I know this topic is a bit old but let me share my experience.

I would agree.

Internal Ranking they call it VP or AVP but it is actually equivalent to Director and Associate Director.

AVP rank is higher than Manager. Don't ask me why. I am confused as fish as to what AVP is.

Next is president than Directors...

Ironically, i am back office n that's what i got.

meaning i still don't know what is Avp. It may be closer to the top and the benefits are slightly better with each rank...

I still don't know what the fish is this Avp rank all about.

I was a Manager before this... and then when they offered me the post of Avp and i was like... hmmm? am i settling for something less or better?

Well the salary was definitely more... more salary but less responsibility, bring it.

In my opinion... This Avp rank is like... neither here or there. It's between Manager and Head of Department.

Half of the people in this forum can't give a straight answer what it is. Some say lower, some say higher.

I guess thus Avp is a mysterious position. It can be highly ranked (equivalent to Snr Manager) or just a whatever position (assistant manager). In case of Cimb, its middle ranking management, it is above manager title but below Vp (which could be a head of department).i hope this will help those who wish to apply to Cimb and when u get offered a position of Avp.

Funny thing is, it can be more than that... how much more I leave it to your imagination.

What you are saying only reinforce my perception that this AVP rank is sandwiched between heaven and hell.

I wasn't so hesitant to leave my job cause i really didn't know whether i was settling for something that is lower or equal to my rank...

On top of that the benefit sucked. My existing firm is much better.

The only incentive was the big jump.

For the purposes of this discussion, AVP is either equal to Manager or higher than Manager rank.

Side note, there is something called internal / external ranking...

AVP is internal, the equivalent is Associate Director for external designation. If I recall correctly.