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 Ford Fiesta Officially Launched!

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post Oct 3 2013, 11:11 AM

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Hope i can get some answers

Old Fiesta has gear box issues. Dunno how is the new launch one stand out.

What is the current offers being offered on the market now, trying to get a benchmark.

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post Oct 3 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(VOOSH @ Oct 3 2013, 11:11 AM)
Hope i can get some answers

Old Fiesta has gear box issues. Dunno how is the new launch one stand out.

What is the current offers being offered on the market now, trying to get a benchmark.

Thx
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If you are referring to the jerking as gear box issues, then I'd have to say its simply the characteristics of the gearbox. I'm not sure of the new Fiesta but it probably has the same issues as it uses the same engine and DSG gearbox.

On what is being offered, are you referring to the Old Fiesta or the current Gen?

If it is the new one, I believe there isn't any offers being thrown around.
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:42 PM

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anyone bought new fiesta ? cant find any SA in this forum
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(deladela @ Oct 3 2013, 02:14 PM)
If you are referring to the jerking as gear box issues, then I'd have to say its simply the characteristics of the gearbox. I'm not sure of the new Fiesta but it probably has the same issues as it uses the same engine and DSG gearbox.

On what is being offered, are you referring to the Old Fiesta or the current Gen?

If it is the new one, I believe there isn't any offers being thrown around.
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1. Previous version is 1.6 while the new one from Thailand is 1.5
2. DSG is VW's dual clutch gearbox, Ford uses Powershift which is also a dual clutch, but they are NOT the same, since the former is far superior. sweat.gif

And YES, same old powershift in the new Fiesta. And there were reported oil leak issue apart from the jerk.
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(leaF @ Oct 20 2013, 08:42 PM)
anyone bought new fiesta ? cant find any SA in this forum
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I think since the new Fiesta has only 2 airbags there is little interest anymore.
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM)
I think since the new Fiesta has only 2 airbags there is little interest anymore.
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yea . so was wondering do ford throw around any deals around the town. So far none I had asked.

want to know more about the feedback if anyone here purchase it .
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM)
I think since the new Fiesta has only 2 airbags there is little interest anymore.
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Previous Fiesta sales majority consist of the S, which, apparently is only 2 airbags as well.
Numbers don't lie. You can't blame Ford for offering only 2 airbags to Malaysians. doh.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Oct 20 2013, 08:54 PM)
Previous Fiesta sales majority consist of the S, which, apparently is only 2 airbags as well.
Numbers don't lie. You can't blame Ford for offering only 2 airbags to Malaysians. doh.gif
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Yeah, cause it was the only stylish hatchback. Now I can get a stylish Rio at a lower price, or for slightly more a much more attractive 208, which also has a better made interior. And both options come with 6 airbags. The market has become much more competitive... and Ford responds by increasing the price and downgrading the car.
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gonna wait till they revise the price ..with vios is getting good volume booking as well.. I hope they will come out with something to attract the potential buyers
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post Oct 21 2013, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(VOOSH @ Oct 3 2013, 11:11 AM)
Hope i can get some answers

Old Fiesta has gear box issues. Dunno how is the new launch one stand out.

What is the current offers being offered on the market now, trying to get a benchmark.

Thx
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hey idiot...u need to differenciate issues with characteristic.

dual clutch has 2 clutch.NOT ONE CLUTCH! 1-6 gears is tied to the same clutch

understand that..or else buy a car with CVT
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post Oct 21 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM)
1. Previous version is 1.6 while the new one from Thailand is 1.5
2. DSG is VW's dual clutch gearbox, Ford uses Powershift which is also a dual clutch, but they are NOT the same, since the former is far superior.  sweat.gif

And YES, same old powershift in the new Fiesta. And there were reported oil leak issue apart from the jerk.
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Hahah...yea my bad. I wrote wrong, I meant the Powershift. blush.gif

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Yeah, cause it was the only stylish hatchback. Now I can get a stylish Rio at a lower price, or for slightly more a much more attractive 208, which also has a better made interior. And both options come with 6 airbags. The market has become much more competitive... and Ford responds by increasing the price and downgrading the car.


I'm sure we'll see the same marketing strategy, get sales with those people who care less about the number of airbags. Then when time comes, roll out the "Special Edition" laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 20 2013, 09:06 PM)
Yeah, cause it was the only stylish hatchback. Now I can get a stylish Rio at a lower price, or for slightly more a much more attractive 208, which also has a better made interior. And both options come with 6 airbags. The market has become much more competitive... and Ford responds by increasing the price and downgrading the car.
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dtna7 is right, numbers don't lie, in fact thats what they have look at when planning future products, not sentiments on the forums. The same reason why Toyota and Honda keep giving us poor spec cars despite incessant bashing on the forums. They still sell well, so what if a few disgruntled forumers disagree, 5000 pre-bookings of the new Vios even before launch speaks for itself.

The pre-facelift 2 airbags hatchback trim sold the highest number, so it made business sense to use back that number of airbags and add on a few goodies most Malaysians care most - keyless entry and start stop, puddle lights, Selectshift, auto climate / wipers / headlamps, Ford SYNC etc. etc.

Ford probably figured it worked for Toyota, why not them. I hope the market proves them wrong, I was originally convinced that they would put 7 airbags across all trims. How disappointing.

As for attractiveness, the rims on the facelift is really horrific. Somehow they reminds me of Viva rims doh.gif

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post Oct 21 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 21 2013, 11:48 AM)
dtna7 is right, numbers don't lie, in fact thats what they have look at when planning future products, not sentiments on the forums. The same reason why Toyota and Honda keep giving us poor spec cars despite incessant bashing on the forums. They still sell well, so what if a few disgruntled forumers disagree, 5000 pre-bookings of the new Vios even before launch speaks for itself.

The pre-facelift 2 airbags hatchback trim sold the highest number, so it made business sense to use back that number of airbags and add on a few goodies most Malaysians care most - keyless entry and start stop, puddle lights, Selectshift, auto climate / wipers / headlamps, Ford SYNC etc. etc.

Ford probably figured it worked for Toyota, why not them. I hope the market proves them wrong, I was originally convinced that they would put 7 airbags across all trims. How disappointing.

As for attractiveness, the rims on the facelift is really horrific. Somehow they reminds me of Viva rims  doh.gif

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so what is your verdict on the upcoming promotion or sales by Ford Malaysia biggrin.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(leaF @ Oct 21 2013, 02:14 PM)
so what is your verdict on the upcoming promotion or sales by Ford Malaysia  biggrin.gif
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New car, no promo I think.
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post Oct 21 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 21 2013, 02:43 PM)
New car, no promo I think.
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in dilemma whether i should take the 2nd hand or new one.. still waiting ecoboost version to enter here but I heard is not cheap. do you own a ford fiesta ?
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post Oct 21 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(leaF @ Oct 21 2013, 05:05 PM)
in dilemma whether i should take the 2nd hand or new one.. still waiting ecoboost version to enter here but I heard is not cheap. do you own a ford fiesta ?
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It's best you wait for the 1.0l Ecoboost or take the pre-facelifted Fofi. I don't think the current one is worth it, if the 1.0 is coming next year. Just the engine itself would get you thinking twice.

If I would predict a price, I would say that the 1.0l Ecoboost would be priced somewhere around the RM94k - 100k region as the current outgoing one is priced at RM87k.
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QUOTE(deladela @ Oct 21 2013, 06:26 PM)
It's best you wait for the 1.0l Ecoboost or take the pre-facelifted Fofi. I don't think the current one is worth it, if the 1.0 is coming next year. Just the engine itself would get you thinking twice.

If I would predict a price, I would say that the 1.0l Ecoboost would be priced somewhere around the RM94k - 100k region as the current outgoing one is priced at RM87k.
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I don't think the current one is going anywhere. The 1.0 will be the range topper, and might have all the airbags etc. Seems to me like they want to differentiate.

The numbers told Toyota that Camry buyers don't care about ESP. Well... Then why did Toyota made it standard on all Camrys after less than a year?
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 21 2013, 06:33 PM)
I don't think the current one is going anywhere. The 1.0 will be the range topper, and might have all the airbags etc. Seems to me like they want to differentiate.

The numbers told Toyota that Camry buyers don't care about ESP. Well... Then why did Toyota made it standard on all Camrys after less than a year?
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Well I meant that the 1.0l Ecoboost will be introduced alongside the current 1.5l variant, like you said the top of the range model.

I won't comment much on the Camry but isnt introducing the VSC after less than a year supposedly due to pressure, contradicting when they released the 2013 Vios without VSC? blink.gif

As for the Fofi, it's SDAC's marketing strategy like I said in my earlier post. The 1.0l and maybe a SE model will get the 7 airbags and added goodies as well. Similar to the pre-facelift of S (2 airbags) and XTR or Beta (7 Airbags). sweat.gif
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(leaF @ Oct 21 2013, 05:05 PM)
in dilemma whether i should take the 2nd hand or new one.. still waiting ecoboost version to enter here but I heard is not cheap. do you own a ford fiesta ?
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Don't take a used Fiesta unless it still has warranty, and even then think long and hard. Unlike Proton and Toyota, not every workshop knows Ford cars well, and Fiesta parts isn't something that's easy to find outside of SDAC, nor is it cheap.

For example, the clutch pack costs RM5k++ to replace with SDAC, and you have to wait for parts. I don't think any bawah pokok workshop knows how to replace and calibrate it.


QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 21 2013, 06:33 PM)
The numbers told Toyota that Camry buyers don't care about ESP. Well... Then why did Toyota made it standard on all Camrys after less than a year?
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Probably not long after launching the numbers told Toyota otherwise brows.gif Which is what I hope will happen to Ford
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post Oct 21 2013, 11:16 PM

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You never know what you had until you've lost it.

Yes, they made surveys and all (or just looked at sales figures), but those can be deceiving or maybe a case of wrong question asked. "What features are you looking for when buying a new car?" or "What features of the Camry do you care about the most?" will give a different result than "Would you mind if we remove ESP?". Will people say they bought the Camry cause it has aircon? I don't think so. Will they want the car if it doesn't have aircon?

And yeah, I hope numbers tell Ford now that that was a bad move.

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