Hi guys, has anyone come across the development at Taman Putra Prima by Plenitude Berhad? It's located slightly further up from Taman Tasik Prima, built on ex-plantation land and Freehold. The one I'm looking at is phase 8b the one near the new shop lot, you can see it just along the road heading to taman mas. Design is pretty modern and seems like selling very well too. Previously was looking at cascadia townhouse at Taman Tasik Prima, design not bad too. Appreciate if someone can share with me your point of view about Taman Putra Prima vs. Taman Tasik Prima in terms of appreciation value between this two area. Many thanks

Taman Putra Prima is Freehold but ex-mining land (if you mine), most salesman will deny it, but you can tell by looking at the googles, and it is a pretty flat land since it is filled up. it can link to Puchong Prima, where the bank and future LRT is located. considering the hot property blooming right now, both will also appreciates over time, i am considering this both also but i am now more to 16 sierra since the area is in hot development with puchong gateway, nearby jusco, giant, future tesco and future IOI resort city and nearby tmn equine where all the shop is ofcourse downside is it it more inside toward cyberjaya, but i think this is where all the future development will go, when puchong land is getting lesser in future. but have to pay under contruction interest, and no freebies, only free S&P legal fees, so still think think think........

I heard about 16 Sierra as well, just that I feel it's kind of pricey for the location which is further up from Puchong, not to forget it's Leasehold? The garden theme is indeed attractive, but I guess it will take sometimes before we can see all the beautiful garden. That's one thing good about buying from a well known developer, because they will spend whatever effort to beautify the landscaping so that we will unconsciously focus more on the aesthetic expect rather than the distance and it's location. Price wise is pretty much on premium side as well.

As for Taman Putra Prima, the only let down i would say is the surrounding. The 2 storey house design is modern and beautiful, but I guess the developer should put more effort to beautify the area maybe put serious consideration on the landscaping part or a nice entrance statement, I don't think we are asking too much here as it will be a win win situation for both party as a consumer who pay premium for the product and developer able to attract more potential buyer quicker. One thing I've observed is that all well known project put a lot of attention towards landscaping like Setia Eco park, setia alam, kemuning utama as well as most development by sime Darby. All those property r selling like hot cakes and sold out within days.

South Puchong (Putra Prima and Tasik Prima included) is becoming more desirable nowadays with the completion of SSP2-Nusaputra interchange (see map below - circled in red). Journey to Kuala Lumpur is a mere 15-20 minutes via the MEX highway. Furthermore, proximity to Cyberjaya is a plus point now as the place is expected to boom in the years to come. Happy property hunting!



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This post has been edited by MO1: Oct 17 2010, 02:26 PM

ya, there is pros n cons for all this 3 area, tmn putra prima, taman tasik prima and 16 sierra, if you are more for own stay, i guess nothing better than your own instinct. i still remember 3 yrs back when i go see a show unit at tmn putra prima, 18 x 65 is selling something like 176k!! now a new launching is easily go above 400k with modern design, as i am saiding, it did appreciates over time, just go for the good. As an investor , i will consider which one will give me Max return in future.

Let's hope The Wharf will bring up the hype for this two area.

yap, hopefully, so where are you going to get now? i am now more to 16 sierra or tmn tasik prima, 16 sierra have to come out lotsa money since nothing free except SPA, whereas TTP just the 5% dp, very attractive indeed.

Yeah, that’s one of the downside buying from an established developer, alot of times they don’t give any earlybird discount, because they know it’s going to sell well even they don’t give any early bird discount. The plus point is that you get peace of mind when buying from an established developer. I was in Bandar Botanic sales gallery last week, just to register myself to received future new launches by Gamuda. They mentioned there will be a new phase launching somewhere end of the year, so I ask them normaly what sort of earlybird discount they offer, the sales person smile and told me not to expect so much for any earlybird discount because there will be none. Their previous phase of Bandar Botanic did not gave any discount and yet sold out within half day. So now I see the point why some developer don’t bother to give any discount at all. One of the banker also told me that sometimes, it’s also not a good sign when a developer offer too many discount, one of the reason might be the developer knows that it’s hard to sell so the only ways is to give discount, discount and discount.

For me I’m not sure yet, I heard 16 Sierra almost soldout and it’s out of my budget. So will most probably short-list Taman Putra Prima and Taman Tasik Prima. Will have to discuss with my partner see which she likes. So you totaly let go Taman Tasik Prima? or you have place a booking there? Heard there are launching Phase 3 Cascadia Townhouse.

ya, i guess so, their attitude is like take it or leave it, if it doesnt sell well also, they still have the holding power. btw, 16 sierra is no way sold out, still lot units available, think atleast 60-70% of the total units, i have to let go it since don't want putting to much money on it.

Not worth to get leasehold house for sure. So it want to choose Tasik Prima to Putra Prima, will choose Putra Prima without have to consider.

i am before a freehold supporter also, but when i found out lease hold house price is indeed appreciates like freehold, some higher even. So now , i am more concern about location and the future development of the area instead.

Yes the price for leasehold is almost equal to freehold, because property sector is blooming drastically now it doesn't matter it's leasehold or freehold as long the house is in good shape it will appreciate. But of course if there is a choice between freehold n leasehold ofcoz will still go for freehold.

nothing wrong with it, i am staying in a freehold land also

Leasehold property value will not grow like freehold when you see it long term. The value might even drop when the lease becomes shorter and shorter.

u r right regard leasehold property when it come to shorter period, that's y some ppls buy it not for own stay like 10-20 yrs, but buy for investment.

I have checked with MP Sepang that the freehold lands belongs to Plenitude Berhad are ex oil plantation land. This includes the latest development for 8B. And this is the reason why it's freehold.

If you are asking me to buy a leasehold property at 600K, I would not consider as in the long run, it does not appreciate that much. And, when the lease expires, we do not know what will happen (at the moment we don't know).

I will purchase the Taman Putra Prima if I were you, though both property prices are almost the same. Mind you, there is only 2 units in 8B for type B (selling for 518K) and 13 units for type A.

I stayed in Taman Mas since 2004. During then, there was a big mining pond there (though I do not know where is phase 8B etc, but the mining pond is along the way towards Tmn Mas, on your left, using the main road, where there are new built houses still under construction now). The whole plot of land was ex-mining pond.

After the area was being reclaimed and left ideal for some years, the area became a favourite spot for avid remote control plane and helicopter group to fly their aviation gadget there.

After sometime, the area was cordoned-off. Then, after some time, new houses started to mushroom in that plot of land.

I really couldn't understand why the MP Sepang can provide you such an answer saying that it is an ex-oil palm plantation. Maybe the oil palm plantation was before I moved in to Tmn Mas.

I supposed Taman Mas is the housing after Plenitude's area. Correct me if I am wrong. From what I heard, those area near Taman Mas or on the south of Taman Putra Prima, are leasehold and are mining area. So you are right on the area on the left heading to Taman Mas are mining land. As I said I could be wrong on this because I am not too familiar with Puchong area.

If you are heading to Taman Putra Prima from the main road, 8B is just along the main road where you are seeing some development. If you see from the main road, you can see 8A currently. 8B is just beside and near to the main road.

MP Sepang provided me the answer on the land acquired by Plenitude Perhad to build houses such as 8B. These land are freehold and is the ex oil palm plantation, means solid land.

It's a very subjective matter, I mean Freehold or Leasehold. If you are buying Leasehold property for investment, there is a time frame for you to sell the house away in-order to gain profit otherwise, you will not lose money as well just that you don't profit that much as long the land tenure is not too near to expire date. As for Freehold, you can hold on to your land till kingdom comes. if it's too old you either renovate or demolished and rebuilt it. I always have the impression that buying a leasehold house is like borrowing money from bank and rent the house for 99 years ... No offend to leasehold buyer, it's just my way of interpreting between leasehold and freehold. Ofcoz nowadays many Leasehold houses are amazingly beautiful in terms of design which can easily over-shadow the Leasehold title, Cascadia is one of them

Afaik, freehold land is not necessarily safer in perpetuity than leasehold. If the govt wants it back, the owner has no choice but to surrender 'tho the owner gets some form of compensation.
With leasehold land, if the govt wants the land back, it merely witholds the renewal of the lease & no compensation!
But if the govt has no intentions or future purpose earmarked for the land of properties concerned, it usually renews their lease with a nominal fee.
Lending banks however, look at borrowers applying for loans on properties situated on leasehold land as added risk, esp. those nearer their renewal date & so impose some sort of lending restrictions which appears less favourable to freehold properties. Housing consumers & investors are also inevitably influenced by the view that the lenders hold.

If that is the case, we have to base on the aesthetic value of the house or our first impression then.

Buying leasehold property also have to pay more in term of legal fees.

So anyone buying 8B?Mind sharing your thoughts?

Went to MAPEX this afternoon, 2 storey type left 3 unit 2 intermediate 1 facing garden and 1 corner unit. Got to be quick for those who r interested, saw the model of the house quite nice and contemporary. Quite unique concept, though it's 2 storey but when u r inside, u will feel like it's a 2.5 storey house that's what the salesperson told me. Ceiling height for living room is 13ft. Pretty Impressive! Best of all it's FREEHOLD

Wow, sell like hotcake! any other new development u see in MAPEX?

Not much, those new launching are quite a distance away like nilai n rawang. the exhibition is quite small actually, oh ya there's one new launching at USJ 1 call Riverdale, 16 storey condo they also have link house n semi-d but will only launch later. By the way it's Leasehold.

Latest update!

TPP is at Lot 5321& 5322

I read a reply somewhere that these 2 lots origin land is a mining land! But developer said it's a real estate land. This could translate the land originally not a real estated, instead being converted to one.

Please, anyone could confirm?

Thanks for the info bro, i think ther is a tread discussion on the Riverdale here.

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Added on October 25, 2010, 11:15 amwhen i was in TPP many years ago, i remember a agent is showing me a master plan, showing that some phase is mining land some phase is not, but i am not really study it that time, maybe you can try ask and see. but guess what, i believe around that area, incl TPP and TTP a lot of houses is on ex-mining land, but i been living in puchong for 5 yrs, so far i nvr hear house missing or house fall apart case, so even if it is ex-mining land, i think it is still pretty solid with proper claimed.

This post has been edited by Apscen: Oct 25 2010, 11:15 AM

@Apscen
For houses built on the mining land, only time will tell. Or when there are heavy rain non stop for a few days, that's when we know if it's a mining land.

Anyone, appreciate your input on what kind of land is TPP... I have checked with MP Sepang and no one is able to provide me an exact answer. Only those stay nearby knows the previous land origin of TPP.

if you want safe n freehold, around that area, i think your best choice is bukit puchong, closer to highway, 100% ex-plantation land, but no new development so far.

Yeah bukit puchong is 100% X plantation land, it's quite obvious if u have been to bukit puchong, Not as much lake as TTP or TPP. As for TPP, I guess it just happened to sit on estate land, otherwise it will not be Freehold. Don't think land title can just simply change from leasehold to Freehold. Anyway like what Apscen mentioned earlier on, there shouldn't be any problem with ex mining land. If u r buying a landed property, u shouldn't even worry. Don't forget The Wharf will have 3 block of 22 storey high-rise condominium, if there's really problem with ex mining land the developer will definitely first to know and will not proposed any high rise condominium on ex mining land. A good example, the whole Sunway development is built on ex mining land. So does Sunway high end development at The South Quay.

very true, even ioi mall, tesco and the whole stretch of new and old shop office also under ex-mining land, and the new shop office is selling close to 3 mil developer price. we have witness ex-mining land has since transform to golden land.

Any development in mind? if u r planning to own a property in Puchong area or if u r considering either Cascadia or TPP Phase 8B, you gonna be fast coz limited unit left. It's best you drive around that area to get a feel of that area perhaps to Bukit Puchong as well. Naturally your instinct will decide which environment suits you more.

@patmos
I have actually considering to purchase TPP Phase 8B. After considering so many factors, I think I would not want to proceed. Afterall the property market is still very hot in the market, it's time to save up more bullets and wait for the bubble burst.

if you are looking for new landed property in decent location,my opinion is get it as soon as you can, there is lesser and lesser land in klang valley now, for example, development in puchong area has since goes toward cyberjaya direction, d'alphina and 16 sierra double storey tag at 500k++, suria tropika tag at 430k+....if u dun mind sub sales house, there is lot of choice.

The worst scenario i can see is the property market will go stagnant in 5 yrs time, but dun expect it to burst, ppl buying power is up and have lot of reserved money, and investor holding power is also strong, lot of cash rich singaporean is invest in klang valley property now. this kind of ppls will not simply dump their house even if crisis hit again.

if the market will burst, it should has happen when the recent crisis hit the peak on first quarter 2009, where lot of ppl lost their job, some work 3 days, and get a pay cut of 40%, when lot of ppls expect property market to crash, but they dun realized the market is actually slowly climbing up until this recent high. y?? land is lesser, reserved money is healthy, who want to sell it at loss?

just my opinion, those have different thinking can completely ignore it.

I used to think that way too, I mean save up more bullet and invest later. The thing is when me and my partner went for some property launches, we're shock to hear the current prices for property. Property hike way too drastically until there seems like nothing we can afford. Our money or saving can never catch up with the recent property hike, it goes up way too quickly. For 2-Storey link house it's easily cost you Min RM500K for a decent location. Places like Damansara, Putra Heights, Subang are already no way near my budget. Unless I'm looking at places like Rawang, maybe still can find a 250k link house. So me and my partner decide to invest a house instead of earning that little interest from bank. Still, most important thing is choose the one you like la. Don't force if you really have doubt on the location, coz u don't want to end up regret buying an expensive property YET you don't really feel good about the location. Pick somewhere you feel good about it yet fits your budget . It's alot of money not buying Vegetable ... hehe..

@patmos
Thanks for your input. I am buying a property on my own, so I am considering a few factors e.g. area, distance from work, resell value, developer, land origin of the house etc etc... I am not in a hurry to purchase a house at the moment

Which area have you picked at the moment? TPP?

Trust your instinct and buy. The more you think, the more you won't buy.

I HAVE BOOK 1, now looking for a loan...

2.5 storey, tpp, phase 8b..

i miss the early bird , now have to pay for the price

mine is 569k

is it expenisve?

the price is just as what I got for the same property. i think nowadays price for house is really crazily high.
from the sales person update, seems that the current price of the property in Phase 8B is higher, something like 620k with 30k discount if i am not mistaken.

i wasn't sure about the early bird price, but as far as i know, from their blogsite, the launch price was 588k. the 19k was the early bird discount i thought.

TPP Phase 8A is heard the hand over key is by April or May, any one has any unit especially those facing the basket ball field wanna sell please pm me...

I have one unit to let go (Phase 8A, type C), but not facing the basket ball field one. The house is facing south. If anyone is interested, please contact me.



This post has been edited by Lsh28: Feb 28 2011, 07:48 PM

Please PM me if anyone got any unit ( Type A or Type B ) and facing the basket ball field... Thanks!

Hello! Phase 8A type C u are selling the price RM450k is damn expensive!

Got agent called me and is selling only RM398k. It's design is different if compare to type A and B, and type C masterbed room is same level wif other 2 rooms behind.

Pls don't simply raise up the housing price there, and making some ppl really wanna buy a house for own stay but at the end can't afford it.

Haha...everybody think now everywhere is BBB mode....simply put in the price...

I don't know about the plantation land thing, becoz I stay in Tmn Putra Prima but all I know is the plants don't grow very well indicating probably underneath the top layer soil is sand. So I tend to believe that this is an ex-mining area.

Anyhow, beware when you buy from Plenitude becoz got big attitude problem for those who don't know check on phase 4A complaints. The developer use inferior quality stuff all the way or inferior workmanship (I personally believe both).

House only few years paint peeling everywhere walls, fencing, doors, etc. Cracks also everywhere even further evidence that this was probably ex-mining. Roofing tiles that looks like they're going to drop anytime. Tiles that are hollow when rapped.

Many more problems but the forum that was used to highlight this have somehow mysteriously went missing?????

Anyway, caveat emptor, its still your choice.

The Latest Transacted Price for Type A which is facing the basketball field is already RM519K !!
Reason is because it is more quiet compare with those facing the old phase across the road with more car noise.

Thanks hitilo by highlighting all these issues!!! Yeah, we have to think carefully about buying house which is on ex-mining land.
As we can see, many natural disasters happened like big earthquake in Japan now, rain non-stop and causing flood in Johor!
It is very hard to say, after 10 years or 15 years, the houses standing on ex-mining land....

And now the price goreng until so high by the agents and investors....

And now somemore got inferior quality material from developer. Hmm... really hv to think carefully before buy.

Yes, better think carefully and do more research around the area BUT don't take too long to think also because there's limited units left for 2.5-storey (2 storey fully sold) or you will end up buying an over price house from sub sale.

Taman Putra Prima is not a ex-mining lang. I went to MPS land office to check the status and town plan of this area. It is confirm to be a ex-palm oil estate. But "X 2 Residency" new development is confirm to be a ex-mining land and it was be being cover with soil for 13years.

Taman Putra Prima Phase 8A, latest price of sub sale?
Please update.
Thanks.

Interested in this area. Hopefully it is true. Coz I have also heard different views saying its palm oil land and mining land.

Yes it is 100% confirm is not ex-mining land. Anyway ex-mining cannot be free hold land.

This should be very cheap. Summer homes townhouse lelong unit. Re-auction the 5th times now.

No. 46, Jalan Prima 4/4, Taman Tasik Prima
Reserve price🔥🔥RM 380,700🔥🔥
Leasehold
Built up: 1385sqft
Auction: 20-Jun-2018 (Wed)

No taker. Let's make this auction round number 6th.
Wow. Cheaper than ever pricing now.

No. 46, Jalan Prima 4/4, Taman Tasik Prima
Reserve price🔥🔥RM 342,630🔥🔥
Leasehold
Built up: 1385sqft
Auction: End of Jul 18

Understand it is for auction.
Quick question, in case l miss out the info, is this a bumi lot? Thx

Non bumi lot.

Allow me for another question to confirm, the Jalan Prima 4/4 is pointing at Pucong Prima(FH taman). If so, this is phase 4 of the taman and launched at RM19xk (intermediate unit) back in early 2000s.

This is leasehold.
And is a townhouse. Lower portion.

If not mistaken is 3 storey house shared by 2 owner.
1.5 storey each.

Noted. Thx for conforming ..
Then the road should be Jln Tasik Prima 4/4.

Is Summerhomes townhouse.
I think current reserve price is at least 50% below market now.

Just for the record. This auction unit also the same lower portion (ground & 1st floor) but bigger built up size also sold at 465k back in 2017.
Along the same road actually.

Sold at reserve price. Single bidder. But the house is occupied by the ex owner currently. So good luck chasing him out.
Still a cheap price considering last time lelong sold price at 100k more than this pricing.

owww, kesian