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post Oct 20 2010, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(billygoh @ Oct 20 2010, 08:32 PM)
Sony Ericsson, Apple iphone, etc
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You're not giving much info, like specific device. Some old phones might not have the mandatory click sound.
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ranger..our phone have 1 or 2 year warranty?

notice penutup hdmi crack a little
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post Oct 20 2010, 08:39 PM

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Nokia "Just Follow The Law" lor tongue.gif
ven Silent also got shutter sound smile.gif
that's a tradition since S60v3 smile.gif
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Oct 20 2010, 08:23 PM)
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nobody respond to my photo cry.gif
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QUOTE(jananan @ Oct 20 2010, 08:35 PM)
also, since there is hdmi video output, is there still standard video output using the normal 3.5mm jack ?
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I saw the option to have video output at the 3.5mm jack, but I have not tried it.
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QUOTE(jananan @ Oct 20 2010, 08:35 PM)
guys,

i wanna check something...

since the N8 only has one speaker at the back, when you put it in your pocket, and the speaker is closed by a thick jeans for e.g. can you still hear it ring ?

my friend wants to buy the N8 but he is worried about this fact.

also, since there is hdmi video output, is there still standard video output using the normal 3.5mm jack ?
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It will be effected even u put on the table the volume is less loud


Added on October 20, 2010, 8:42 pm
QUOTE(jananan @ Oct 20 2010, 08:35 PM)
guys,

i wanna check something...

since the N8 only has one speaker at the back, when you put it in your pocket, and the speaker is closed by a thick jeans for e.g. can you still hear it ring ?

my friend wants to buy the N8 but he is worried about this fact.

also, since there is hdmi video output, is there still standard video output using the normal 3.5mm jack ?
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There is 1 3.5mm port and also a HDMI port

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 20 2010, 08:42 PM
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post Oct 20 2010, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(jananan @ Oct 20 2010, 08:35 PM)
guys,

i wanna check something...

since the N8 only has one speaker at the back, when you put it in your pocket, and the speaker is closed by a thick jeans for e.g. can you still hear it ring ?

my friend wants to buy the N8 but he is worried about this fact.

also, since there is hdmi video output, is there still standard video output using the normal 3.5mm jack ?
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Dun worry, most Nokia speakers are loud, reallly loud that i wont out ringtone volume over 80%. Activate vibration also la haiz. doh.gif Another idea, the music u use as ringtone, use format converter convert - you can maintain the same format but increase the aimplitude percentage (louder). That means, the same song, when you put same volume at 40%, for example, the increased amplitude one is louder. Usually a fuss like this is unneccessary - it is loud enuf.


Added on October 20, 2010, 8:44 pm
QUOTE(hengguowei @ Oct 20 2010, 08:41 PM)
nobody respond to my photo cry.gif
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Those chemistry stuff... rclxub.gif I hate it, and glad i dun have to study about it anymore, so, i din reply loh. Haha sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:42 PM)
It will be effected even u put on the table the volume is less loud


Added on October 20, 2010, 8:42 pm

There is 1 3.5mm port and also a HDMI port
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can it video-output thru 3.5mm?..go try with the N900 cable smile.gif
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Oct 20 2010, 08:45 PM)
can it video-output thru 3.5mm?..go try with the N900 cable smile.gif
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wait i go try eating now
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Oct 20 2010, 08:45 PM)
can it video-output thru 3.5mm?..go try with the N900 cable smile.gif
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Was told you can... too bad my N8 in ICU cry.gif

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Oct 20 2010, 08:38 PM)
You're not giving much info, like specific device. Some old phones might not have the mandatory click sound.
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if you want me to list out ALL the SE phones, i can't help you in that.
but based on my previous owned SE phone, SE K300, K770 and my friend's SATIO.. Those phones do not have camera sound when in silent mode.
And now i'm using Iphone 3G, it does not have camera sound as well.

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post Oct 20 2010, 08:53 PM

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My Nokia N8 Review

Just a humble review

Homescreen

The new home screen is very nicely put together with some very nice features. The default all-in-one reminder for calls, smses etc is a really helpful one. Each page allows a maximum of 6 rows of widgets and you can either select a full row widget or 4 shortcuts. There's even an option to turn off the data usage for these widgets.

Multi-tasking preview looks good rite? Not all the time. I would say 2 out of 5 times when I actually get into multi-tasking preview, it will show just MENU, WEB ETC with no preview at all. There's more work needed in this app.

Complaint : I really not fancy of those webtv stuffs, therefore those widgets is pretty close to useless to me, ontop of being a battery eater for always looking for data to update itself. With the exception of Facebook widget which is scrollable, others were pretty much useless and only show a few words. Perhaps there is a need for more flexibility to the widgets like half/full page mode and the ability to insert empty space into the 4shortcuts widget instead of the mandatory four when you just want an extra only.

User Interface

Once you get into the menu, nothing much changed except the side bar has been relocated down to the bottom in landscape mode. You probably feel a little disappointed. However, they do make it up with slight changes with user interaction to the touch screen. I really like that they implement this HOLD-and-SELECT thing, which really minimise the overall movement you need to do, in comparison with S60V5. They also fix the annoying problem with the MENU ORGANIZER whenever you start moving apps from folder to folder. It no longer jump to the destination folder like it did in S60V5.

Contacts, SMS

Contacts remains the same but with the added Facebook connection to each contact. The best tweak is the inclusion of alphabetical scroll when you scroll with the scrollbar. You can even get to Contact from Keypad now, awesome.

With the SMSes, you get the usual SMS app plus a conversation mode SMS app. I still prefer the usual one as I usually delete spam messages quite frequently and only saves those that are relevant BUT is a pretty nice app nonetheless.

Complaints : The kinetic scrolling really sucks here... It was like a turtle crawling. It was saved by the alphabetical scrolling but what a mess. Even so, the default mode which shows the contact's number is lagging to show up.

Browser

The loading time is pretty good and it even plays GIF animation which is a plus. It now support Flash Lite and works better than the stock Flash Lite on my Legend too. It seem pretty faultless until you zoom it with pinch and zoom or double tap as usual. There appear to be simple rendering error or just simply the font is too big to accomodate itself suddenly.

But I do really encounter a strange thing with it. What happen was if I didnt close the web, and lock the phone the by side-lock, the 3G connection still goes on and my phone went from full bar (maybe not 100%, 90% or so) to just 30% when I realised it 1hr+ later.

Complaints : KS sucks again here when in ZOOM mode. The browser was not very good at picking up CLICKS, which is perhaps a different variation of programming. On a normal webpage with huge button for SELECTION, this was not a problem. However, it was most apparent in forum like LYN. Moreover, there is a keyboard bug with the browser. Double space when you press space once which inturn also make auto-cap after fullstop non-existent. Still no fit-text-to-width implemented.

Sometimes the 3G connection will hang and not responding. How to fix? Need to disconnect the 3G and let it reconnect again.

The downloads stop when you switching to other app like MENU... What was that for?

Multimedia

I think I do not need to say much here. Classy GPU providing acceleration for both games and HD video (yeah, HD is possible, I learned something new). The camera even more so classy with its BIG sensor producing breath-taking photos and videos. There's an option to upload them to Fb as well which is nice (although FB compress pic so much).

Coverflow animation is nice too, but I had to say not my cup of tea. I really dont organise my mp3 much. But the headphone is slightly underpower perhaps? It plays quite awfully with mylar1b and I had to use a headamp to compensate for it. 5800 had much better output if my mind serve me well.

Complaints : Just one, FAT32 limitation. Not your fault but Im hoping that you could possibly design/code your own 64bit file system to satisfy us? Or at least include movie splitter in your Ovi Suite?

Keyboard

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DONT GIVE US A POTRAIT KEYBOARD???? WHY~~~~???? (Oh yeah, Glen reminded me there will be Swype, thanks you... but I never like them even with Android)

OK, I have to admit I really cant shake this off in a matter of days. I never really like them at all, those keypad. Why? If I type wrong spelling with the keyboard, and still continue typing, it will offer a suggestion. But if Im with the keypad, straight away it will come up with a ? and ask me what I want and cant goes any further (I will just be honest here and what I was trying to spell was satellite and I was going satte, which the both keyboard and keypad dont understand but if I continue with 'lite' on the keyboard, it will suggest satellite). Ultimately I have to force myself to rotate the phone especially when Im using the browser. And I have to be content with the double space bug. And I had to be content with the even worse scrolling in landscape mode.

Anyway, there's credit where its due. There is an option to make the word suggestion become default and your wrong spelling become suggestion.. which means you can just continue with your space instead of having to move your hand over to choose the suggestion.

Battery

I usually dont comment on this but I start my phone at 8am and even with little usage, it gets to about 30-40% by noon. I mean, I thought Android is worse and I had even more widgets which rely on internet connection but its not even this bad.

Overall Impression

In this, I had to include some comparison with my current phone. I wished I could had Desire and it play the 720P just fine, it had full flash, much better gaming, but no, all I got is a Legend.

So, the gaming and video playback is not really comparable to N8, and with the N8 taking such beautiful pics/videos, it would be stupid to say Im not tempted.

However, there is just too much to take for me right now. It will be much easier to read in point form.

1) Battery life is nowhere as poor as N8 even with 3G always on.
2) N8 widgets is really not much of use except FB.. Legend has much better widgets.
3) Browser, I dont even want to compare them... just annoying on N8
4) Keyboard, in landscape and portrait, but what makes it fun to use is the automatic word completion. Type a few characters and if the suggestion is correct, just type space and viola... With N8, you had to move your hand over to choose the word or continue typing till it finish.
5) Contact and Call (Keypad) integration... type a few number or character using the keypad and it will offer suggestion on the keypad based on your contact, no such option in N8. The scrolling bug in N8 on top of that.

P.S. Will you let N8 keyboard designer know that he sucks... the BACKSPACE key is in the position of ENTER key in QWERTY and without color to better distinguish them... it sucks.


Hard to choose... but for me, I had to say Legend...

It feels really cool showing the pic/video quality to others, it feels really cool showing the HD video, and the good looking games.

But thats not what I do daily, what I cant live without is Internet for even a day. Do let me know if Nokia released an updated firmware to address some of these problems. I will re-evaluate them of course.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:51 PM)
Was told you can... too bad my N8 in ICU  cry.gif
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hahah...ICU...what happen?
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:51 PM)
Was told you can... too bad my N8 in ICU  cry.gif
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Just tested plug in to the TV using the 3.5mm with Nokia N900 cable it works
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:56 PM)
Just tested plug in to the TV using the 3.5mm with Nokia N900 cable it works
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New Camera Quality & Sound Mods, below the changelog:

modify from hyperX camera mod:

old changes:
1. video 864x480 change 25FPS to 30FPS
2. photo quality: high quality change from 85 to 100
3. photo quality: mid quality change from 75 to 85
4. photo quality: low quality change from 60 to 75
5. photo estimate size update to reflect more accurate file size
6. photo capture profiles update, remove 1152x864 profile from low/mid quality, included 4000x2248 and 4000x3000 profile into low/mid quality.

new changes:
1. Disable camera focus/shutter sound when silent profile or warning tone off selected

Installation Steps:
1. Download the attached .zip
2. Extract the zip file
3. Sign the .sis it with your own cert
4. Install and have fun!! icon_rolleyes.gif

Please take note, after the mods installed it will remain after it's uninstall!!! the original setting won't be restore back after uninstall!!!

Camera Mode.zip

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!


So, even after uninstalling the MOD, the settings will remain the same, am I correct? To get the original settings on the phone, we have to reformat the phone?
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post Oct 20 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(billygoh @ Oct 20 2010, 08:52 PM)
if you want me to list out ALL the SE phones, i can't help you in that.
but based on my previous owned SE phone, SE K300, K770 and my friend's SATIO.. Those phones do not have camera sound when in silent mode.
And now i'm using Iphone 3G, it does not have camera sound as well.
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Well its hard to pin point which phone will implement this mandatory feature. Also, it could be this mandatory silent have not yet come to full effect, at least for the Malaysia market.

Take a look at the Japanese iPhone 3GS, it already features the mandatory silent mode.

http://nobi.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/available-only.html


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QUOTE(apecx92 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:38 PM)
ranger..our phone have 1 or 2 year warranty?forget lerr

notice penutup hdmi crack a little
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anyone?
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Oct 20 2010, 09:17 PM)
Well its hard to pin point which phone will implement this mandatory feature. Also, it could be this mandatory silent have not yet come to full effect, at least for the Malaysia market.

Take a look at the Japanese iPhone 3GS, it already features the mandatory silent mode.

http://nobi.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/available-only.html
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for sure need silent mode for japanese, there are hentai king mah...smile.gif
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QUOTE(rahuldave @ Oct 20 2010, 09:09 PM)
So, even after uninstalling the MOD, the settings will remain the same, am I correct? To get the original settings on the phone, we have to reformat the phone?
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hehe... later lah... i will make another mods to restore the original file back... whistling.gif

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