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karheng
post Jan 1 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 1 2011, 05:40 PM)
Nope and not recommended as well. With a personal mifi device, you're better off setting WPA2 and a strong password.

Also the negative balance only happened when they gave the complimentary 10GB last month.

Now no more, you won't get the negative balance and internet access will cut off once hits RM0.
A minimum of RM30 will be deducted every month or else if it doesn't find that amount , you'll get a negative in this case.

That's why don't top up too much in your account. Those who subscribed to the prepaid RM1200 with Free Huddle plan have to be very careful or else you'll be paying RM50 for the next 24months while still having to top up a minimum of RM30 for the next 2 years to keep your account alive.
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as i know free huddle plan RM50 x 24 months, no need to top up minimum RM30 every month. I have asked this question at their facebook.
It's mean the credit will last for 24 months or when you finish, see which 1 go first.
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post Jan 1 2011, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(karheng @ Jan 1 2011, 05:49 PM)
as i know free huddle plan RM50 x 24 months, no need to top up minimum RM30 every month. I have asked this question at their facebook.
It's mean the credit will last for 24 months or when you finish, see which 1 go first.
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The system deducts RM30 minimum every month regardless if you use or not from the balance. More is ok.

When you buy the RM1200 plan, RM1200 will be pre-credited into your account. They never say it'll last you for the next 24months.
What if you use it heavily like RM200 for the first 6 months all the amount will be used up already...requiring for further top up to keep your account active.

An example:
Say the 1st month - you use up all the RM1200 because someone stole your account's access.
Your balance will be RM0

Second month when time comes for another minimum RM30 deduction. Where will you get the credit to offset the amount?
-RM30?

I don't get it because I did not subscribe to that plan due to the risks involved. If you pay RM50 every month meaning will that amount only be credited into your account while when you swipe your CC for easy payment, Yes sells you the Huddle for the full price?



This post has been edited by iipohbee: Jan 1 2011, 06:07 PM
Quantum_thinking
post Jan 1 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 1 2011, 05:40 PM)
Nope and not recommended as well. With a personal mifi device, you're better off setting WPA2 and a strong password.

Also the negative balance only happened when they gave the complimentary 10GB last month.

Now no more, you won't get the negative balance and internet access will cut off once hits RM0.
A minimum of RM30 will be deducted every month or else if it doesn't find that amount , you'll get a negative in this case.

That's why don't top up too much in your account. Those who subscribed to the prepaid RM1200 with Free Huddle plan have to be very careful or else you'll be paying RM50 for the next 24months while still having to top up a minimum of RM30 for the next 2 years to keep your account alive.
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I see. I am still not familiar with the WPA2 system yet.

Looks like it will be a while before I start to use YTL.
karheng
post Jan 1 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 1 2011, 06:01 PM)
The system deducts RM30 minimum every month regardless if you use or not from the balance. More is ok.

When you buy the RM1200 plan, RM1200 will be pre-credited into your account. They never say it'll last you for the next 24months.
What if you use it heavily like RM200 for the first 6 months all the amount will be used up already...requiring for further top up to keep your account active.

An example:
Say the 1st month - you use up all the RM1200 because someone stole your account's access.
Your balance will be RM0

Second month when time comes for another minimum RM30 deduction. Where will you get the credit to offset the amount?
-RM30?

I don't get it because I did not subscribe to that plan due to the risks involved. If you pay RM50 every month meaning will that amount only be credited into your account while when you swipe your CC for easy payment, Yes sells you the Huddle for the full price?
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yeah, that what i mentioned just now, see which 1 go first, so if you use RM1200 credit for first month. No more credit for balance 23 months.
But i think you no need to top up for next month, because the plan is active for 24 months. Your account is active, only thing is no credit.
RM50 is bill to your credit card every month, but actually RM1200 already paid by bank to YTL.
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post Jan 1 2011, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(karheng @ Jan 1 2011, 06:14 PM)
yeah, that what i mentioned just now, see which 1 go first, so if you use RM1200 credit for first month. No more credit for balance 23 months.
But i think you no need to top up for next month, because the plan is active for 24 months. Your account is active, only thing is no credit.
RM50 is bill to your credit card every month, but actually RM1200 already paid by bank to YTL.
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If the RM1200 is paid in advanced, and you lost all of it in just the 1st month then that's really not worth it.
Dust bitten and got nothing...
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post Jan 1 2011, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 1 2011, 06:32 PM)
If the RM1200 is paid in advanced, and you lost all of it in just the 1st month then that's really not worth it.
Dust bitten and got nothing...
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surely not recommended YTL for heavy downloader...
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post Jan 1 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(karheng @ Jan 1 2011, 06:40 PM)
surely not recommended YTL for heavy downloader...
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I don't think the user would use that much in a month unless his/her account get hacked.
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post Jan 2 2011, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 1 2011, 03:13 PM)
@iipohbee

Does the huddle allows the user to set which device can connects based on their MAC address?
I thought i read in somewhere this thread that the YTL is the first prepaid system with negative balance?

I forgot which page already, but i think it is somewhere in this thread.
Based on the system,I am not comfortable in using their service as I prefer the bill worry free subscription.
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Yup... the Huddle can indeed restrict access via MAC address....

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However, since it is possible to fake a MAC address, this is only an additional precaution. A good WPA2 & secure password must still be used in addition to this.

On the negative balance, I think that is an anomaly due to their deduction of RM50 for registration fee....so before you load up the credits you will see negative. Also, during the first few weeks there was a free 10GB bonus access during which time the "meter" read -RM50.....


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post Jan 2 2011, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 2 2011, 01:30 AM)
Yup... the Huddle can indeed restrict access via MAC address....

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However, since it is possible to fake a MAC address, this is only an additional precaution. A good WPA2 & secure password must still be used in addition to this.

On the negative balance, I think that is an anomaly due to their deduction of RM50 for registration fee....so before you load up the credits you will see negative. Also, during the first few weeks there was a free 10GB bonus access during which time the "meter" read -RM50.....
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For me, i heard that it can be over come by changing the mac address.

However, such precaution may discourage the hacker if there are other soft targets around. Is there a way restrict the data usage through the huddle?
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post Jan 2 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 2 2011, 09:20 AM)
For me, i heard that it can be over come by changing the mac address.

However, such precaution may discourage the hacker if there are other soft targets around. Is there a way restrict the data usage through the huddle?
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Can't find any means to cap usage.... I think YTL wouldn't like the idea .....
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 2 2011, 11:55 AM)
Can't find any means to cap usage.... I think YTL wouldn't like the idea .....
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Got mine activated finally after resetting the huddle. Speed averages 1.25 mbps. Overall ok if compared to my previous maxis of only max 0.3 mbps. I m not a heavy user, hopefully can save some money as this is payu
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post Jan 2 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jan 2 2011, 12:11 PM)
Got mine activated finally after resetting the huddle. Speed averages 1.25 mbps. Overall ok if compared to my previous maxis of only max 0.3 mbps. I m not a heavy user, hopefully can save some money as this is payu
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Hi BigMan123,

How many "bar" reception do you get?

For me if I get 4 bar I can get

user posted image

but if I get 3 bar I can only get 5Mbps or worse.....

Seems YTL Yes is very sensitive to signal quality.....
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 2 2011, 12:22 PM)
Hi BigMan123,

How many "bar" reception do you get?

For me if I get 4 bar I can get

user posted image

but if I get 3 bar I can only get 5Mbps or worse.....

Seems YTL Yes is very sensitive to signal quality.....
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That is true. A 2 bar signal only would not get you anything more than 3mbps.

When I place my Huddle behind walls inside my bedroom, it'll only get 2 bars at most. Speedtest will not exceed 3mbps.
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 2 2011, 11:55 AM)
Can't find any means to cap usage.... I think YTL wouldn't like the idea .....
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Looks like we have to really monitor the YTL credit at all times.
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post Jan 2 2011, 05:45 PM

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YES, can be hacked?

OMG, users will lose their credit in no time doh.gif

there are numerous hacking too around too brows.gif
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post Jan 2 2011, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 2 2011, 05:45 PM)
YES, can be hacked?

OMG, users will lose their credit in no time doh.gif

there are numerous hacking too around too brows.gif
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Any idea how we can view usage? Credit seems to be going down quite fast... But i like the huddle or turtle shell. Haha
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 2 2011, 05:45 PM)
YES, can be hacked?

OMG, users will lose their credit in no time doh.gif

there are numerous hacking too around too brows.gif
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Umm, any wireless device have such a risk. In YES case, it will be real painful.

QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jan 2 2011, 06:13 PM)
Any idea how we can view usage? Credit seems to be going down quite fast... But i like the huddle or turtle shell. Haha
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You can install a free network monitor software in your pc, but if people hacked into your huddle; you can only know when you check your credit.
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post Jan 2 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Dec 24 2010, 09:26 AM)
Malaysian mentality, always comparing with S'pore. Have you seen other 'first world' internet charges? US for example? Here's one for Verizon.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobileb...oadband%20plans

Let me see... for 4G its USD50 for 5GB allowance and USD10 for every each GB afterward.

That's USD300 for that same 30GB of data.

Oh my it gets worse with smartphones.

USD20 with 2GB of data and USD20 for every GB afterward.

Lemme see, that's USD500 for 30GB of data.

At least last I check YES has the same one single rate for whatever and everything you uses.
Seriously, Malaysian are way too pampered by Streamyx and this is the result. FUP is very normal in any ISP. Otherwise some jackass will keep torrenting day in day out without a care in the world.
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dude u need some brain fix
thr earn thr and use thr also wont feel exp
earn using USD use USD
we malaysia use MY dollar buy EXPENSIVE MY Server
even compare singapore dollar to dollar its even cheaper then malaysia
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post Jan 2 2011, 08:36 PM

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Yes follows Clearwire as their role model.

Did you all know that Clear Wimax packages comes with unlimited data usage and no speed caps?

http://www.clear.com/packages

They shame Verizon's LTE service.
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Jan 2 2011, 08:11 PM)
dude u need some brain fix
thr earn thr and use thr also wont feel exp
earn using USD use USD
we malaysia use MY dollar buy EXPENSIVE MY Server
even compare singapore dollar to dollar its even cheaper then malaysia
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Sounds reasonable for them to charge more expensive than other country, but i am not a fan of YTL mainly because of its charging method.


QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jan 2 2011, 08:36 PM)
Yes follows Clearwire as their role model.

Did you all know that Clear Wimax packages comes with unlimited data usage and no speed caps?

http://www.clear.com/packages

They shame Verizon's LTE service.
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Bro,

P1 wimax which operates the FUP also having a difficulty of maintaining optimum service to all customer. If no FUP in place, do you think it is "better" and fair to some users?

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