i jz bought an acer timeline 4820TG a week ago..but now the start up time is 3min..the time is count
after the time i press the power button until finish run up all the start up program included my anti-virus
trend micro and msn ..My ram is upgrade up to 4GB..and i try to minimum my start up program...is tat
the start up time normal for my new lappy???any way to boost up the speed??

This post has been edited by swordpig: Nov 8 2010, 08:51 AM

If got Windows disc, clean install Windows..
or
Defrag the HDD once a while..
or
If got money, change the HDD to SSD...

remove bloatware, defrag

then see how again...

i suggest to use "Revo Uninstaller" to remove the unwanted programs...

You can try optimizing the system by removing unwanted softwares, like those "Acer" softwares and games.
Keep the startup softwares as minimal as possible.
Defrag your registry and HDD.

Make sure you don't install shitty anti-virus softwares like Mcafee, Kaspersky etc.
These shitty AV softwares will cripple your system.
Make sure you don't start up your windows with MSN, Yahoo chat etc etc.

Thirdly, you can consider faster hybrid HDD or SSD.
The default HDD is a 5400rpm rated HDD, which is slow.

Change ur Antivirus to Avast! Free Antivirus 5.. very light

Then run CCleaner and run a disk defrag using Auslogics DiskDefrag see if that helps

i ady uninstall those acer games..but still left some of the acer ori software which i not dare to remove it..
will trend micro make my laptop lag??

Why not try disable Trend Micro and observe?

i jz got a 3 user trend micro internet security..==

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Added on November 8, 2010, 10:59 amb4 install the trend micro is needed abt 45 sec until 1 min to finish the start up..
i thk bcuz of the anti virus pro..but i prefer to use anti virus..

This post has been edited by swordpig: Nov 8 2010, 10:59 AM

Did the Trend Micro do startup scan? Maybe try disable that...

You can uninstall all Acer softwares, except the launch manager.

Trend Micro is one of the worst AV software in crippling your system.

I personally strongly recommend ESET, every fast yet effective AV.
You can check other AV softwares too.
Most AV softwares give you free 30-day trial anyway.

no need antivirus the best, like me easy, no need to afraid got virus, no need afraid to have malware

same here, but i'm on a Mac

nope, im on window 7, original Firewall and defender is strong enough

Just bought an Acer timeline 2 days ago. Have done a clean install of win 7 with other necessary programs plus using avg free edition. So far works great. Start up time is around 1min 10sec.

If you're on win7, download Microsoft Security Essential(MSE)...should be able to detect most viruses....

always update the MSE to keep it up to date...

This post has been edited by ravewar: Nov 8 2010, 04:07 PM

+1, the best antivirus and wont take much memory or RAM.

so sorry to hear that, 3mins to boot is unacceptable.

you should see faster boot up if you do a clean install of your notebook as suggested by many. use this very good post by gome or NBR

if that's seem too much work, and u are not n00b, try this:

*WARNING* - Not for n00b

1. Download and run as Administrator Autoruns.
- This program allows u to control ALL automated running programs when you computer starts
- You may want to disable Acrobat.com, AcroTray, Adobe SpeedLaunch, Adobe Air, Adobe ARM
- You may wanna disable all Bluetooth stuff such as AtbBtTray, AtherosBtStack (but remember to run it before u start using bluetooth)
- Disable Synatics if you dont want to roll to scroll down
- Disable Acer ePower if u dont use it
- Disable AmIcoSinglun64 (duno what for)
- Disable ArcadeMovieService
- Disable BackupManagerTray
- Disable services such as AtherosSvc
- Disable GREGService
- Disable Updater Service

Heck, you can even disable programs that automatically start if you start IE, etc.

2. remove any antivirus (i use only ThreatFire, but run unsafe program such as keygen from VMWare only)

3. remove Ms Office starter - not sure will help, but i sure remove that when i see it

4. Ya, i remember i remove the Intel RAID things as well, i dont need it

5. Check in bios if you can disable DVD Rom checking when booting? or make HD is first boot device, and do Quick boot.

Here is the catcher, i didn't do what i advised above.

I actually did a fresh install using steps in NBR, but I didn't see much improvement (was using Catalyst 10.8), but my temperature seem increased!

so I Alt-F10 and restore to factory default. I only remove MS Office starter, Acrobat and Intel Raid. The rest all default, didnt even disable ePower, Arcarde non-sense etc.

My boot up speed is 30 seconds from boot to login screen (eyeball checking only). Sorry, I didn't measure after login coz not sure when to stop counting. heck, i didn't even bother changing bios setting coz it is fast enough for me. if i m hardworking enough, i might follow the advised above, at least do a "Autostart - delay" for 32bit process...

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 8 2010, 04:10 PM

i like putochip idea..once the pc get's dam slow or full of viruses n crap..FORMAT

install windows care and scan after that run defragment, update antivirus & scan...

Anyone wants to try this? http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how...a-or-windows-7/

But it did put a note there "Note! DON'T USE OTHER DEFRAGMENTATION PROGRAMS AFTER THE OPTIMIZATION, USE ONLY THE INCLUDED MS TOOL, BECAUSE EVERY TOOL PLACES THE FILES AT A DIFFERENT OFFSET ON YOUR HDD, BECAUSE ALL TOOL THINK THEY KNOW IT BETTER!" - Direct Quote.

meaning only use Windows Disk Defragmenter only..

nice post Eugene! i tested it (after u post this). however, it didnt seem to improve my boot up. still need 30 sec to get to login screen.

for the sport, i remove the login, and tested it again. this time, with many services i make it as "Automated - Delay start". i got 40 seconds from Power button press to getting a Start button... hardisk stop awhile and continue running from time to time, but the system is fully usable with no lag. i suspect the 4 threads CPU can handle multitasking very well.

yup.. i run avira..
lappy asus A8jr.. 3gig ram
320gig haddrive.
windows boot time 20 seconds to desktop..
+5 secs to connect wifi..

2nd partition wiht ubuntu10.10
20secs to desktop.

Use this to measure.. I get 41 sec..5400rpm hdd.. better to remove password from logon as a constant variable..





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 BootTimer.7z ( 52.02k ) Number of downloads: 47

Yeh, vry easy only right? but my desktop haven format for 5 month d, nothing happen also

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Added on November 8, 2010, 11:07 pmwao, ur HDD is something like my SSD d, mine SSD 14 seconds, urs 20 seconds

This post has been edited by putochip123: Nov 8 2010, 11:07 PM

nice proggie much more accurate than my eyeball checking, and minus the BIOS, etc, i got 29 seconds!



can't compete with 20 sec boot time from ravi6662 and people with SSD... but it is NOT slow

Wah... How can u guys achieve such boot times for normal hdd..

here is how i do it (i have Acer 3820tg), some may not make sense for u:

1. remove Ms Office starter (i install Ms Office 2007)
2. remove antivirus (i install ThreatFire)
3. remove acrobat reader, acrobat.com, etc (i install acrobat 9 extended without LifeCycle)
4. remove Intel Raid
5. in device manager, disable Webcam (i dont use this)
6. Download Autoruns, run as Administrator, disable the following:
- AmIcoSinglun64
- AthBtTray
- AtherosBtStack
- Acrobat Assistant 8.0
- Adobe Acrobat Speed Launcher
- Adobe ARM
- ArcadeMovieService
- BackupManager Tray
- MDS_Menu
- GREGService
- LMS
- Updater Service
7. Open Device Manager, go to Services, make the following "Automatic (Delayed start)
- AtherosSvc
- Cyberlink RichVideo Service
- Dritek WMI Service
- Inter ® Management & Security App
- NTI IScheduleSvc
8. i also ran the tool post by Eugine91

i now got got under 25 seconds boot time! i probably can get a maximum a few more seconds if i start disabling card reader, devices etc and uninstall non-sense software like Acer Arcade, etc, which i dont use often. it's fast enough for me, and i prefer to have those software there, just in case if i want to use them



This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 9 2010, 08:38 AM

i finger itchy want to join the fun...

but that, will come tonight...

Recommend 2 softwares:
1. PC Decrapifier - WARNING! SOME AV/SECURITY APPS DETECTS THIS AS TROJAN/VIRUS/WHATEVER. NO WORRIES,IT'S PERFECTLY SAFE!

2.Soluto - Shows graphically the time taken by program/driver to load (needs internet connection for installation, so far don't have offline installer)

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Added on November 9, 2010, 8:47 amOne more thing....recorded boot time usually starts from windowz loading, not when u press the "On" button

This post has been edited by aBg_rOnGak: Nov 9 2010, 08:47 AM

if ur guys using the Boot Timer as reckon by Eugine91, u need to run the tool as Administrator.

after a reboot, it tried to clean itself, but it ll fail. u need to run as Administrator "BootTimer.exe /run" to properly clean it. here is how:

1. click Start, type cmd, right click on the cmd.exe, Run as Administrator
2. run "BootTimer.exe /run" from the folder u downloaded it

happy computing!

I disable UAC and only having admin account

I only got 40.310 seconds.. huhuhu


This post has been edited by Eugene91: Nov 9 2010, 09:19 AM


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Why everyone wants to boot the PC so fast =_=?

Any reason you want it slow?

haha fast feels nice bah

Sorry to say that you are slightly incorrect about using Windows Disk Defragmenter. To apply this method, you do not have to use Windows Disk Defragmenter, instead you should use Windows Performance Tools Kit. Just download the Visual Studio 2010 Diagnostic Tool from Install the Windows Performance Tools Kit Thread. It really works, but you have to let it restart your computer 6 times for optimal reduction in boot-up time.

Sounds fun, thanks for sharing
Boot timer doesn't seem to work on my PC... wonder why?
Anyway, tried again with Bootracer and got 45 secs... Dunno whether their principals of measuring boot time between both programs are the same or not

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Nov 9 2010, 02:25 PM

Erm where exactly did you see that? Im quite blurred as well..

Eugene91
I do not really understand what you are saying. If my following explaination is still vague, just let me know.

The following is from the link you have posted:



The link I have posted is the link in the quoted text. If you scroll to middle of this link, you will see the download link for Visual Studio 2010 Diagnostic Tool. This file contains Windows Performance Tools Kit, which you will need to optimize the boot-up time. The file is much smaller than Windows 7 SDK, so you do not need to spend long time in downloading it.



This post has been edited by alvinkhorfire: Nov 9 2010, 04:30 PM

yeah.. that's what we (those who tested it here) did.. or else it wouldn't work without WPTK..

I think the author meant: "If the Installation of the Web- Installer fails or you have a limited Internet Connection, download the Visual Studio 2010 Diagnostic Tool. Extract the file PerformanceDiagnosticsSetup.exe "

So the sentence " USE ONLY THE INCLUDED MS TOOL" must be referring to Windows own Disk Defragmenter..

3820TG is 7200rpm HDD right? Darn, I guess 5400rpm is the bottleneck for A42Jv

3820TG is 5400rpm HDD but according to review, it's quite fast.

i detected a problem with previous setting; if i set "Dritek WMI Service" as "Delayed start", the Launch Manager will still work, but no more pop up graphics (which is cool and i like). so, i set it back to "Automatic", but i change the following to "Delayed start"

- Acer ePower service
- Diagnostic Policy service
- Program compatibility assistant service
- Raw socket service (Acer VCM) (if u dont use webcam chat, can remove this)
- Threatfire

i suspect the tool introduced by Eugine91 is really helpful, i run it again, my new score:

everytime i download attach..just index.php

try use this URL: http://www.planetsoft.org/

thanks..ok after i install n restart..nothing happen..@ any step ?? sorry noob here

This post has been edited by istillmyself: Nov 10 2010, 12:23 AM

What do u mean by popup graphics?
Wow, Urs is getting faster again! Do u use avast or any av software?

right click on boottimer.exe, select "Run as Administrator".

follow instructions to reboot notebook.

after a reboot, u will see your boot time.

to remove this tool properly:

0. copy boottimer.exe to c:\
1. click Start, type cmd, right click on the cmd.exe, Run as Administrator
2. type "c:\BootTimer.exe /run" <--- without the double qoute

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Added on November 10, 2010, 12:41 amthe launch manager will display a transparent icon when i press fn key, say to reduce the volume, it ll display this



i m NOT using any AV at all. i stop using them many years ago. i m careful with what i m downloading and installing in my notebook. NEVER has any virus problem in my life. for 'suspicious' programs such as keygen, crack, etc, i only run those in my VMware.

however, i use a behavior AV called ThreatFire, its very lightweight, but not really for novice user...

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 10 2010, 12:41 AM

OMG.. so fast..

The boot timer is a bit inconsistent I think...

Do you guys have to click YES to run the boot timer after startup?

Well mine does and depending how fast u click the YES, it affects ur boot time apparently lol...

Im always getting a constant time.. +/- 2-3 seconds

my boot up time with 12 programs at start up


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OMG how you'all make it so fast 1?
I'm still stuck at 45 secs
Not sure what to disable

X25-M?

we're almost d same.. I think that's normal for 5400rpm hdd?

Nope. Ocz vertex ex2 200gb

This post has been edited by putochip123: Nov 10 2010, 01:21 PM

Hmm... the start up time is reliant largely on HDD speed alone?

^HDD do play big part..

Yes it does

Oh I see, thanks for the input
Notebook's HDD can change 1 right? Not much brands selling those with 7,200rpm

Import Seagate Momentus XT

Yeah, I've heard quite a lot about this HDD~
But how to change the HDD in the laptop? Is it easy? Will there be any incompatibility issues?

wont be any problem 1

Haha, that's nice to hear~
But for a noob like me I think sure will have problems 1

u must have set the "Run this program as an administrator" in the Compatibility tab. make sure it is "uncheck".

to run it as admin, just right click in boottimer.exe and select "Run as administrator".

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Added on November 10, 2010, 3:16 pmi heard 7.200RPM HDD is noisy and Seagate Momentus XT draw a little more power from battery, but should not be a bad choice.

if i m upgrading, it should be a SSD, but current SSD is just too small and expensive. ALTHOUGH it's fast, lighter and use less power!!!



This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 10 2010, 03:16 PM

i still don't know what is wrong with my laptop...

A minute it could improve the boot time to around 35 seconds.. then the next day it becomes 60+ seconds...

Look at what Windows Vista Home Premium 32Bit can do



It's faster than my Windows 7

lol.. host might wan to uninstall de AV..beside i use K.I.S with 2 min boot time...haha
more faster then host de.

2 minutes is quite slow for A42Jv lol, u should follow the method provided by Eugene91...

which method ??

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Added on November 16, 2010, 9:55 pmlol .. my one is 99.669 sec



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This post has been edited by verdangilte: Nov 16 2010, 09:55 PM

@verdangilte

So many apps running at startup? hmm

i think so .. duno which should disable///

have you done the optimisation yet?

I manage to cramp it to less than 40 seconds.... Hmm, Startup I basically disabled most of the things except Avast and the ATK graphics... But in return I have to uninstall my tuneup utilities because the 3rd party tune up programs would fxxk up the windows optimisation

lol...i duno how to make it.. but never mind la.. since my one already full of games.. may be it make my pc slow down gua..

Get CC Cleaner to disable ur startup programs, and do some cleaning with it... after that run the optimisation test again.. I can guarantee at least 20 seconds improvement lol..

Games shouldn't affect anything unless you set it to startup after you login....

This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Nov 17 2010, 11:30 AM

well, ur game wont launch in ur system start up, unless u made it as

try to disable some uneccessary start up program, and clean ur system might improve urs. if u lazy, get a SSD like me ^^

ssd too expensive for me la..
haha... hw to do the optimus check ??

optimus check? what u mean?

Do this
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how...a-or-windows-7/

and its not optimus check

paiseh,,taip wrong ma..

Relax, you know he's not serious

haha... then can make it faster a bit ??

up to 10 sec faster or even better for what im seeing ur currently getting..

hmmm.. may be later only try... beside .. is that MSE this AV good ?? currently i using K.I.S

Good enough..

better then K.I.S ??

Well..depends.. MSE is quite good as well.. free somemore from Microsoft
Shud be lighter than KIS.. Avast! 5 Antivirus Free is the lightest i've tested IMO..

lol... cuz some times K.I.S delete some of my installer ... just like the boot timer... i force to disable it when download and insta..

Hi guys,

I have Acer Timeline 4810T bought 2-3 yrs ago (once it is out in Msia market).

It has been giving me 1 major problem.

It always hang out of sudden, without any program runs except yahoo! messenger, microsoft outlook and sometimes with skype.

Previously went better (still hang, but much less frequent to happen) after sent to Acer. nowadays it seems coming back to me.. I wonder, should I just reformat it to Window 7? it has 4GB ram so I bet won't be the memory problem.

I dare not to reformat to Window 7 is because this laptop is company assets. Window 7 need to be bought originally by company too.. (this sux!)

so, any recommendation?

Your boot time is more than twice longer than my Acer


It hang until you need to restart the notebook or just suddenly hang and then working fine again ?

This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Nov 17 2010, 06:38 PM

it always forced me to force restart my laptop. <--- at least waited the laptop untouched for 15-20mins.... =.="

Can try run memtest86+ to check whether the ram is faulty ?

I sent to Acer and they actually tested the memory which they clarified the memory has no problem tho.. So, should I test again? >_<

Well, better test it ourself....

is that because of the software problem ???

how about host ?? recently no see he online ...

Which problem you are referring ?

proxmator problem .. paiseh no mention...

beside.. the MSE only cqan install with original windows ??