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jchue73
post Nov 3 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Nov 3 2010, 09:57 AM)
wondering if I should leave the Mac Mini in the hall and get myself a cheap ass Media Player in the room and do the NAS thingy but then I gotta buy a new wifi router as well.. sweat.gif  also, I wonder how many would get DTS-HD ready media files to play on players like Tvix Slim S1 since those files are huge! 8GB files are already a pain to get.  sad.gif
If you're a hardcore HD guy (which I think you are), you would quickly outgrow your storage space needs. The NAS route is the way to go.

Oh, don't go with the wifi router. Get a proper Gigabit switch (or a Gigabit / Wifi combo switch) if you're gonna stream HD files. Else, go with the homeplug thingy but you would still invest in a switch.


Added on November 3, 2010, 4:18 pm
QUOTE(Alvinix @ Nov 3 2010, 10:03 AM)
a friend of mine brought up this issue yesterday
he asked me if I would buy a player with built in storage...then whenever I want to transfer files I need to unplug my player and bring to the desktop back and forth? lol. how to overcome this???
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How to overcome? Get a switch (if you don't have one) and get a localised network storage area (NAS) for file storage. Transfer your files over the network. Stream your files over the network. No unplug / plug of hard disk.


Added on November 3, 2010, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(Alvinix @ Nov 3 2010, 10:37 AM)
NAS is the network storage right? means the steps would be from pc > NAS > media player? sleep.gif
anyway I'm dropping out all network solutions. I wonder how long it will take to transfer a 1080p through wireless network. besides, I don't like to keep my pc switched on while I'm at work.

looks like docker or portable ext hdds are my only options.

and it's really difficult to pick which media player to buy LOL.
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How fast does a 1080p file transfer over a Gigabit network? An 8GB file would take less than 1.5 minutes. That's assuming your NAS and the hardisk in your PC is able to handle more than 100MB/s transfer. I've tried transferring large files over wireless. Before you know it, your wireless will drop connection and you have to start all over again.

I download straight to NAS and then automatically unrar the files. If you don't store a lot of HD files, then perhaps the NAS solution is overkill. But if you have a media player, I assume you'll be playing a lot of movie files?

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post Nov 4 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Nov 3 2010, 04:48 PM)
I need to check up on the gigabit network a bit more.. any good source of reading materials? notworthy.gif
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Try http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/


Added on November 4, 2010, 12:01 pm
QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 3 2010, 04:55 PM)
Its more complex than that. Setting up the display card to be consistent in the output at proper video levels is still not straightforward.

The media players are better at that.
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That's correct. I myself am still learning and the amount of info out there is too much that it's very confusing. Anyway, because of the myrid of ways media files are encoded, you would be able to tweak the PC while you would need a firmware update from the manufacturer of the media player if they ever get to updating firmwares.


Added on November 4, 2010, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(Alvinix @ Nov 3 2010, 05:07 PM)
lol. I'm using a radeon 5770 and Sharp LCD 32" full hd(extended display). Usually I will drag my VLC or MPC to the TV display, but still not so satisfied with the quality, tested with avatar 1080p.

I think there are some tweakings to be made on the GPU, but yet to research on it.
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I'm just using an old ATI 2600XT. With the latest drivers, I'm quite satisfied with the DVI / HDMI output. I'm just using analogue audio. Nothing fancy at the moment. What problems are you facing? Judder?

If it's choppy, perhaps the player is not configured to use DXVA. It's probably using pure CPU power to decode and the problem would be made worse if you have a weak CPU. You can check via Task Manager to see what is the percentage of CPU usage during playback.


Added on November 4, 2010, 12:03 pm
QUOTE(azxel @ Nov 4 2010, 10:26 AM)
Ask your boss to buy a Mac Mini. tongue.gif
Why?
- Low Power Consumption
- HDMI out
- Optical Out (need to get an adapter)
- Small (really small) Form Factor
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I always think it's way overpriced. RM 2400 can buy you a lot PC related stuff. nod.gif

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post Nov 8 2010, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Alvinix @ Nov 4 2010, 06:19 PM)
um, when watching 720p american tv series I can see some noise on the video. 1080p movies are only so so or maybe my eye benchmark is too high LOL. but then the chinese dramas (rm/rmvb) are damn clear. I'm only using VLC and MPC.

so what if it's using the cpu power to decode, how do i configure to utilise the gpu instead?
btw, what are the differences between a rm150 and a rm30 hdmi cable of the same length? sleep.gif I was looking for one today and the salesman told me the cheap one sold out. He said the rm150 one got better picture quality...really ah?
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You need a lot of CPU power if it's solely using CPU to decode If you use a weak CPU like AMD or even lower end Intel ones, you would not have enough horsepower. Trick is to configure the player to use DXVA acceleration.

Concerning quality of 720p and 1080p files, it depends on how they are encoded and more importantly how good the source is.

On HDMI cables, if you don't have a more than RM 20k TV or TV with 3D support or if you're only using not more than 1.5m cable length, you will be hard pressed to see any difference between the cheap and expensive HDMI cable. My advise? Stick with what is comfortable with your wallet.

 

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