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post Dec 4 2010, 11:07 PM

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haha i shot so many pics. but surprisingly my a33 can shoot 500+ pics + more than 10 (1 minutes) video with only 1 battery and now still have 20% left hmm.gif

zstan : eh i see the cz24mm f2 on the a300, whats on the a900??
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post Dec 4 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 4 2010, 11:12 PM)
135mm f1.8~~~~~~~~~~~  rclxm9.gif
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owh biggrin.gif
anyways, nice fair today. too crowded, impossible to get one on one with car. but cute gals laugh.gif
only thing is they like to stand at the middle of the car (near the door), why dont they stand infront or beside the car (near the side mirror or someting). sad.gif

got attend one workshop earlier tis morning biggrin.gif (nearly 200+ pics) , so at the fair around 300 pics and had dinner wiv family juz now less than 50 pics.. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 4 2010, 11:39 PM

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haha paid RM20 + RM3 parking (pusing nearly 1 hour find parking) , kena shoot more la haha biggrin.gif
just pair my a33and1855 with f20 only, packing light. so cannot zoom tight at lenglui so much sweat.gif

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post Dec 5 2010, 10:03 PM

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ahtiven : if you see lens with blue sticker say Zeiss just buy. approved by the World sony alpha user federation haha laugh.gif .

QUOTE(fansoption @ Dec 5 2010, 08:29 PM)
Nice to use? bcos i plan to get one for my A55 smile.gif
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i would say YES biggrin.gif
balance perfectly with the a33/a55. the F58 is just TOO BIGG and heavy, really IMBA. i havent tried the F42 on my a33 but im assuming it would be in between.
i'll say if you dont have a flash yet, the best isto get the F42 should be good enuf and balance nod.gif (for a33/a55 user)
if you already do and have extra cash and love to go jalan2 shoot light just get the F20. biggrin.gif
here link for a good review (http://alphastrobist.wordpress.com/review-hvl-f20am/)

see for urself, how IMBA is the F58 with a33/a55 and how cute nice with the F20
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HVL-F20:
+GN20
+higher than popup = reduce chance to get Red Eye
+use AAA battery (doesnt suck up camera's battery)
+very light and compact
+if use in burst mode can get up to 3frames
+can bounce in normal horizontal plane
+AAA battery can last very long (i shot more than 200 pics yesterday + nearly 100 pics with the flash today no charge battery still could go)
-GN20 cant bounce high
-cant bounce sideways (cant turn head)
-cant know how much battery life (so as the F58)
-cant use as trigger on body <a850
-might cause hard shadow (see pic sample above)
-direct flash may cause sakit mata sweat.gif

sample from a33 and f20,
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post Dec 5 2010, 10:29 PM

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kopitiam : CZ jena biggrin.gif

ahtiven : yes crop lens on FF will turn them to crop blush.gif . erm its hard to compare the Nikon's and CZ 85mm for Sony because for the test might use different body. Better if u ask the Nikon thread about the comparizon bcoz the Zeiss lens for Sony is not the same with Nikon (iinm).

QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 5 2010, 10:06 PM)
Somehow, I would not hesitate getting the F58am for my A55 if i were to get it lol.

It not reli that BIG lol.

but ergonomics wise, mmg f42 would look nice la lolz.
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haha i forgot to say imbalance is oso bcoz of its weight, probably you could balance in normal horizontal plane but in vertical is quite hard (probably for me sweat.gif ). if you're shooting for 5-10 minutes ok la, try lugging it around the KLIMS that at least 1 hour 30 minutes. HEAVYYYY. oh ya im saying a33/a55 with kitlens. but its up to your own preference nod.gif ur money maa laugh.gif

seriously i hardly use my F58 now cry.gif , one bcoz don have suitable bag just for body+kit and f58. another is i dowan people to notice me, see soo small a33 with CZ24 f2 F58 sure ppl think WTF!! rclxub.gif

p.s. ~ probably wanna buy the off flash cable and mount the F20 doh.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Dec 5 2010, 10:36 PM)
do people still use manual lens nowadays? o.O
err, for other than Sony, they have to MF on Zeiss lenses. the Sony 135mm STF is also a MF lens. also there are people using rangefinder cameras which are MF, also more than some still have fslr. MF is fun weyh biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ahtiven @ Dec 5 2010, 10:36 PM)
i actually think f58 on a33/a55 is quite awesome minus the weight. like you said f58+a55+cz24mm. people would think "wtf nowadays flash also got built in sensor"
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haha nice one biggrin.gif

fansoption : miss Lexus ?? biggrin.gif

ahtiven : nice , please post more rclxms.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 10:59 PM

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kopitiam : nope . i have CZ Tessar 2.8/3.7 ph34r.gif brows.gif

ahtiven : its better for u to focus on the eye, but for the 1# pic is nice. the one with the cat doest feel right
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post Dec 5 2010, 11:37 PM

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ahtiven : i dunno, but with cats usually like that sad.gif . try play with the DoF preview button before shoot nod.gif

evilhomura89 : depends where he/she stays. not all shop offers the 'non-retail' price. some shop even offer 'super extra special' price oso with extra con accesories sweat.gif

zstan : same position as ur #1 only horizontal tongue.gif

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sloppy photoshop removing people behind the car

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post Dec 5 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 5 2010, 11:40 PM)
can i ask the car girl to go away? sibuk aje la.. muahaha..
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i pay rm20 for lenglui. no need car oso can biggrin.gif <--- the pervert in me


porkchop : congrats rclxms.gif . can i see the finance minister oso laugh.gif

Mikeshashimi & hazril : the 17-70 don have the zoom bar with glass. probably 24-70 or zoom UWA hmm.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 09:15 AM

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albnok : nice simple review. indeed Zeiss is GOOD biggrin.gif , eyh ur sal1870 looks abit pelik blush.gif

Mr.Wang : one BIG happy family rclxms.gif

QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 12:19 AM)
Tak.

Live View eats a bit more batt than usual and I shoot from morning to night de.

Just now test fire my A580.
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im using a33 and 90% of the time use live view as it is the bigger EVF and last time can shoot 500+ pics + lots video leh, still have 20% battery left. also did playback the pictures and video, use pop-up flash. non-SLT/NEX shouldnt worry much, but extra battery i'd say is a must nod.gif


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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 7 2010, 08:58 AM)
is EVF improving.. or very clear why not since can direct see the expected output..
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i dunno about this but sometimes in some condition the output is abit different. probably the camera tends to compensate the brightness of the EVF/live view. the output sometimes brighter , not to say overexposed but not as what i want sad.gif

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post Dec 7 2010, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 09:31 AM)
If A77 is SLT, then no worries, Sony might improve their EVF lol.

Furthermore, with the market's trend now, more inclined to A55, I think sony might scrape OVF production.

Or perhaps a DSLT with OVF lol.
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perhaps if possile they put both EVF and OVF or id they want more $$ , external OVF laugh.gif

QUOTE(nevermine @ Dec 7 2010, 09:40 AM)
Hi all, im new to DSLR world and i bought A550 to be my 1st camera.
i wonder any1 using 50mm F1.8 lense here? how much is it? by comparing with the F1.4 lense, how can i see the diff? (since the price diff so much, and sry abt the lack knowledge of the Focal...  ==) is there any sample photo?
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not much different if u dont plan to upgrade for fullframe cameras.

50mm f1.4
-sharp even at aperture f1.4.
-better bokeh (blur blur effect)
-better built (body structure)
-comes with hood
-full frame lens
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SAL 50mm f1.8 SAM
-not a fullframe lens
-SAM lens (can autofocus with NEX with adapter)
-shorter minimum focusing distance (iinm)
-cheaper
-abit noisy AF
-sharp output at f2.5
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post Dec 7 2010, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(nevermine @ Dec 7 2010, 11:08 AM)
hi mastering89, thanks for the info rclxms.gif . hmm so i think i will just buy the F1.8 since it is much more cheaper than the F1.4, and F1.8 is ady better than my kit lense
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i suggest if u have enuff budget for the SAL50 f1.4, better get a flash (HVL F42) and pair with the 50mm f/1.8. can do more stuff with them nod.gif . but if don have limitation in budget then get the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 biggrin.gif

get something which u NEED and if have extra $€¥ get the things u WANT. the 50mm f1.8 is more than enuff for me. but last time i didnt consider and just buy, i end up selling it bcoz dont like the range/wideness. play2 wiyh ur kitlens first and only figure out ur desired focal range (24mm/28mm/35mm/50mm/85mm/etc) nod.gif

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post Dec 7 2010, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(nevermine @ Dec 7 2010, 11:57 AM)
hi alucard_my,thanks for the info. thats what annoying me
whether save 1st or just go for F1.8
SAL50 f1.4 = 50mm f/1.8 + HVL F42 (the price)
yea have to think twice or even more
btw, i wonder what is the 2nd lense normally people will go after kit lense? is it 50mm?

besides, you mentioned the flash. i wonder what can HVL-F20AM do? is it better than the internal flash?
bcoz im going to help my fren on shooting his wedding dinner, and i've consult a seller about it and the boss told me that at least HVL-F42AM can do 
so can i just use internal flash?
PS: i've bought my A550 for about 3 months ++ and i rarely use the flash, just play ard the ISO or exposure...

thanks for consutation and sorry if too much questions 
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dont follow other people too much, different people have different preference. u utilize your kitlens fully then u know your preferred focal length, your needed speed (aperture), whether u need or not the expensive2 lenses, which lens/flash to buy. 50mm is nice, but some people may not like it, too tight on APS-C bodies. Some prefer 35mm focal and sony just come out with the new SAL35 f1.8, u go try play2 first nod.gif

for the F20 refer my post here (link)

the internal flash is good, but might give harsh flash makes people's face seem oily and sometimes they tutup mata , sakit woh sad.gif

QUOTE(Mspot @ Dec 7 2010, 12:53 PM)
i don't specifically hate flash, just dun like lugging another bulky item . bought the a33 partially due to the smaller size. hehe.

just using the built-in flash now, so the light is quite harsh. and i dunno where to find a diffuser for that. would you happen to know where to get this accessory?
seems there alot of praises for the tamron. in one of the reviews for the 50mmf1.8, it did say that at f1.8, the sharpness dwindles and f2.8 is the max aperture for good sharpness.  i have been wondering if the tamron can completely replace the kit lens plus the 50mmf1.8. thanks for the confidence vote. i think i'll just skip the 50mm and target the tamron.

btw, the kit lens that i have seems to jerks a little (i think at 45mm) when turning the zoom dial. is this a problem? checked with the demo sets at the shops and it seems to have same issue.
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u should have a look at the HVL-F20 flash nod.gif , really light and nice for small a33/a55. (link)

the diffuser for the pop up flash got sell in the garage sales part there, but be careful becoz for sony they need a mount for it and if u lose it susah . i lost mine and gave the diffuser to my Nikon friend sweat.gif

QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 7 2010, 01:45 PM)
Actually I like the bokeh on the 50mm f1.8 better. Those of you not planning to go FF and does not need to go low light without flash ALL THE TIME can opt for the 50mm f1.8

Wah! Zeiss poisoning!!! I am already so smitten with the 24mm f2 Zeiss already!!! When my wife saw the picture of the lens the first thing she asked is : How much is it? When she found out the price, she said : Don't you dare buy it!  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 10:49 PM

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Mr.Wang : hmm nice for videography hmm.gif

fansoption : we want lenglui(s) picture(s) laugh.gif

e-jump : go search fast, sometimes they just do review and sell back. rclxms.gif

just read the latest DCM, damn BS people compare 7D , D300s to a550. price oso different range oledy . everytime wanna make Sony look bad vmad.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Dec 7 2010, 10:50 PM)
mastering89 : all is lui pic more then car smile.gif SP90 awesome leh hehe
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haha next year change to KLILS , this weekend any TT to lenglui fair PC Fair?? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Dec 7 2010, 10:54 PM)
that's just plain BS la  vmad.gif
7D and D300s is totally different class range from a550  doh.gif
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but try look at Digital SLR photography magazine. few sections features Sony Alpha user with a900 ,CZ and G's flex.gif

fansoption : eyh u said 2 battery get 1350 pics. seriously its much much more than in spec biggrin.gif

zstan : they scared of mr G and mr Zs whistling.gif

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post Dec 7 2010, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Dec 7 2010, 11:02 PM)
but some ppl say 1 batt shoot 3XX pic haha! my 1350 pic + 20 HD video smile.gif
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i get 500+ pics + few videos few days ago(workshop + KLIMS). probably our camera got shocked by pretty cars and gals laugh.gif , gives extra pump pawA flex.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 7 2010, 11:09 PM)
what wor.their 70-300 not L mer. disappointed with these magazines. shakehead.gif
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the 70-300 L USM baru launch , probably mid/end next year only they review laugh.gif

chiahau : no ice cream oledy sad.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 7 2010, 11:18 PM)
but comparing 7D n 300s n 550 is really a joke la. like u said, price wise already different. in terms of specs, all 3 also different. lawl. so who's the winner? i lazy go buy d.  yawn.gif
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my mistake to buy before peek sad.gif
also they said the a550 dont have the top LCD panel thingy. IMHO i dont think needed that, or the shutter count. its just easier if i wanna see/edit my settings by see to the big LCD or the viewfinder. with tilt-able LCD its double the size of the top panel LCD laugh.gif .

i had been given chance to shoot with D80s and pening2 with the layout and stuff. usually with my a33/a350 i just view the settings from the LCD, but with the d80s cant. quite some time to figure out, but the D80s has very good grip blush.gif and was with the 1870 lens that can MF override , hope Sony can put that into next SAM lenses also

chiahau : naisss , i wait for 31st DEC and celebrate new year with my ice cream drool.gif

kysham : rclxms.gif flex.gif thumbup.gif

Mr.Wang : how far can the lights go? err guide number sweat.gif

hazril : at the end of this month's review they said to review the DSLT next cry.gif

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post Dec 8 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Dec 7 2010, 11:56 PM)
Doh! Dun want to see, dun want to see, dun want to see..... x"x
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