QUOTE(siles1991 @ Apr 9 2011, 03:02 AM)
Still not too late... I'm a nice guy too... now don't want to be a doormat...Sadly... being told a nice guy... but always get the end of the stick
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Enough Whining Already., THIS is why you fail.
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Apr 9 2011, 03:02 AM) Still not too late... I'm a nice guy too... now don't want to be a doormat...Sadly... being told a nice guy... but always get the end of the stick This post has been edited by hairyLGS: Apr 11 2011, 06:21 PM |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 09:18 PM) the problem with personalities like the "nice guy" is that women take advantage of it ... so I'm never surprised when I hear about situations like this and the guy is practically crying because of what she did. So... what happens in the end? Should we even be nice guys even? |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 10:25 PM) you have to learn to accept things up to a certain point. you cannot just follow absolutely everything she says, because then you're sending her the message that she can do whatever she wants and you will just follow. That is like either way its still a death trap...There are some things that you don't want to do or you just cannot accept her request to do something for her ... and you say so. Don't worship the ground she walks on. Feel lucky that she has chosen you, but don't become a doormat just because you think that is what makes her happy. |
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Apr 12 2011, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 10:36 PM) you do what you believe is right for you... why are you worrying so much about what she MIGHT think? you're not a mind-reader, if she has something to say she should say it. Same applies to you. The thing is... she does not say. And it is not worry about what she might think... It is that in the end - its what as guys believe in what is right... but we do not know... "if" its right... The whole point is... how can we tell if you are looking for someone that is unconditional? |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 10:45 PM) those two sentences already contradict each other. You say it's not worrying about what she might think but you don't want to do something she might think is wrong ... you're gonna be one of those little b**** boyfriends aren't you? LOL! No... I wish I could say it... but there is a possibility "she" will stumble here and read it.unfortunately, those are rare. It is just... you can't tell whether there is right or wrong in what one person is doing and in the end... you just wonder - are you being you or be like you said b**** boyfriends... but either way whichever you do... chances are either way, it won't work... And I think... all my life what I believe in... it is just... ended up what can you believe when anything is not right nor wrong? |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 11:02 PM) there's always a right and a wrong, it's just definitions that differ. I think open marriages are wrong, but others think it's grey area or even right. Whoever think Open Marriages are ought to be shot on sight!why would you wonder whether you're being you? are you that far gone into Doormat-dom? I don't think so now... it is just... it would be easy if... she would talk to me straight rather I go figure it out myself. You know... like there are some things not happy about at least just tell me straight away. Or just tell me "this is serious, I need you to know something"... It is just... guys do what they would do to make the other happy... but somehow... they become someone else. When they do things together, they grow together... well, not as doormat entirely... it is just all of a sudden... sudden cut off and that was it. You left with your emotions wondering "what just happen" even though people say you got nothing to lose... but what you lose... was the one you want to spend your life with... This post has been edited by hairyLGS: Apr 12 2011, 11:07 PM |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 11:37 PM) "you have nothing to lose" applies to what you bring to the table in the relationship, not what you lose afterwards trying to make it work. What have you got to lose by getting into a relationship? You gain love, trust, commitment, money is a trivial matter (as long as she's not a gold digger) ... what do you lose really? I might "gain"... but it is also "taken away"...I guess... its part of who I am... the traits of a person... What I lose... is probably someone you can never find again... |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 11:48 PM) I admire people who treat every relationship they get into like it's the last one .. but you have to have your head on your shoulders too. You can't sit and wonder if she was the one and that you'll never find someone like her again, because that is utter bullshit. Well... I do not know if you believe or not... but it happened to me. Something... unexpected happened. It is just the question... not about soulmates but about fate - decisions we make and then all of a sudden... that decision happened to me... unexpectedly. Without a doubt it happened for a reason... its hard to believe it happened... but it did. I don't believe in soulmates, I don't think they exist at all because of the fact that the whole idea is so very selfish. You can be with whoever you want to be, if both sides can love, trust, commit and compromise. It is just the question of... how she and I had it there... and she just wonder but it did happened... like a sign... Anyway... its gone and I can never figure out what that means really... and you are right, both sides can love, trust, commit and compromise... sadly now I did not have that when I was with her. She said she would... but in the end... she is doing it with somebody else... |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 12 2011, 11:55 PM) The same someone told me "its not meant to be"... have to admit, it is beginning to sound true...This is the hard part - moving on. Saying is easy... its just not that easy if doing it... Well... at least being brutally honest is better than trying to give someone false hope. I would rather have brutal honesty... give me a mallet and knock my head and that will give me some senses... You are what you anyway... they do not like your advice, that is their problem. At least you give. In any case, CC has always been... I dunno, for what I remember before I was here, yeah... they are always afraid. If its gone, its gone... for me, if its gone that's okay... I just wish there is closure instead of none... This post has been edited by hairyLGS: Apr 13 2011, 12:04 AM |
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 13 2011, 12:02 AM) this is why I posted the article. People in CC like to call me a b**** who doesn't know what she's talking about (I don't know everything, but I sure know something) and that I'm really harsh with people who start threads in here. Why? I just added mine above... can read that Because if you tell them flowery things about how the other person is wrong and all that, they will NEVER learn! Everybody who has commented in this thread has related somewhat to what has been said and some have even realized the type of person they are and now want to be different than the "nice guys" portrayed in the article! So many of you are afraid of losing your partners ... jealousies abound and people constantly controlling what their partners do just to attempt to eliminate the possibility that their partner might leave them. Why? If they leave you, they weren't worth being with anyway! I know it's difficult for people to see that ... but the main reason why they take such a long time to get over the past is because they keep hanging on to it! |
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QUOTE(Onime-no-Enishi @ Apr 18 2011, 02:36 PM) This part is easy: Ah... thanks.Be Yourself To elaborate, be a human being, not a machine that follows orders absolutely, or be someone who just awkwardly follows at times but doesnt follow at others without a real pattern. If she demands or asks for something, if you like it or dont mind it, do it, if you dont, then dont. Really simple, She will learn your preferences through this and formulate a "human being" in her head of you, same applies vice versa. Do take note, there is a fine line between you want to, you do not mind, and you do not like <== you need to know to differentiate between the 3, most especially between you don't mind and you don't like. You want to be nice? sure, go for it, just always keep this in mind: If you are being 'nice' by doing something you do not like, stop for a moment and think, would you like to do this for the next 10 years or so? if not, and you're still 'doormatting' your way around her, you're doing something wrong. <=== im not saying that if she asks you to do something and you feel lazy to do it, you should just turn her down all the time; Its more of a balance than anything else; but what most 'nice guys' tend to fall for is over-commitment which gives the 'doormat' image. Obviously there are always exceptions to any rule, you're old enough to make your own decisions, so everything is up to you in the end =p I know what you mean. And thank you. |
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