Nov 14 2010, 08:13 PM)
Careful with what you're wishing, registration for games might lead to the dreaded censorship.
+1.

The whole sticker thing is a farce and it's a burden to the sellers as well as the consumers. And anyone with half a brain can easily differentiate between original and bootlegs games. So who needs those stupid stickers? :/
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Politicians call this 'rent-seeking'.

Same like th sticker for original medicines sold in pharmacies and the hologram for cigarrettes.

So someone (most probably cronies of the current leaders) can get the contract to supply the sticker/hologram/ink/etc.

Someone mentioned to me that the hologram supplier for cigarettes is Hishamuddin Hussein's brother....

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yup, R1/R2, even PAL games are imported and release through CUSTOM whom, i believe their authority supercede KPDNKK, rite? So, like this, can KPDNKK do anything about it?
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Here's a trivia for all of you.

Who do you think reported the shops to KPDNKK?

I'm not giving any hints. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Nov 15 2010, 10:55 AM)
Here's a trivia for all of you.

Who do you think reported the shops to KPDNKK?

I'm not giving any hints. tongue.gif
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Takder masa. I have other things better to do.

And some people over here may not get our joke phoenix. be careful.
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Mana boleh. sworn secrecy. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Nov 15 2010, 09:55 AM)
AHAHAHAHA, bapak dafi ni memang agak kureng sikit. Aku masih ingat time minyak RON95 naik harga 5 sen awal tahun ni, dia boleh salah quote harga minyak mentah kat pasaran dunia ni (Dia kata minyak dah USD80/barrel padahal masih lagi USD70/barrel time tu....)

On a serious note, this explains why almost all the game shops I went recently no longer displays ANY ori game at all. Just because they import themselves or got from SG supplier and don't have the KPDNKK sticker.

So now I have one question. Let's say I want to buy ORI game but from US supplier (R1 and cheaper than R3) or Japan version (R2 and usually a bit more expensive but usually have lots of limited edition versions), I bought it online using ebay/play-asia/lowyat supplier, will they check for the sticker when the game goes thru customs?

So far I've been getting game s from ebay and play-asia last 2-3 months iwth no problems but will this situation last?


Added on November 15, 2010, 9:58 am

Politicians call this 'rent-seeking'.

Same like th sticker for original medicines sold in pharmacies and the hologram for cigarrettes.

So someone (most probably cronies of the current leaders) can get the contract to supply the sticker/hologram/ink/etc.

Someone mentioned to me that the hologram supplier for cigarettes is Hishamuddin Hussein's brother....
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i think custom didn't check the parcel...they usually check the parcel that big and more than usual legal weight...if they think the parcel weight is more than it should...to released it..you have to pay some taxes to them.

baru jer lepas cakap dgn kawan yg keje kat KPDN...dia explain pasal sticker ni. actually mana2 barang mcm game, movie, music disc tu mmg kena letak sticker...ia terlalu dalam peruntukan undang2...dan diluluskan pada bulan Mei lepas. sticker tu boleh dapat dgn harga 0.163 sen sahaja tetapi mesti lah mempunyai surat kebenaran dr sole distributor atau dr syarikat pengeluar disc tu untuk dapatkan sticker ori tu. tak ade surat kebenaran xleh beli sticker ori tu.
ini berpunca dari laporan orang ramai...yang beli disc tu dari sesetengah kedai yg jual game ni....pekedai tu kata game ni ori...last2 bukan ori...tiruan rupanya...customer kena tipu wat laporan...tu yg KPDN letak undang2 tu

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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Nov 15 2010, 12:37 PM)
beli rm5 mmg la x ori
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Nov 15 2010, 10:55 AM)
Here's a trivia for all of you.

Who do you think reported the shops to KPDNKK?

I'm not giving any hints. tongue.gif
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Sony malaysia?

Maxsoft?

Play Interactive?

New Era?

Sendi Mutiara?
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Nov 16 2010, 12:55 PM)
Sony malaysia?

Maxsoft?

Play Interactive?

New Era?

Sendi Mutiara?
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Rasa nak gelak pulak tgk last one. haha.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Nov 16 2010, 02:08 PM)
Rasa nak gelak pulak tgk last one. haha.
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Kan a few years ago, diorang kecoh rush semua CC pasal pakai Warcraft pirate?

But anyway am I rite about the rest?


Added on November 16, 2010, 6:20 pmI found this from a 'well-known' seller while searching the Garage Sales...

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FOR SELLERS WITHOUT HOLOGRAM, ANYTHING HAPPEN NOTHING TO DO WITH US. WE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION. WITHOUT HOLOGRAM (TULIN STICKER)  BY KPDN IS CONSIDERED A PIRATE COPY.  GOOD LUCK TO ALL
I heard they were rushed earlier and supposedly around RM100k worth of software are now in the hands of KPDNKK.



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Pick one aside from Sendi Mutiara. I will PM if ur correct. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Nov 16 2010, 06:33 PM)
Pick one aside from Sendi Mutiara. I will PM if ur correct. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(K-End @ Nov 14 2010, 07:32 PM)
everybody know KLCC games price is cut-throat even without the Tulen sticker, i know because i tried asking about NDS game there and the price is super expensive...so the comparison is quite inaccurate.
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this stupid thing is going to bring the gaming industry down to the ground in an instance. how to be a sucessfully developed country like this? such a shame
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Nov 16 2010, 06:09 PM)
Kan a few years ago, diorang kecoh rush semua CC pasal pakai Warcraft pirate?

But anyway am I rite about the rest?


Added on November 16, 2010, 6:20 pmI found this from a 'well-known' seller while searching the Garage Sales...
I heard they were rushed earlier and supposedly around RM100k worth of software are now in the hands of KPDNKK.
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and KPDNKK will distribute those disc among themselves...only a few disc will brought to the court as proof...some of them are not really honest do those jobs....those persons..really make a bad name and down the reputation of KPDNKK...

i dont know...maybe they saw a gaming industry got to many fans...so they think this is an opportunity to make some money...they can take action long ago..but why this time they take really serious about gaming industry??its about money...they want money for them or for the next election...

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dont care about the sticker, just play ur game =D

 

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