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suiteng
post Aug 24 2011, 05:01 PM

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Have a situation here.

Steps :
1. Signed booking form purchasing a sohu with commercial title, RM200k, 500 sqft.
2. Paid booking fee of RM3k and cheque cleared.
3. No panel bank available. Based on developer, panel not finalized yet.

We can only wait while waiting for developer to get a bank panel for loan.

2 months later --
Developer called and said that the design is changed :
- From commercial title change to residential
- From 500sqft changed to 800sqft
- From RM200k changed to RM300k

Now the developer ask me to sign the booking form which is amended using pencil. Ofcoz, I'm not that naive.

Documents I have now :
- Receipt of RM3k booking fees
- Booking form stated initial design

What are my options?

P/S : Forgot to add.
I want the initial design and price ofcoz. Not willing to pay extra for a bigger unit.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Aug 24 2011, 05:04 PM
suiteng
post Aug 26 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Aug 24 2011, 10:37 PM)
Scan and put up a copy of the booking form here. If you worry about privacy you can black out the personal particulars. Just need to read the fine print.  nod.gif
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Here's the original booking form.
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After numerous attempt to get a banker for loan, we managed to check with all the banks and there's no panel being approved for the project.

Then, we received this letter.
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P/S : Note the final paragraph.

Kinda absurd to change the title, size, and price of the property purchased. Unfair to the purchasers.

What are my options? sad.gif

Edit, fresh from the oven. Just received these letter, after reading it doesn't sound good to me... developer ask us to acknowledge the letter to ask the lawyer to prepare fresh S&P with new price. Could you help to elaborate a bit on the terms?
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From what I see, they wanted to appoint a lawyer to draft the S&P with the new price but it require our acknowledgement. Initially, we've already sent a letter to the lawyer to draft S&P based on the original price, not this new price.

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post Aug 28 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Aug 27 2011, 05:54 PM)
suiteng:
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Booking form doesn't stipulate that many terms and conditions as there usually would. What it does represent to you is the unit and price of the property.

It is clear that they don't even have a license and advertising permit for the project. That is why at the moment, even an SPA can't be executed by the parties. It is a mere booking collection exercise most probably done to gauge public's response to the project in mind.

Once you sign the fresh documents you effectively waive all your rights against the developer with regard to the representation made in the first booking form, especially in relation to the unit description and price. So option one would be to agree to such waiver and just execute the documents.

Option two would be to go against the grain and assert for your right to be sold a property befitting the description and price as stated in the booking form. It would be difficult if you're on your own, but if the developer is faced with a class action of perhaps 200-300 purchasers who have placed their bookings and who now feel that they have been misrepresented (coupled with some media publicity) - then perhaps there can be a chance that they would give in and proceed with the initial development plan.

But personally I doubt if that would happen. There must have been a reason why they had to make the change. However, it is not disclosed very much in detail in their letter.

If you want to go for option two - appoint a lawyer and send out a legal notice. Your lawyer would receive a reply from their lawyer - and that reply can shed more light in this matter.

Good luck  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Cool, there's a few purchasers with the same situation. Guess need to appoint a lawyer smile.gif

Thanks for the advice biggrin.gif

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post Aug 29 2011, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Aug 28 2011, 07:27 PM)
Just want to add something.

If you want to take the developer to Court to enforce its promise made via the booking form, what you are going for is called specific performance (SP). In property transactions, SP is a usual remedy to compel a seller to sell the property to the purchaser based on a letter of offer to purchase/SPA. In such cases, it is quite clear cut - the property is defined (usually a completed, tangible property) and the other details are all ironed out properly in the letter of offer/SPA.

In your case, there are not much details in the booking form. What you have is just basically description of the property and the price. You now want to compel the developer to construct a property which fits the description (whatever little stated) in the booking form via an order for SP. There's not tangible property yet, so your SP would be for the developer to construct and thereafter sell to you that particular unit at that particular price, as stated in the booking form.

As far as the law is concerned, SP will only be granted where damages is not an adequate remedy. In the earlier example given, the Court will allow the SP as there is no reason why the seller ought to be allowed to off the hook just by paying damages to the purchaser. The purchaser must be given the right to purchase that particular unit at the agreed price. Damages will not be an adequate remedy in that case, as there is no duplicate for the property which the purchaser can turn to. There is only that one particular unit which has been identified and agreed upon.

In your case, there isn't even a tangible property to begin with. The developer can rebut your case by stating the reasons why the project could not be constructed and sold to you at the initial agreed price and/or description. The explanation through their letter (although vague) would be their point of reference. Probably they did not get their developer's license for that description of property? In that case, it has become impossible for them to continue to construct that property. In such case, SP will not be granted by the Court.

Furthermore, in your case, damages (compensation) could be an adequate remedy. What are your losses so far? A few thousand RM in booking fees? You haven't even appointed a lawyer to draft out the SPA. Even if you had, damages would cover reimbursing you all legal fees paid.

As such, I think that it won't be easy to get an order for SP in your case - even if you get around 200-300 purchasers to kick up a fuss.

Nothing to lose to consult a lawyer though. Just don't end up wasting good money chasing bad money. Make sure that the lawyer has a good battle plan lined up.

Good luck  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for your valuable time to answer my queries. Really headache when dealing with this (I'm not the only one kena).

As SPA fees are borne by developer, the developer had sent a letter to the Lawyer to draft the SPA on the initial price of RM192k (we received the cc letter).
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Legal firm also sent us a letter asking us to sign the SPA.
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While Lawyer is drafting the SPA, the developer haven't obtain a panel bank. So we can't apply for any loan. Since the bank loan agreement legal fees are borne by the developer as well, all we can do is wait. We called up the legal firm and they are aware as well.

After hitting this sales / advertising permit problem, developer ask us to cancel our booking (previously uploaded letter)
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Then, sent the authorization letter to us to acknowledge so that the legal firm can prepare new SPA based on the new price of RM310k.
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I guess that's why the booking fees are held by the legal firm now. If we did not authorize / acknowledge this letter, the legal firm can't proceed with the new SPA right?

My losses.. well, the property - they surely underestimated the price and potential growth, and interest free loan to the developer to "test market". In this case, what kinda damages I can claim besides the booking fees and disbursement? If paksa also they cannot do the property according to agreed specification and price, then I rugi RM310k - RM192k = RM118k.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Aug 29 2011, 02:44 AM
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post Aug 29 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Aug 29 2011, 10:05 AM)
Of course. And it would be highly likely that they will refund your booking fee and close the matter.
You can't claim for RM118k. You can only claim your booking fees and all disbursements/legal fees incurred up to date.
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I can't claim for RM118k but I rugi that amount unless I paksa them do according to the agreed design and price as per booking form right?

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