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LameCouple
post Jan 4 2011, 02:01 PM

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Hi,

Need some advise tongue.gif as first time buying house. Now i am in the process of getting a lawyer for my loan agreement. Unfortunately i cannot use back my S&P lawyer as is not in the bank panel lawyer. Here is the quotaion i get from the lawyer for loan agreement. My loan amount is RM252k.

Facilities Agreement - 2, 214.00
Deed of Assignment - 221.40
Power of Attorney - 221.40

1. Stamp Duty on
a. Facilities Agreement -1, 280.00
b. Deed of Assignment - 40.00
c. Power of Attorney - 40.00
d. Statutory Declaration - 20.00
e. Letter of Offer - 20.00
2. Registration
a.Registration of PA- 50.00
b.Confirmation fees - 50.00
3. Search
a. Bankruptcy - 60.00
b. Title - 120.00
5. Other Charges
a. Affirmation - 50.00
b. Purchase document - 100.00
c. Transport and courier charges - 200.00
d. Telephone, postage and courier charges- 150.00
e. Misc and other charges not specifically mentioned herein - 50.00

Can i ask for discount? hehe

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by LameCouple: Jan 5 2011, 09:32 AM
LameCouple
post Jan 5 2011, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Jan 5 2011, 01:33 PM)
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Legal fees are alright. Only thing is that bankruptcy search ought to be RM12/pax, and stamping of letter of offer is just RM10. Title search is quite pricey at RM120. Perhaps there's two titles?
Thanks dariofoo tongue.gif I had checked with the lawyer on the bankruptcy search, she said is for 4 pax at RM15/pax. 2 for buyer(us) and 2 is for vendor. Sounds reasonable? As for title search...hmm..as far as i know there is only master title...hmm..usually title search pricing is around how much?

Thanks so much rclxms.gif
LameCouple
post Jan 5 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Jan 5 2011, 03:07 PM)
Search is only RM12, not RM15. Tell her ok but you want to see receipt. See whether she goes like this ->  sweat.gif

Search ought to be around RM30-60. Depends on the land office. RM120 is high. Did you check with the lawyer?

Lawyers can only bill you for disbursements actually incurred, i.e for exact sum of expenses incurred. If they mark it up even a bit that is wrong. Some people may think it's just a bit but when you add it all up, it can make a difference.

Up to you.
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Can i ask for receipt for all the disbursements they charged me? tongue.gif

As for land title - hmm..will check with them...is like double of what they charged me...RM60 can eat a decent meal for two..haha

Just wondering, the payment is due upon signing the loan agreement, why not after all the title is transfer i.e i got the keys? hmm.gif
LameCouple
post Jan 5 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Jan 5 2011, 03:26 PM)
Yes you can ask for receipts. They have to give a copy to you. It's just like purchasing groceries, you need to see the receipt to check if you're paying the right price right? If they overcharge you for disbursements, they ought to issue you a refund at the end of the transaction. Unused portion of disbursements must be refunded to you.

Payment of legal fees is upon signing of the S&P or loan documentation, as the case may be. It's common practice.

Some firms accept part payment, but you must settle before the end of the transaction.  nod.gif

Lawyers also scared clients 'cabut' mah  smile.gif

Then they sit in the office the whole day going like this ->  sweat.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Hehe..you are funny la..haha

Btw - for tenancy agreement, do we need a lawyer to do this? What if we rent out a unit without agent help, can we draft our own tenancy agreement and will the agreement valid in any case there is dispute between tenant and owner?


LameCouple
post Jan 7 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Jan 7 2011, 12:41 AM)

You can appoint a lawyer. It doesn't cost much - 25% of monthly rent or RM300, whichever is lower. Disbursements won't cost beyond RM200. You can draft your own tenancy agreement as well. I think the agent can do one for you as well. It would be valid as long as it is duly signed by the parties, witnessed and stamped. No issues there.
Stamped as in stamp duty like those S&P and loan agreement? As for witnesssed - anyone will do right?
Aiks..seem like if i just want to rent out for a year, it seem quite troublesem. Though i can draft my own loan agreement, signed by both parties and maybe withnessed will do.

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