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post Dec 21 2015, 11:16 PM

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if not that long how long should u hold? more than 10 years...or flip after 2-3years with this kind of economy situation. tell me how..i dunno..coz i'm newbie. or better just dump my money at bskl?
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Dec 21 2015, 05:16 PM)
How does holding it 4 to 6 years would be ok?  rclxub.gif

You need to beat the fixed deposit rate (near zero risk)

Simple comparison : 1.1M property 1M loan@4.5% 100k Deposit
Monthly installment = 5,066k    Monthly maintenance = @.35c (say 1000sqft)  = 350
5 year cost = 303,960(5066*12*5) + 21,000(350*5*12) + 100,000(deposit) = 424,960
loan outstanding = 911,579

If you sell at 1,336,539 (424,960+911579) , congratz, you get your money back  biggrin.gif
*of coz not this simple, since you need to pay stamp duty+lawyer fees+agent commission+what nots

*above is stupid simple calculations, please add/minus any rental income/misc fees

so the big question, can you get 1,336,539 after 5 years? wish i got a crystal ball  tongue.gif

for comparison, near zero risk investment (put money in fixed deposit @3% )
1st lump sump 100k, subsequent monthly topup 5066

after 5 years, you get 443,901 (earn 43k)

Warren Buffett - "When forced to choose, I will not trade even a night's sleep for the chance of extra profits"
- but some people don't like to sleep at night biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the info...hehe
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post Dec 23 2015, 03:42 PM

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Guys, will MahSing automatically pay the LAD upon VP? Or need to appeal ourselves?

We can only appeal LAD after obtain VP issit?
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post Dec 23 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(spy008 @ Dec 23 2015, 03:42 PM)
Guys, will MahSing automatically pay the LAD upon VP? Or need to appeal ourselves?

We can only appeal LAD after obtain VP issit?
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from what i experienced thus far, MS will prepare the LAD amount and there is no need to appeal as the workings are in order. U need to pay up all due before VP and the LAD will follow later.

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post Dec 26 2015, 10:13 PM

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Just passed by M city earlier today. I cannot imagine it can complete block 1 by january 2016. I think at least after CNY...perhaps April or may will be more realistic.


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post Dec 27 2015, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(amsjrt @ Dec 26 2015, 10:13 PM)
Just passed by M city earlier today. I cannot imagine it can complete block 1 by january 2016. I think at least after CNY...perhaps April or may will be more realistic.
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I have similar view. If Mah Sing die die want to hand over before CNY, the defect rectification work will take months like Empire City. I hope they can be more professional.
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post Jan 21 2016, 09:34 AM

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post Jan 21 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Goosebumps @ Jan 21 2016, 09:34 AM)
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This block i think another 6months to go before VP.

If you go behind and take photo, the 2nd block is nowhere ready and that is where all the hanging garden still uncompleted.
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post Jan 21 2016, 09:53 AM

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it looks quite nice, actually smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(gks @ Jan 21 2016, 09:42 AM)
This block i think another 6months to go before VP.

If you go behind and take photo, the 2nd block is nowhere ready and that is where all the hanging garden still uncompleted.
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hanging garden plants need time to grow also ..hope MS don't just put plastic plants! rclxub.gif

the colors are very dark and foreboding...and this grey and white combination is getting really "common"..
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post Jan 21 2016, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Jan 21 2016, 09:54 AM)
hanging garden plants need time to grow also ..hope MS don't just put plastic plants!  rclxub.gif

the colors are very dark and foreboding...and this grey and white combination is getting really "common"..
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MahSing is not reknown for their landscaping works.
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post Jan 21 2016, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(karl_razlie @ Dec 21 2015, 03:02 PM)
For this M City if u can hold 4 to 6 years than ok. If not bye bye hi hi....hehe
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If all others properties need to hold 4-6 years , all died lioa.

What a statement
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post Jan 21 2016, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(odieboy @ Dec 27 2015, 06:56 AM)
I have similar view. If Mah Sing die die want to hand over before CNY, the defect rectification work will take months like Empire City. I hope they can be more professional.
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Thank god MS is not ME. Up till now, none happen on MS project and in fact buyers at least more comfortable with MS now.
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post Jan 21 2016, 08:21 PM

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although the completion is a bit delay, but still acceptable in this moment(worst economic and property).

at least is listed company, we can still see the company got a good cash flow, how many dept, got how many landbank in hand.

ME also a big company, but we know not much in this company.
especially the cash flow and dept.
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post Jan 21 2016, 10:59 PM

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post Jan 27 2016, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(ace77 @ Jan 21 2016, 12:04 PM)
If all others properties need to hold 4-6 years , all died lioa.

What a statement
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so what do ya think? i'm new in this property investment...with this kind of economic situation. how long need to hold or just sell it when VP or within 2-3years. xplain pz i'm noobs.
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post Jan 28 2016, 02:32 PM

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I never believe Mah Sing can ever pull that "hanging garden". Why? Just check their project in other places. They will show u AAA grade gardens, but they only delivered B grade. Do ur research and u will know. But nevertheless, i think no need to worry if u can hold on to ur buy until MRT station nearby completed. Until then, find a very2 good tenant ya
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jan 28 2016, 02:32 PM)
I never believe Mah Sing can ever pull that "hanging garden". Why? Just check their project in other places. They will show u AAA grade gardens, but they only delivered B grade. Do ur research and u will know. But nevertheless, i think no need to worry if u can hold on to ur buy until MRT station nearby completed. Until then, find a very2 good tenant ya
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The hanging garden stacked on each other for 6 levels and sanchwiched between two longish blocks.

Despite East-West orientation, those low gardens probably will be denied constant natural sunlight for its landscaping.

The circle line MRT station? Still talk about it? Maybe wait till 2030.....
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post Jan 28 2016, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jan 28 2016, 02:32 PM)
I never believe Mah Sing can ever pull that "hanging garden". Why? Just check their project in other places. They will show u AAA grade gardens, but they only delivered B grade. Do ur research and u will know. But nevertheless, i think no need to worry if u can hold on to ur buy until MRT station nearby completed. Until then, find a very2 good tenant ya
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better buy element instead??
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post Jan 28 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jan 28 2016, 02:32 PM)
I never believe Mah Sing can ever pull that "hanging garden". Why? Just check their project in other places. They will show u AAA grade gardens, but they only delivered B grade. Do ur research and u will know. But nevertheless, i think no need to worry if u can hold on to ur buy until MRT station nearby completed. Until then, find a very2 good tenant ya
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I do agree with you..now the buyers better pray they don't put plastic plants and flowers instead!

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