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post Nov 5 2010, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(CKJMark @ Nov 3 2010, 10:32 PM)
Picked up my Torch today and have been playing with it for the last 3 hours.  A few observations I'd like to share for those considering buying one:-

Sliding mechanism

- firm, solid, no goyang-ing when its slid out or tucked in.  Test it before you take it home in case you get a defective unit
Resolution

- a lot has been written about this, and the general view is very damning because of the numbers.  Good news, the negative reviews are not true.  Ok, so you don't have a HD screen, but pictures are well rendered, so are sites and text.  It won't win any photography awards, but it will do the job without you really noticing the difference (unless you are really fussy).  Not fantastic, but not horrible.,
Touchscreen keyboard

- good and not easy to make typing mistakes (this coming from a touchscreen noob)
Weight

- Heavier than the bold, but I think its not overly heavy.  On par or lighter than Iphone 4 if you want to compare
Scrolling

- No lag noticed.  But thats probably because I close what I don't use when I browse.  If you happen to have 4-6 apps running in the background, it will likely lag but not yet tested.
Battery life

- This is my main complain.  Gonna try the solutions on RIM support forums and see if it helps.  Do bear in mind the Torch's battery is weaker than the Bold 9700, and the Torch is more power hungry, so the shorter lifespan is reasonably expected.  Hope a higher capacity battery is out soon.
Keyboard

- Thinner than Bold, takes a while to get used to.  Buttons are just as good as the 9700, but the thinness will feel a bit odd at first
Keylock button

- Too sensitive (maybe just mine, or maybe its the design).  Tend to accidentally unlock.
Optical trackpad, BB button, Call/DC button

- I noticed my model has a loose panel.  Gonna take it back tomorrow to have it changed.  Double check your model before you go home to avoid this (apparently its a fairly common problem).
Boot-up time

- fast compared to Bold 9700 (1-2 minutes)
Phone locking up / hanging / freeze

- No instances so far
Summation:-

I like it.  Doesn't make me drool or hyper, but keeps me happy.  Easy to get used to coz all the basics we love are still there, and lets you taste what its like to use the touchscreen.  Migrating data from my Bold to Torch was easy with DM6, and OS6 is a nice facelift.  New webkit is a big improvement over the old native browser, reminds me a bit of opera mini.
Cons:-

- shorter battery life
- loose optical trackpad panel (check yours before you accept it)
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very concise review. i tend to share the same opinion.

did u manage to swap your unit due to the loose panel? was it on the return key (between the trackpad and end call key? I seem to have the same problem at times - it kinda has a faint click sound when i lift my finger off the button but it works well.
The lock button is also way too easy to press - i liked the lock button on my 9700 more.

One other point i wanted to add for those with a BB Storm who want to upgrade - i feel that the Torch's touch screen works well with the trackpad. someone (either on this thred or the other 9800 thread on lyn) mentioned that you cant get pinpoint accuracy on the touch screen especially when browsing. I had this same issue with the Storm but with the Torch, its easy to scroll down with the trackpad and click on the link.

The Torch is a nice step forward from the Storm/Bold - it kind of combines aspects of both the devices well. I find it a little heavy as I am so used to the lighter Bold2 and featherweight Samsung Galaxy (my secondary device). The screen is nice but is no match for the Samsung (or IP4) but its still nice.

Battery life is poorer than my Bold2 (which is expected) but I am usually not far from a charger or portable charger.

Mark - i guess you have to try an alternative lock app (like UltimateLock US1.99, BerrySlider US2.99, PaternLock US2.99). All these apps dont really work 100% well with the Torch yet but hopefully the developers improve it. I bought UltimateLock but its a little buggy at the moment. I might buy BerrySlider to check it out. Pity none of these apps have a trial version.

I had the Storm1/2 for a while and sold it within 2-3 months of getting it. Torch is so far a keeper and I'm looking forward to the integration with the Playbook.

Hopefully RIM get it right in the next few upgrades. There are rumours about a Amoled Screen RIM device which would be great (with a larger battery i hope). They still have some ways to catch up with the iphone and the android devices but they're getting there.



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post Nov 5 2010, 08:20 PM

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i guess i have to make trip to Maxis KLCC to change it but i will have to wait next week as i am outstation at the moment.
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post Nov 6 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(magiara @ Nov 6 2010, 06:43 PM)
where u dl it?
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Search crackberry.com or berryreview.com.

Google is your friend.


Edit : Added links here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12632161/9800jAsia..._A6.0.0.337.exe
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I03ORNPZ

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post Nov 13 2010, 08:56 PM

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the storm is really a great combination of the storm and the bold! i am enjoying using it too.
and battery life hasnt been too bad despite some horror reports from other users.
i'm on .337 as well. all my apps from the bold2 are working fine. and socialscope on the torch is also great!
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post Nov 14 2010, 06:58 AM

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when upgrading from OS5 to OS6, it is recommended that you wipe your device and dont do a switch device upgrade. This is because some applications may not be compatible with the new OS or the apps have a different version for the new OS. Occasionally, I also wipe my device completely even with an upgrade within the same OS version. It cleans up some junk files from trial apps I may have downloaded.

You should backup your bb data, then wipe it clean using BBSAK and load your new OS6.
After loading the OS6, use the desktop manager to selectively restore your PIM data (messages, text/sms, notepad, calendar, contacts, password manager). Then re-install your applications ensuring that they are compatible with the newer OS. A number of developers have different versions of their app for touch screen and non-touch screen bb's.

Of course, please ensure you know what you're doing when you wipe your device prior to reloading the OS. Crackberry.com and blackberryforums.com have tutorials on how to do this if i'm not wrong.


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post Nov 14 2010, 07:22 PM

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or ebay - fairly cheap and they deliver worldwide.
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post Nov 14 2010, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(satanchild @ Nov 14 2010, 08:55 PM)
Hi all! I'm a previous STORM II owner now a TORCH owner. I love TORCH no matter how many ppl say it is not good to use.

PROS:
1) Touch screen more sensitive than STORM II.
2) Faster Processing speeds.
3) Nice camera cmopare to Storm 2 and Bold 2 ( sorry to say previous 3Mp camera is a crap!)
4) Nice designs - touch screen qwerty, real qwerty keyboard. SureType keyboard still remain, nice!
6) OS6 is very convenient and good to use. Browser multi tab is great.

CONS:
1) Some minor bugs like: when you press "1" in the home screen, it will become "11".
2) You can't touch select the MESSAGE in Notification tab, you can only use trackpad to select it.
3) Hang issue - more frequent and cant recover unless battery pull.

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Overall is good, but hoping APpWorld will have more apps for Torch like iPhone, pls!
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if i am not wrong the second problem (cannot select msg in notification tab) has been fixed in .337

Thankfully, I havent encountered the hanging issue - did u wipe your device and reinstall your apps or did u do use the switch device on desktop manager. Perhaps some apps you have arent fully compatible with OS6
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(meehoon @ Dec 15 2010, 09:40 PM)
Dickson sifu..find out torch only have 1theme..
Where can find out additional theme..n os5 theme
Can use?
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BB Torch themes. some free some need to pay.
http://forums.crackberry.com/f220/

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