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post Nov 8 2010, 04:28 PM

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I hope this will not be another flip flop policy.
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QUOTE(wwwcomment @ Nov 8 2010, 11:38 AM)
i also wonder why ppl keep on saying that.
maybe their siblings or children or relatives are all qualify to loan and willing to borrow thier names for them to loan?
very curious... shakehead.gif
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also if their siblings and children qualify for loan, dont they already be buying their own property already? then after they already have one loan they likely not qualify for another loan unless the existing loan is small compare with income.
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post Nov 8 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 04:20 PM)
@cherroy,
Lol.. looks like U been doing all the reading.  So, assuming I've a total of 3 properties but 0 loans, it means this new ruling shouldn't affect me?  And it will only affect me after my 3rd loan with the bank?
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This is still not clear (unless you bought those 3 properties without getting a loan).

Statement says: "Bank Negara Malaysia wishes to announce with immediate effect the implementation of a maximum loan-to-value (LTV) ratio of 70%, which will be applicable to the third house financing facility taken out by a borrower."

This could mean that if you previously have taken two loans, but already fully paid them off and apply for another loan, that you will only get 70%.



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post Nov 8 2010, 04:41 PM

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still too vague. But i believe it is not affecting those with fully paid off properties.
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post Nov 8 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 04:20 PM)
@cherroy,
Lol.. looks like U been doing all the reading.  So, assuming I've a total of 3 properties but 0 loans, it means this new ruling shouldn't affect me?  And it will only affect me after my 3rd loan with the bank?
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Yes.

The measure is targetting on the loan issue only. They are not bother you have 3 properties or 30 properties.

They just don't want bank give excessive loan to people which being used as speculation purpose.


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:46 pmBNM press statement.
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Bank Negara Malaysia wishes to announce with immediate effect the implementation of a maximum loan-to-value (LTV) ratio of 70%, which will be applicable to the third house financing facility taken out by a borrower.  Financing facilities for purchase of the first and second homes are not affected and borrowers will continue to be able to obtain financing for these purchases at the present prevailing LTV level applied by individual banks based on their internal credit policies. The measure aims to support a stable and sustainable property market, and promote the continued affordability of homes for the general public. 
They only mention about financing facilities, aka loan.




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post Nov 8 2010, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 8 2010, 04:39 PM)
This is still not clear (unless you bought those 3 properties without getting a loan).

Statement says: "Bank Negara Malaysia wishes to announce with immediate effect the implementation of a maximum loan-to-value (LTV) ratio of 70%, which will be applicable to the third house financing facility taken out by a borrower."

This could mean that if you previously have taken two loans, but already fully paid them off and apply for another loan, that you will only get 70%.
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third house financing facility

How to read this? may be "financing facility of the third house"..

don't be too happy now. wink.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 8 2010, 04:39 PM)
This is still not clear (unless you bought those 3 properties without getting a loan).

Statement says: "Bank Negara Malaysia wishes to announce with immediate effect the implementation of a maximum loan-to-value (LTV) ratio of 70%, which will be applicable to the third house financing facility taken out by a borrower."

This could mean that if you previously have taken two loans, but already fully paid them off and apply for another loan, that you will only get 70%.
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I don't think they will so strict on this.
They welcomed any buyer that able to pay off the properties.

If you pay off the loan, mean in the banking system, your name "under loan" is not there anymore.
It is troublesome for banks to check this properties is the No. how many you have as banks do not have data on those paid off one or those you bought with cash one.

Anyway, this is more a temporary measure, so whether affect the paid off or not, doesn't cause major concern. As most housing loan is long tenure one, so the new measure has little impact on those issue.




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post Nov 8 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 8 2010, 04:52 PM)
I don't think they will so strict on this.
They welcomed any buyer that able to pay off the properties.

If you pay off the loan, mean in the banking system, your name "under loan" is not there anymore.
It is troublesome for banks to check this properties is the No. how many you have as banks do not have data on those paid off one or those you bought with cash one.

Anyway, this is more a temporary measure, so whether affect the paid off or not, doesn't cause major concern. As most housing loan is long tenure one, so the new measure has little impact on those issue.
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yes, you are right.. co-existing loan cannot be >=3 at the point of application, else will kena 70 LTV restriction
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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 8 2010, 04:52 PM)
third house financing facility

How to read this? may be "financing facility of the third house"..

don't be too happy now. wink.gif
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Did I sound happy? smile.gif


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:56 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 8 2010, 04:52 PM)
I don't think they will so strict on this.
They welcomed any buyer that able to pay off the properties.

If you pay off the loan, mean in the banking system, your name "under loan" is not there anymore.
It is troublesome for banks to check this properties is the No. how many you have as banks do not have data on those paid off one or those you bought with cash one.

Anyway, this is more a temporary measure, so whether affect the paid off or not, doesn't cause major concern. As most housing loan is long tenure one, so the new measure has little impact on those issue.
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I also don't think it, but I also don't know since the statement doesn't address it.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 04:20 PM)
@cherroy,
Lol.. looks like U been doing all the reading.  So, assuming I've a total of 3 properties but 0 loans, it means this new ruling shouldn't affect me?  And it will only affect me after my 3rd loan with the bank?
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No you're not affected. You shouldn't be as you're holding all the risk.

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@kok_pun,
Lol but what if U have had taken 3 loans except they've all been cleared; hence no current outstanding. In that case, qualify or not?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 05:01 PM)
@kok_pun,
Lol but what if U have had taken 3 loans except they've all been cleared; hence no current outstanding.  In that case, qualify or not?
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qualify....

I have clarify this personally with my loan department
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@kok_pun,
So meaning, as long as U don't have con-current more than 3 loans at a time, U can still take 90% loan, is it?! biggrin.gif

As in, this new rule won't come into affect? Ah well.. in that case, property flippers who's got loads of cash will still be able to do what they do biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 05:06 PM)
@kok_pun,
So meaning, as long as U don't have con-current more than 3 loans at a time, U can still take 90% loan, is it?! biggrin.gif

As in, this new rule won't come into affect?  Ah well.. in that case, property flippers who's got loads of cash will still be able to do what they do biggrin.gif
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but who are they going to flip to? first time virgin buyer?
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@cranx,
No.. the objective of the rule was so that people don't buy properties for speculations. If, so as long as I don't have 3 concurrent housing loans at the same time, this new rule doesn't affect me, then what's the point?

Then again, i'm not complaining! MUahAHaahAHAh We need some loop holes smile.gif
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haha... there is always a law, some fine prints and some interpreters....

based on interpretations, you are legally right to do so.
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 05:10 PM)
@cranx,
No.. the objective of the rule was so that people don't buy properties for speculations.  If, so as long as I don't have 3 concurrent housing loans at the same time, this new rule doesn't affect me, then what's the point?

Then again, i'm not complaining! MUahAHaahAHAh We need some loop holes smile.gif
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not exactly a loophole. majority of the speculators do not have the holding power yet they stretched it to the limit getting multiple loans at minimum entry.
you are one of the minority. tongue.gif
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@cranx,
Guess I'm not the kind who dares to take such risks; nanti lose my job, lose all the houses also *oops*
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 8 2010, 05:10 PM)
@cranx,
No.. the objective of the rule was so that people don't buy properties for speculations.  If, so as long as I don't have 3 concurrent housing loans at the same time, this new rule doesn't affect me, then what's the point?

Then again, i'm not complaining! MUahAHaahAHAh We need some loop holes smile.gif
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this is not a loop hole.
at least less "investors" will buy new launch with this ruling now.

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@wwwcomment,
You'll be surprised to know, depending on projects and location; a lot of people take less than 90% loan. May not be majority for all projects. I do know of certain projects where majority buyers are cash paying rich aunties and uncles!

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