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post Jan 22 2011, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(beta9x @ Jan 22 2011, 08:48 PM)
about battery i found this from crackberry forum

Found this on an Android forum while trying to fix my  battery problem and figured id try it on my Torch and it worked battery lasts 2 days with normal usage
1. Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until it shows 100%

2. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.

3. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the battery indicator shows 100% (you can use vol-up/vol-down to make the indicator come back up when the screen goes to sleep).

4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.

5. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the battery indicator shows 100%.

6. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it.


Dont know whether its true or not. Also can check this website            www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/Maximum_Battery_Life
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I dont think this works... But will give a try on any source available...


Added on January 22, 2011, 11:04 pm
QUOTE(mysjumblesale @ Jan 22 2011, 09:50 PM)
I dont understand what hybrid OS means? can anyone explain?
Mine is from Maxis OS. Not hybrid right?
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Lately it seems that hybrid OSes have become popular faster than an understanding of what a hybrid is and how it works. While the spread of hybrid OSes is a good thing, the spread of knowledge is even better. In order to acknowledge this, I am writing this beginners tutorial regarding what a hybrid is, how it works. This instruction is limited by my own basic and restricted knowledge, and hampered by my lack of formal hybrid training. As with any hybrid, this instruction will undoubtedly contain errors. That being said...

Some basics regarding the BlackBerry OS:
Basically, BBOS has two parts: a .sfi file, and several hundred .cod files.
The .sfi file is more commonly known as the radio file, or the base. The .sfi is the most important part of the BBOS. Think of it as the foundation of the entire operating system; if the foundational .sfi is buggy, cracked, etc., then nothing that is built on it is going to be perfect. Most major changes between OSes are a result of the .sfi - for example, the differences between OS5 and OS6 are almost exclusively controlled by the .sfi. Every phone and every RIM OS has a different .sfi.
The .cods determine smaller, less integral parts of the BBOS. For example, net_rim_bb_tasks is for the tasks app; net_rim_bb_btfiletransfer controls transferring files over bluetooth (both of these examples are off the top of my head, but I think they're actual BBOS .cods). Think of the .cods as the house built on the foundation. Some .cods have dependences on other .cods, and will not work properly if other .cods are removed. Using the house example, if you break or remove your gas line your stove won't work (no jokes about electric stoves please). A well known example of this in BBOS is that if you remove Voice Activated Dialing, the about screen will not work.

Getting the .sfi and .cod files onto your BlackBerry:
RIM has created software to place the .sfi and .cods onto the BlackBerry device. The most popular among hybriders is Loader.exe, usually referred to as AppLoader. Loader.exe is found in c:/Program Files/Common Files/Research In Motion/App Loader on a windows 32bit PC. The location is :\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\*os name and release number*\Java (thanks to mikeplus1 for that) on 64bit systems, and I have no idea where it is on a mac. Loader.exe determines what files to install by reading an .alx file. .Alx files can also be used to install BlackBerry apps. Another type of file, the .jad file, is similar to the .alx but is not used in the OS installation.
Programs like BBSAK launch loader.exe to install the actual hybrid. As of now, loader.exe is the number one tool for hybrid installation.

A bit about hybrids:
First, hybrids rarely do anything with the .sfi file. As the .sfi is a single file, it cannot (as far as I know) be edited or improved. And to be honest, I trust RIM to improve the .sfi more than any hybrider. In rare occasions, a hybrid will contain a .sfi; an example of this is the .sfi from 9650 OS 6.0.0.398, which until recently was held exclusively by RIM testers, hackers, and certain hybriders who required payment of a VIP fee for access to it. Because 6.0.0.398 is still in the exclusive control of these individuals at this time, the released .sfi file from that build is included in some hybrids. This is an exception to the rule; for the most part, a hybrid will instruct you to install a certain BBOS before installing the hybrid. The installation of the hybrid will not do anything to the .sfi file.
Hybrid OSes usually attempt to improve performance by replacing .cod files. Hybrid makers usually replace specific files which are dependent on each other (much like renovating a kitchen in a home) with .cods from a newer BBOS. In general it seems that hybrid makers tend to attempt to use files from the newest available OS, under the assumption that RIM fixes bugs as time passes. This assumption usually proves to be correct.
Because a hybrid cannot usually improve upon the .sfi file, it is unlikely to see any truly remarkable change from a hybrid. Most hybrids aim for some combination of improved signal, improved battery life, faster/smoother internet browsing, and an overall smoother OS experience. Small bugs may also be fixed by a hybrid, and small UI changes may take place. Sometimes a hybrid does all of these things, and sometimes they fail miserably.

Installing a hybrid:
Ultimately most hybrids only replace some .cod files from an official OS with .cods from a different OS, and perhaps modify the .alxs which tell the loader.exe what to install. Running a hybrid installer overwrites files with the hybrid files. Hybrids are usually installed into c:/program files/common files/research in motion/shared/loader files/*os name and release number*/. The .cod files are located in the Java folder in this location. Again, this location is slightly different in 64bit versions of windows.
Before installing, always delete the vendor file if you're using a base os from a carrier other than your own.
Always use the loader.exe to install it - BlackBerry Desktop Software is not a preferred hybrid install choice. The actual installation is quite simple - launch loader.exe and let it do it's thing. After you first install your hybrid, you will see those arrows in the top right going crazy. Your BlackBerry has to go through a lot of work to get everything organized. Do several battery pulls in the first 12 hours, and expect a 24-48 hour "settling" period.

Some final words about hybrids:
Often after a hybrid install your BBM groups won't load properly (anyone in a BBM group with me is unfortunately very much aware of this fact). This is not the fault of the hybrid, but rather a result of BIS not working properly. It happens more often to some than to others. To get your groups back, just ask your group members to add you back.
Another note on BBM groups is that restoring Groups is hard on the batteries of everyone in the group. I suspect RIM set it up this way to reduce strain on their servers.
Finally, never forget that you or the hybrid builder owns nothing in regards to the hybrid. The .cods and .sfi belong to Research In Motion regardless of any effort and time the builder put into making them. Further, it is likely that the building and installing (and most definitely the selling) of hybrids is impermissible under RIM's terms of use. No proprietary rights exist in a hybrid other than those owned by RIM.

Source from Crackberry

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post Jan 23 2011, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(feno @ Jan 23 2011, 08:18 AM)
Guy,

of late am can feel the heat of my torch and the meterberry showed the temperature reaching even up to 40 C , I already flash the OS (.337) using BBSAK and reinstall.

Another problem is the menu button seems unresponsive.

Any suggestion/advise to deal with this troublesome is very much appreciated.
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Heat is normal, mine up to 43-45C I also experiencing everyday... But I dont have button unresponsive problem...
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post Jan 23 2011, 10:56 AM

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Great... smile.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 11:42 AM

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You work with Eric?? How come I didnt know???
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post Jan 23 2011, 11:56 AM

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No wonder... Will drop by Telawi when Im free one day...
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post Jan 23 2011, 12:04 PM

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I thinking of changing to red/black 9800 housing... BBM me your best offer...

Send my regards to Eric.. Thanks

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post Jan 23 2011, 12:37 PM

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Thanks...
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post Jan 23 2011, 04:07 PM

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This is first time I heard about this... SOS line and switching in between line when took out from pockets... So far I know the strongest radiation phone is Sony Ericsson... Others never heard about it before...
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post Jan 23 2011, 05:04 PM

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Torch full white are superb just know how to take care it properly then it will looks nice...
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post Jan 23 2011, 06:41 PM

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It is the nicest among all color...
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post Jan 23 2011, 06:53 PM

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Looking forward to changed to Eric... Still thinking White or Red! Confuse now...
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:02 PM

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Show his 9800 photo...
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:19 PM

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I think this the one Eric using now..

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post Jan 23 2011, 10:12 PM

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That why I'm said before get a proper BIS package if you want to use it...
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post Jan 24 2011, 02:04 AM

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I will come soon...
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post Jan 24 2011, 08:45 AM

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Interested:

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post Jan 24 2011, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(raikko5 @ Jan 24 2011, 08:50 AM)
how much for flip top?
can show the inside pic?
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It is around RM140 inside is black, I dont keep stock as I didnt sell it, I just go and get it if forumer interested...


Added on January 24, 2011, 9:13 am
QUOTE(meehoon @ Jan 24 2011, 08:57 AM)
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wow..gojess  drool.gif
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This is his Keyboard color:

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post Jan 24 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(benji @ Jan 24 2011, 12:05 PM)
hi all.. new members wanna join u all.. can? hope can learn more from u all..
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You are already in here so you are joined... Welcome to Torch family. ..
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QUOTE(benji @ Jan 24 2011, 12:28 PM)
hehehe.. thanks bro.. now browsing on forum at ur  siggy
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You can join my forum and Facebook BlackBerry too...
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