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post Nov 8 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(jananan @ Nov 8 2010, 01:39 AM)
any one of you guys tried the volume hack ? by removing the protection limit in pulseaudio ?
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volume hack?! how to do it?! gimme da guide/link/page. i'll go try it! i need LOUDER MUSIC! sweat.gif
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nope...anyway, bad timing to ask...everyone's off to bed already...me too soon tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(jananan @ Nov 8 2010, 01:39 AM)
any one of you guys tried the volume hack ? by removing the protection limit in pulseaudio ?
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You mean to make the sound louder?
I seldom use the speaker.My phone normally in silent phone + I use headset all the time.

So this hack is useless for me. tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(cartman87 @ Nov 8 2010, 01:48 AM)
volume hack?! how to do it?! gimme da guide/link/page. i'll go try it! i need LOUDER MUSIC!  sweat.gif
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cd to folder /var/lib/pulse-nokia

(you need root access)

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edit this file

ihf.parameters

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1)change this 2 parameters to false

x-maemo.xprot.displacement = false

x-maemo.xprot.temperature = false


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then change the value of this entry to true

x-maemo.sidetone = true

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then change the values of these 3 entries (never exceed 10000 and -9999)

x-maemo.sidetone.lgain = 10000

x-maemo.sidetone.rgain = 10000

x-maemo.ear_ref_padding = -9999


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save and exit

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then type (still root)

stop pulseaudio

wait 15 seconds

type (still root)

start pulseaudio

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REDUCE SYSTEM VOLUME TO 50% FIRST

open the media player, play any song that is not too loud first.

increase the volume a bit by a bit... you will notice 80% - 100% max volume is louder than usual.

be warned, if you feel your speakers cant take it (crackling) reduce and restore original values.

original values,

true
true
false
6000
6000
-3333


Added on November 8, 2010, 2:09 amyou can try exceed the values if you dare...

i dare not try above 10000

as super_evil_alien said... i also rarely fire up my speakers. furthermore i dont use it as a phone, so it never rings.


Added on November 8, 2010, 2:09 amagain, warning... this might permanently DAMAGE YOUR SPEAKERS.

This post has been edited by jananan: Nov 8 2010, 02:09 AM
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:12 AM

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tutup buku.. cool2.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE(one1002 @ Nov 8 2010, 02:12 AM)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=61204

nah..to anyone who are too afraid of flashing the phone manually via the command prompt and flasher-3.5...
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Seriously I'll say this,those who are not willing to learn even the simple reflashing should not use/own N900 or any other NITs.
I don't expect everyone to be pro's at linux but it's a simple steps plus it's also fun learning something new.

As long as I'm TS I won't add this at FP or suggest this either.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 8 2010, 02:25 AM)
Seriously I'll say this,those who are not willing to learn even the simple reflashing should not use/own N900 or any other NITs.
I don't expect everyone to be pro's at linux but it's a simple steps plus it's also fun learning something new.

As long as I'm TS I won't add this at FP or suggest this either.
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seriously, this smells like disaster...
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 8 2010, 02:25 AM)
Seriously I'll say this,those who are not willing to learn even the simple reflashing should not use/own N900 or any other NITs.
I don't expect everyone to be pro's at linux but it's a simple steps plus it's also fun learning something new.

As long as I'm TS I won't add this at FP or suggest this either.
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and i'm not expecting this to be added on the FP either.. smile.gif

it's not i'm demotivating people to stop learning though..but i was just sharing it.. =)

i myself had some hard times learning linux..thus when i got the N900..i have some quite of a knowledge about linux commands too.. so no biggie for me..

it's just that (not pointing finger to anyone) there are some users who are really afraid of doing one of the basic stuff in N900..and that is MANUAL FLASHING..

1. "i don't trust manual flashing" - it's not manual flashing u didn't trust..it was yourself who u didn't trust..
2. "i'm afraid of flashing..afraid of doing something wrong" - this is obviously the most lame excuse to shout out about..MISTAKES IN FLASHING DOESN'T KILL YOUR PHONE..
3.. "aiya..OTA upgrade is easier than manual lehh" - do you know that u can't flash the same firmware using OTA?meaning if u are currently in PR1.3, u can't OTA to PR1.3..only if you are in PR1.2, then only u can OTA to PR1.3...

and guess what, all of these happen AFTER using/owning the N900.. blush.gif

now this you can add above the FLASHING PART on the FP to motivate N900 users to learn to manually flash their phone

sorry super_evil_alien if my post doesn't help..i'll edit it..

This post has been edited by one1002: Nov 8 2010, 02:51 AM
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post Nov 8 2010, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(one1002 @ Nov 8 2010, 02:47 AM)
and i'm not expecting this to be added on the FP either..  smile.gif

it's not i'm demotivating people to stop learning though..but i was just sharing it.. =)

i myself had some hard times learning linux..thus when i got the N900..i have some quite of a knowledge about linux commands too.. so no biggie for me..

it's just that (not pointing finger to anyone) there are some users who are really afraid of doing one of the basic stuff in N900..and that is MANUAL FLASHING..

1. "i don't trust manual flashing" - it's not manual flashing u didn't trust..it was yourself who u didn't trust..
2. "i'm afraid of flashing..afraid of doing something wrong" - this is obviously the most lame excuse to shout out about..MISTAKES IN FLASHING DOESN'T KILL YOUR PHONE..
3.. "aiya..OTA upgrade is easier than manual lehh" - do you know that u can't flash the same firmware using OTA?meaning if u are currently in PR1.3, u can't OTA to PR1.3..only if you are in PR1.2, then only u can OTA to PR1.3...

and guess what, all of these happen AFTER using/owning the N900..  blush.gif

now this you can add above the FLASHING PART on the FP to motivate N900 users to learn to manually flash their phone

sorry super_evil_alien if my post doesn't help..i'll edit it..
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its not a bad post at all...

just we encourage learning instead of spoonfeeding...

imho, those kind of programs can cause more issues sometimes...

its just a script written in ms script or dos batch, that does things automatically for you.

but its sure to run into problems when your machine is not 100% equal to the computer that it was developed on.

things like which folder you're running from, or spelling of certain filenames and folders, even the drive that you installed your windows on can be an issue.

just a simple glitch could cause issues to your computer as well. (some ms script codes, if not all, are considered threat by most anti virus programs)

it is easy to flash manually, the script still requires you to reboot your phone, press U key and do all that stuff.

it just automates typing this in your command prompt 'flasher-3.5 -f xxxfiascoxxx.bin -F -R'

if you can download the script files, unzip it and set up the folder and copy all the necessary files in the right folder with the right names, i am sure you can type that command in too.

(by you, i dont mean you one1002, i mean generically)

This post has been edited by jananan: Nov 8 2010, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE(jananan @ Nov 8 2010, 03:04 AM)
its not a bad post at all...

just we encourage learning instead of spoonfeeding...

imho, those kind of programs can cause more issues sometimes...

its just a script written in ms script or dos batch, that does things automatically for you.

but its sure to run into problems when your machine is not 100% equal to the computer that it was developed on.

things like which folder you're running from, or spelling of certain filenames and folders, even the drive that you installed your windows on can be an issue.

just a simple glitch could cause issues to your computer as well. (some ms script codes, if not all, are considered threat by most anti virus programs)

it is easy to flash manually, the script still requires you to reboot your phone, press U key and do all that stuff.

it just automates typing this in your command prompt  'flasher-3.5 -f xxxfiascoxxx.bin -F -R'

if you can download the script files, unzip it and set up the folder and copy all the necessary files in the right folder with the right names, i am sure you can type that command in too.

(by you, i dont mean you one1002, i mean generically)
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your point is good..

that's y ASPIRE and SUPER_EVIL_ALIEN created the front page guide..it's full of basic informations..

nonetheless, there are still some users who come in, click on the last page, start asking questions which had already been answered on the FP..

we all know that reading the whole thread is a pain in the a.ss..but spend just a moment on the front page..thread starters created the FP for a reason..not just to be displayed..

so the reason i posted the link in my previous post were meant for those who i describe in my previous posts too..

but i forgot to add some sentence below the link which is "learning to flash manually doesn't cost u a single thing, except making u smarter and understanding the way N900 behaves"..


Added on November 8, 2010, 3:29 amowh yeah..super_evil_alien..i wonder if you could edit the first post on the front page to add "NEW-COMERS, PLEASE READ THE FRONT PAGE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE INCLUDED ON THE FIRST PAGE. FAILING TO DO SO WILL RESULT YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE IGNORED" whistling.gif

bahahahahhahaa....that'll goes well with your nickname, hence super evil.. =P drool.gif

just kidding.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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@one1002
It's a usefull post but as jananan said this kind of method will just encourage more spoonfeeding.
Maemo is not exactly a normal mobile OS.It's a very advanced mobile OS which in some situation need some effort by the owner to learn about it.
The early adopters here spend a long time creating a simplified guide & plenty of other infos for owners & wannabe owners.But some of the people just keep on repeating the same stuff that answered in FP.For gods sake we can't really spell every steps for some tweaks or flashing.

I'm not Nokia/Maemo fanboy really.Heck you guys probably have seen my post cursing Nokia.But I take pride being a N900 owner.It helped me gain some extra knowledge.I just wish the same for everyone.


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:22 amOh,and did I mention that we have one of the best frontpage ever? laugh.gif
It's lots better 90% than most the other phone thread.
Thanks to aspire for doing this.

Just wait till Nitdroid 0.0.9 release.I'll add few more stuff with it.
porselina's webOS game guide should be up around that time too.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Nov 8 2010, 04:22 AM
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post Nov 8 2010, 04:24 AM

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QUOTE(one1002 @ Nov 8 2010, 03:25 AM)
your point is good..

that's y ASPIRE and SUPER_EVIL_ALIEN created the front page guide..it's full of basic informations..

nonetheless, there are still some users who come in, click on the last page, start asking questions which had already been answered on the FP..

we all know that reading the whole thread is a pain in the a.ss..but spend just a moment on the front page..thread starters created the FP for a reason..not just to be displayed..

so the reason i posted the link in my previous post were meant for those who i describe in my previous posts too..

but i forgot to add some sentence below the link which is "learning to flash manually doesn't cost u a single thing, except making u smarter and understanding the way N900 behaves"..


Added on November 8, 2010, 3:29 amowh yeah..super_evil_alien..i wonder if you could edit the first post on the front page to add "NEW-COMERS, PLEASE READ THE FRONT PAGE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE INCLUDED ON THE FIRST PAGE. FAILING TO DO SO WILL RESULT YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE IGNORED" whistling.gif

bahahahahhahaa....that'll goes well with your nickname, hence super evil.. =P drool.gif

just kidding.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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learning to flash manually :

1) learn to unbrick your device if you accidentally bricked it.

2) learn to reset/re-install the OS on the phone if you feel something is wrong and cant find the cause.

3) learning how some basic MS DOS commands work

4) learn another way to update instead of using OTA update

5) the knowledge might be useful if you want to experiment with other alternative OS's (NITdroid, meego, etc)

6) manual flashing is much faster when you get the hang of it, takes about 5 minutes to update fiasco and emmc (rather than waiting for OTA or NSU downloads)

7) the exact same commands works in any hard disk installed or cd/usb bootable copy of any linux flavors too (useful if you're stuck with Windows 64 bit)

8) the ability to choose to flash just the fiasco, emmc or both depending on your needs

9) the manual flashing works in any 32-bit version of windows that ships with command prompt functionality (yet to confirm)

10) works even in a newly installed copy of Windows without any extra components (.NET libraries, drivers, etc) or for problematic computers, might even work in Safe Mode as long there is USB connectivity (yet to confirm)
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 8 2010, 02:25 AM)
Seriously I'll say this,those who are not willing to learn even the simple reflashing should not use/own N900 or any other NITs.
I don't expect everyone to be pro's at linux but it's a simple steps plus it's also fun learning something new.

As long as I'm TS I won't add this at FP or suggest this either.
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The power of TS!

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@alien: Rather then 'advanced mobile OS', it's more like an 'mobile desktop OS' - hence all the issues lol. Once you use a true-blue NIT you will understand why the N900 is so flawed as a phone, because Maemo wasn't really designed for that.

As a tablet tho, other then a distinct lack of apps and battery life, it's great really.

BTW, anyone plan to buy USB host cables online or have spares? I'm itching to poke a few thumbdrives into the N810 just for the heck of it.

I wonder if the N8 OTG cable would work on the N900/N810? Can try arr sifu aspire?

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the best thing is,

if any new users have tried and failed using any of the guides in the front page, then there are lots of people here willing to help.

but if you just want us to tell you step by step when you have not even seen what's on the front page, then i have to tell you i am really sorry but i cant comply.

this message goes out to those people who stalk the thread, and PM me asking questions about the device. read the front page, try the guide, tell us how you did it and why it didnt work.

dont just PM me, asking 'can you help me install this app?' or 'can we meet up and you help me install this app?'


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:36 am
QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 8 2010, 04:28 AM)
@alien: Rather then 'advanced mobile OS', it's more like an 'mobile desktop OS'  - hence all the issues lol. Once you use a true-blue NIT you will understand why the N900 is so flawed as a phone, because Maemo wasn't really designed for that.

As a tablet tho, other then a distinct lack of apps and battery life, it's great really.

BTW, anyone plan to buy USB host cables online or have spares? I'm itching to poke a few thumbdrives into the N810 just for the heck of it.

I wonder if the N8 OTG cable would work on the N900/N810? Can try arr sifu aspire?
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those designers had to make the N8 USB OTG cable with a squarish micro usb connector.

it wont go in any other device with a micro usb port unless you make a bigger hole in your device.


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:39 ambut standard micro usb cable works just fine with the N8.

some sort of exclusivity for the N8 or just dumb design.

the sort of stuff that Steve Jobs does to standard ports on PC and adapts them to MACs


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:45 amhttp://thenokian8.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/N8-3.jpg
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notice the extra space around the port ?

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by the way anyone know where the low light apps, outcome photo stored. I took some nice low light photo with that apps..but failed to search for the photo in photo gallery.

where can it be?
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Thank god u guys finally understand the true pupose of frontpage. Have u heard of a saying What never kills you makes you stronger.

Now 80% of your phone crash ah flash phone cannot boot ah flash la you guys make it sound so simple because u guys take the extra step to learn the hard way.

Even symbian ^3 wanna format or update firmware they make it so bloody complicated.

Everyone thinks its very easy to become TS of a thread just create topic ma.
If you compare to the Nokia N8 thread and our thread you notice the huge difference. We have more information than spams.

When new people visit this thread they learn more and those yet to become gets addict or interested because its purely information sharing than kopitiam sharing.

When i am doing the guides and u face problem you complain it also benefits me and improve me to make a better guide because it helps me understand your needs.

Sorry about being evil but thanks to you guys that play along makes the frontpage powerful. If every single one of you reply to their question the frontpage will still be crap and why? Why do u need to read the frontpage when the answers automatic appear when asked. Even nobody online the frontpage speaks it self and even all the sifu cannot online other members can help them

Thank you everyone here for sharing and especially GRANDMASTER SIFU SUPER_EVIL_ALIEN TO CONTINUE THE LEGACY


Added on November 8, 2010, 7:32 am
QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Nov 8 2010, 04:50 AM)
by the way anyone know where the low light apps, outcome photo stored. I took some nice low light photo with that apps..but failed to search for the photo in photo gallery.

where can it be?
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have u check DCIM or IMAGES folder sifu?

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Credit to Aspire and Yoda(Super evil), I like the FP very much, all the basics are there, all the guide are there, all the filenames needed for beginner are there, don't you guys close this thread before I get the phone tongue.gif
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The Nokia N900 community is so strong no one dare to flame or spam here.
How i wish the Nokia N8 thread is like this.

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lol...why would it close...plus we are waiting for Meego 1.2 laugh.gif
btw, I realised PR1.3 made the phone smarter...you know why, when you're using your phone, the orange LED light will not show when charging...but once you lock screen, the orange light appears :claps: I have my cool led light again laugh.gif


Added on November 8, 2010, 8:27 am
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 8 2010, 08:22 AM)
The Nokia N900 community is so strong no one dare to flame or spam here.
How i wish the Nokia N8 thread is like this.
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ahahah..talking about me spamming N900 photos at N8 thread? tongue.gif but at N8 thread I get more feedback including yours sifu aspire, you left this thread quite empty...everyone's too serious here now...it's like a school or something but N8 thread is more...cin cai... laugh.gif but information wise N900 thread totally rules!! rclxm9.gif

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