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voncrane
post Apr 24 2014, 01:37 AM

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Hi all, I'm planning to buy a new LED TV set for my living room next month. I already have a Minix Neo X7 running Netflix, Hulu Plus, CloudTV, 1080 mkv rips, etc all very smooth and in full HD, so I don't really care for Samsung's Smartv functions (though if included no problem). Not interested in 3D function either due to very limited content currently available. So here's where I need your experienced help. Budget is between 3K - 4.3K max & minimum screen size is 46 or 48 inches. I'm after d best picture quality & viewing angles possible. Help me with recommendations & if possible store locations to buy.
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post Apr 25 2014, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Apr 25 2014, 10:48 AM)
if u dont mind go get da 55 inche f6400 at mid valley hn, selling at rm4699. better get a bigger if your budget is near to it.
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Hi and thanks for your suggestion. Actually I've been reading up on the F6400 series when I found out that Samsung has released the Samsung Series 6 H6400 as the successor to Samsung Series 6 F6400 (Malaysian Market?). hmm.gif I see, I might have to stretch my budget (Not a fan of installment plans) a bit more, especially with updated specs like 120Hz refresh rate (Clear Motion Rate 480), Micro Dimming, Wide Color Enhancer Plus and a Quad-core processor for a smoother Smart TV experience. I get that bigger is better but jumping from a 32 inch to 55 inches will break my bank. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 26 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Apr 25 2014, 03:45 PM)
but still, a short period of pain rather than long term pain unless u feel u wanna change tv every 2 years...
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Sound advice & seriously considering it, but just to clarify, "a short period of pain" referring to increasing my budget and buying a bigger set or that the H6400 series isn't a good buy over the F6400?

Edit: Paid a visit to HN store @ IKEA. Found out abt d extended warranty & replacement terms. To those who have bought from HN & needed to claim warranty, do they deliver? Cuz extended warranty is costing almost RM600 extra. Also, anyone have idea of LG Led TV 47LA7400 performance? Dealer was recommending I take that over the H6400.

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post Apr 27 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Apr 27 2014, 11:57 AM)
for me, i opt forlg la7400 bcoz i'm 1 of the user, & yes i will pick lg bcoz passive 3d do serve my family well, even my kid aged 8th also know how to enjoy 3d. but, kids do careless with the spec so when u need to use 3d, think carefully whether u want passive or active. & i bought this tv with extended warranty & wall mount totalled rm3.6k at end of 2013...
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Thanks... Found the LG LED TV thread... Will have to revisit the store and test the 3D feature.
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post Apr 28 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(skod @ Apr 28 2014, 12:06 AM)
Connected DIRECTLY to TV I mean..anyone know? can't find any app in playstore..
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What android device do you have and what exactly do you want to accomplish between your device & the TV? Screen mirroring? Miracast? Chromecasting? Media sharing via DLNA? Etc. Try using just an MHL to HDMI connected to the TV.
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post May 9 2014, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(malcolm89 @ May 8 2014, 09:36 PM)
Why the movie clip they play on the TV in the showroom is so realistic? I played 720p video which is downloaded, still not as realistic.

I'm watching on a Samsung 40" UA40F5500AR

My friend told me it's the movie clip they play..
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Your friend is right. TV showrooms are setup to maximize the picture quality expected of the TV set. The media source file is also very important. Most of the times, the video being looped in the showroom is "real" full HD (Blueray) and not upscaled media. Also you have to understand that just cuz a downloaded file is marked as 720p, it might not be real 720p. Example, some 720p file is less than 900mb, the same movie when ripped properly for maximum picture & sound quality might be up to 4GB.
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post May 15 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ May 14 2014, 10:11 PM)
When you go to the showroom, ask them to switch to movie mode. Then plug in your 1080p movie file, that's is the mode where you can see all the details of your movie like shadow, difference in colors. The dynamic settings for me is just simply dumb, it kills all the things that you suppose to see in a picture by over saturating the contrast and brightness.
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Hmmm, didn't know i could supply them with my own movie file and ask to be played. As for pq, that's what custom calibrations do.
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post Jun 2 2014, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jun 1 2014, 12:25 PM)
Any advice on the 48h6400 and why is it similarly priced to the lower spec 48h5500?

Good deals make me sceptical.. tongue.gif

Update
48h5500 - 2899
48h6400 - 32++
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I'm interested in picking up the h7150 or h6400 myself and just as.you noticed, the h5500 is lower spec compared to the h6400. So if the h6400 is within your budget then I'd advise you based on my extensive research to pick it up. Meanwhile, which store is selling the 48h6400 around RM3200-ish?
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post Jun 10 2014, 01:14 AM

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Need more info to give proper advice. At least give model numbers for comparisons.
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post Jun 18 2014, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Jun 17 2014, 09:51 PM)
An update. I tested another unit in the showroom with some videos I saved up in my thumb drive and it has the exact same problem. Guess it is an issue either with this model or the current batch. You won't see it in the showroom when they are looping those ultra bright videos. But as soon as you bring one home and watch your usual programs, the banding is obvious almost in every scene with grey / pastel colors in it. Thus, be warned if you are thinking of getting a 60H6400.

The problem aside, I do like the Smart TV features and the new remote control.
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Hi, your posts just making me re-evaluate my finalised option to pick up the 55h6400. There's hope thought cuz it might just be a batch issue, also i read that its possible that the panel is just "warming up" and it should clear or get better after awhile. I doubt that since its happening with the display units in the showroom. Mind sharing which showroom this is? Also, can check and share if the panel is samsung or other brand?
Thanks.
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post Jun 20 2014, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Jun 18 2014, 03:16 PM)
I think the opposite is true.  Panel uniformity get worse when hot due to the affects of heat generated by electrical components behind lcd screen, liquiid cyrstals are heat sensitive but that is about clouding issue.

DSE is a different thing. I dont think u can find a banding free led tv these days, especially on large displays 50"+.  Ive seen it on sony, lg and philips, toshiba being the worse.

But still i dont think it is a problem.  my 2010 lg has plenty of vertical bandings towards 1 third of the right screen since day 1,  but its still ok lahh ... only visible on solid background.

If you want a screen with perfect uniformity, get a plasma instead.
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Thanks for the info. Been using an old Sharp plasma TV that's showing signs of ageing & besides I'm tired of screen burns. So its time for an led TV upgrade. I also think I can live with possible banding issues especially considering my budget. Guess that's why dem UHD TVs exist. smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2014, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Jun 19 2014, 11:26 PM)
I tested it at Harvey Norman MV... if you load the grey test screen and take a step back so that you can see the whole screen, the banding is quite obvious already. That said, the backlight is quite uniform and there is almost no bleeding. If you run DSE tests (you can find them on youtube) or watch panning shots like football for example, you will see some DSE as well.. but for me, the DSE is considered minimal and is bearable. The banding, however, is difficult to live with.. in certain dark / grey scenes (by the way, a lot of movies have these scenes), the horizontal bands covers the entire screen! You don't have to purposely look for the banding, it stares you in the face!

You won't notice the issue when the screen is showing bright colours.. which is why if you just watch the demo videos in the showroom, you would not see the problem. It's only in ACTUAL use, when watching typical shows, the issue becomes apparent.

Perhaps, like what mea culpa said, this is a common issue with large LED / LCD TVs. I do accept that each technology has its pros and cons.. and while I am willing to accept most of them, this one really bugs me. I haven't tested other models, thus not sure if this model is considered average or worse in terms of banding. If all LED TVs are like this.. I think I may have to track down a Plasma. With most Panasonic Plasmas out of stock, the next best (and more costly) alternative would be the F8500.

Also, I noticed the banding becomes slightly more noticeable after the TV has been switched on for awhile.. not sure if it has anything to do with heat.
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Hmmm, HM @ MV. I did my viewings at HM @ IKEA, guessing the next time I go, I'll carry some downloaded HD content on a flash drive for testing purposes. Will consider looking at the F8500 or H7150 if budget permits.
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post Jun 26 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(hammerjit @ Jun 23 2014, 04:15 PM)
guys/sifus....dont samsung produce 50" series 6 model in Malaysia? the price diff between 48" vs 55"h6400 is a huge jump.
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I also noticed that larger than normal price difference as I'm interested in the 55" myself. I'm unsure why cuz some current owners say theirs has "Made in Malaysia" on them. So I'm just going to attribute it to the fact that the sets are d latest & have just been released, prices should come down in a couple of mths when it really trickles down to all retailers.

QUOTE(siLDes @ Jun 25 2014, 11:19 PM)
Any idea how much is "Samsung UN60H7150" and where to get it ... ?
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Try HM or SengHeng stores. A salesguy told me, there might be some sort of agreement between big retailers and Samsung. I reckon abt 6k upwards.

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post Jul 22 2014, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jul 22 2014, 01:35 PM)
wow , how helpful this community , only help those close friends out and ignoring others , keep it up ya .
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Bro, its not like that. Your question was a bit too generic, can't expect forum to go do all d research for you. Besides, we don't know where you are buying from or if willing to buy 2nd hand due to price, don't know what screen size or features u want... You just asked, what TV to buy within budget range? how to answer? You need to go around find options within your budget, then come back here, list some models (not too much ya), then those who can, will try to advise you on best bang for your buck. Ultimately, final decision lies with you.
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post Aug 6 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Aug 6 2014, 10:04 AM)
H6300 vs H6400. besides the 3D others specs is same?
is the H6300 a good buy if 3D is not required?
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Definitely not the same. There's a difference in CMR rate and afaik, the H6400 has Bluetooth, Software run "Micro-dimming" tech & the new smart touch control, which the H6300 doesn't. The H6350 model on the other hand is similar to the H6400 but minus the 3D feature. Since you don't require 3D & possibly those extras, then save some of your hard earned cash.

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Aug 10 2014, 10:45 AM)
Read Whathifi reviewed on Samsung's UA55HU7500 4k tv with 5 Stars rating.
But,our local store do not have HU7500.
Is HU7500 same with our local HU7000 or HU8500? I am getting confuse..he..he.

Anyone know? Thks
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None of the 3 TV sets are the same. According to Samsung Malaysia HU7000 and Samsung UK HU7500 specs sheet. Here are a few differences between the HU7000 and HU7500;

Video
HU7500
Ultra Clear Panel: Yes
Clear Motion Rate: 1000

HU7000
Ultra Clear Panel: No
Clear Motion Rate: 200

Audio
HU7500
3D Sound: Yes
Woofer: Yes
Sound Output (RMS): 60W (Front TW (10W+10W), Front Mid (10W+10W), Woofer Left 10W+10W)
Speaker Type: Front Firing + New Waveguide

HU7000
3D Sound: No
Woofer: No
Sound Output (RMS): 20W (Left 10W, Right 10W)
Speaker Type: Down Firing
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post Aug 12 2014, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Aug 10 2014, 06:59 PM)
It seems, the H7000(3D) is a better buy compare to HU7000(non 3D).
Harvey Norman QM Pg selling rm6599,but local electrical shop sells rm5499. Price alot different.

H7000 specs:
Clear Motion Rate: 800 / 960(PH)
Ultra Clear Panel: Yes
Dynamic Contrast Ratio: Mega Contrast
Micro Dimming: Micro Dimming Pro
Wide Colour Enhancer (Plus): Yes
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Hmmm... It appears so. Since you are looking at the H7 series, you might want to consider the H7150 (possibly the H7100 in Malaysia) over the H7000, due to decent online performance reviews of it.

QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Aug 11 2014, 07:31 AM)
ok , for me , i can only list down my budget , which is around RM500-1200 , full hd or smart tv attribute would be a plus if i can get it around that budget , thats all my criteria and also i am aiming for Samsung brand only if can
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You still don't get it do you bro. Anyway, I did some brief research and the Samsung UA40EH5005 TV seems to best fit your requirements.

QUOTE(minde @ Aug 11 2014, 10:49 AM)
hey guys im considering LG 42LB6500 or Samsung UA40H6400. In terms of picture quality which one is better? I'm looking for a basic 3D TV, not necessary high spec.
Specs wise they look almost the same (42 inch compared to 40inch), almost same mouse etc
What do you guys think?
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I'd lean towards the H6400. For pq, best you load up a few mp4 files on a USB thumb drive & head to the store to see which your eyes like best. You also need to take into consideration the fact that both brands have their own smart TV OS with advantages & disadvantages. The Samsung smart TV store is more popular due to LG's only recently released web OS.
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Aug 12 2014, 06:41 AM)
Hmmm... It appears so. Since you are looking at the H7 series, you might want to consider the H7150 (possibly the H7100 in Malaysia) over the H7000, due to decent online performance reviews of it.

Bro voncrane, do our local store has H7100 and H7150? So far, I dont see any. You saw it before? Where?

What I gathered from Flatpanel forum stated the Samsung's H7000 was the flat screen version of H8000 series(curved tv).
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Well, I'm interested in the H7150 and have been searching for it, so far no luck. I did find the H7100 at an electronics shop in Bangsar Village shopping mall (Lower GF, I think) a few weeks back, not sure if they still have stock. A pal of mine who works at Courts, says the H7150 will be in but will take awhile as Samsung is more interested in selling more entry units like the 6 series. Rumor has it that basically the 3 sets all share the same panel, just minor differences in power, software/firmware to cater to different countries. The H8000 does have local dimming, but because it is edge lit, it isn't very precise so pretty much useless, compared to back-lit micro dimming pro.
Try not to over-think buying a TV set bro as long as its within your budget. Get one with the best pq you can live with, cuz unless you are getting those super expensive 4k TVs, which I'm against due to not enough content or even the proper bandwidth for streaming (intend to revise my decision in 5-10 years brows.gif ), manufacturers will come up with "updated" models say next year or by 2016. Thereby making the 'H' series the previous models. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bloophead @ Aug 23 2014, 05:39 PM)
Cheers, Jimmy.

Took the plunge with this telly, ended up with a 5 year warranty deal for RM6500. It's being delivered this evening so will share my thoughts once I've had enough time to play around with it.
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Congrats... Looking forward to your thoughts.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(bloophead @ Aug 25 2014, 04:41 PM)
Initial thoughts on the H7000:

- Some concerns on the picture quality given my limited usage thus far. There are instances of flash lighting in virtually all corners of the screen during dark scenes. As I am coming from a plasma tv, this is new and worrying. Do retailers in this country exchange models based on this concern?

Hmmm... Me wonders if this is as a result of it featuring edge LED back-lighting as opposed to Direct back-lighting?
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