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 ❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Official Owners/Fan Thread ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT | dem fast dem furious

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rewlie
post Nov 12 2010, 04:51 PM

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Hello,

I am a Lancer GT owner, but i dont feel butthurt because i am not selling my car, I love it the way it is, only the owner knows really how the car is, and mine is grey color btw, hehe..

Just wanna share the difference here with Lancer - based on GT, 2.0 variant;

New features;

1. Anti Trap window
2. Rain sensor
3. Light sensor
4. Auto cruise

Difference;

1. Inspira 16" rim / Lancer 18" rim
2. Inspira 15" disk brake / Lancer 16" rim
3. Inspira instrument cluster, RPM left, Speed Right / Lancer instrument cluster RPM right, Speed left
4. Bumper different, steering logo, engine cover, logo also - this one everyone know la
5. Inspira mini spoiler / Lancer big spoiler
6. Inspira torque 197, kW 110 / Lancer torque 199, kW 114 - i guess this one different ECU map
7. CVT cooler placement - Proton claim improve this one, so let see first during 6 months time on real usage whether got same "warning" like rest of us or not, i myself never get the warning based on stock CVT cooler.
8. Inspira Lotus handling / Lancer Mitsu Handling - but now on Inspira website, stated there Proton ride and handling, so which one is true?
9. Inspira color Red, Black, Silver, White except GREY / Lancer all have

Personally i feel that Inspira more to comfort ride, while Lancer GT more to sporty ride, and i would love to have those new addon in my Lancer soon, hehe, sure cheaper.. Mitsu selling that stupid auto-cruise button for RM500, huhu.

Advise to new Inspira owner, beware of the maintenance especially major service, what's more if it's involve CVT, it is not cheap, trust me.

Cheers!

This post has been edited by rewlie: Nov 12 2010, 04:54 PM
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post Nov 12 2010, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Nov 12 2010, 04:54 PM)
Thanks! can shed some light on the CVT maintenance?
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CVT is fragile, if u drive aggressively and got the "warning", means ur CVT oil boiled edi, u need to flush, cost is about RM700 if im not mistaken, and not advisable to BOT, it can crack easily, mild performance upgrade is OK, but not BOT.

I'm not sure how frequent your CVT service based on your service manual, might be different interval with us, but when the time comes and if you dont have free svc coupon, be ready.

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post Nov 12 2010, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Nov 12 2010, 05:15 PM)
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i don't think i have that higher up of a friend la

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wow..

really informative..

but didn't know it was that fragile though. But just curious, is it under warranty if "accidentally" drived aggresively ?

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If kaput, yes under warranty, if "warning" appears and you have to flush your CVT oil, that is on your own expenses.

QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 12 2010, 05:21 PM)
when you mean aggressive... meaning how?
say if going up genting?

cos i too have a city VTEC... CVT also...
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Aggressive, can say also la go up genting, rapid shifting using paddles, night still no problem since colder air, daylight beware, hot gearbox together with hot malaysia air.
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post Nov 12 2010, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 12 2010, 06:23 PM)
hmm... bad news cos City don't have warning indicator... kaput half way also don't know... seems like i have no choice but to go for Vios... kepala pusing... rclxub.gif
RM3.5k more can get inspira... a bit wasted like that... nemind... wait 6 months see what happens first...

but ar... you mentioned paddle shifts... if i don't use also same problem right? cos auto gear shifts mar?
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Use paddle gearbox get hot quicker, if using D mode only but prolong top speed drive together with hot air, also can get the warning.. even Evo X with SST also got this problem on tracks, i love Lancer with sticks but unfortunately blind and deaf MMM / MMC dont care about our niche demand, only bring in Lancer with CVT, few years down the road i would love to see my Lancer coupled together with 1.8 Manual gearbox smile.gif

4B11 with CVT is good for fuel saving, occasional spirited driving only, not for performance head, performance head i suggest go for 1.8 Manual, lots of potential there, yummy.
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post Nov 12 2010, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 12 2010, 06:33 PM)
fully agree with occasional sprinting... does the lancer have that rubber band effect?
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For stock standard in D mode, yes we do.
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post Nov 12 2010, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(zoomckng @ Nov 12 2010, 07:44 PM)
yea i think u scared some other forumers saying central locking does not work on a new car this decade smile.gif

the feature u looking for is auto lock when brake/handbrake is dis-engaged. or when re-engaged
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No autolock definitely, same as Lancer, you have to do extra wiring for that, any accessories shop can do.
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post Nov 12 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sarguna @ Nov 12 2010, 07:57 PM)
i still don't get it so when you driving the the central lock does not auto lock huh....or is it like my previous statemnet
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Yes, not by rpm or brake switch, extra wiring required.

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post Nov 12 2010, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Sarguna @ Nov 12 2010, 08:03 PM)
Did you do it? was it costly?
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Yeah, i did, just 100++ only

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post Nov 12 2010, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Sarguna @ Nov 12 2010, 08:20 PM)
warranty got void or anything
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Warranty depends lah, if you absorber kaput they cannot blame wiring one of course, if your ECU kaput due to short circuit then they can blame it lah, find the correct shop to do it.

QUOTE(zuladha @ Nov 12 2010, 08:36 PM)
Tq bro for good advice
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Your welkem.

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post Nov 12 2010, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(jychow @ Nov 12 2010, 09:53 PM)
Just to share a few pictures of its interior. I think there are lots of exterior pictures already.

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Bro, may i ask, your paddle shift is made from alloy or plastic?
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post Nov 12 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 12 2010, 11:09 PM)
initially i didn't like it... felt like the car not that responsive... but after swapping and driving my dad's 1.5 carburator with the City... still felt that CVT was slightly better but can never match the Golf GTI's DSG... haih... dream car...

nemind, find one day go test drive the inspira 1.8 cvt tongue.gif
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Cannot compare la with Golf GTI, that one twin-charge somemore, it's different class already, this is NA bro, hehe
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post Nov 14 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(jychow @ Nov 13 2010, 08:53 AM)
I've to provide some explanations to the issue of central locking as I was d one who mentioned about it in one of the earlier post.

It has keyless entry and central locking mechanism. I used the key to lock and arm my car when I left. I enter it with button on my key to disarm and unlock the doors, all 4 of them.

What it didn't have: when I drive the car, it doesn't lock itself automatically with either brake or rpm mechanism. I've to lock it myself after I enter the car.

I hope I made it clear enough. Don't want to cause any unnecessary confusions here. I love  my Inspira. :-)
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Bro, need to correct something here, you dont have keyless entry, it's key entry, keyless entry means you have exactly no key, just a remote with start button inside your car, once you near you car, car will automatically unlock due to unique signal detected from keyless remote, and it will lock automatically once you go far away. With keyless entry, you just need to stick the remote at keyhole there, and push the start button, not key in the key, and turn it to initiate startup.

It has central lock, but not autolock. It will not lock automatically either by RPM or speed.

QUOTE(Sarguna @ Nov 13 2010, 09:19 AM)
when you drive time the doors auto lock
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QUOTE(coolster @ Nov 13 2010, 10:23 AM)
what i know central locking is you lock your windows, so that your children wont accidentally open up the window and throw out.

You are mistaken with AUTOLOCK which mean it locks all your doors after braking or rpm.

My previous car got Central locking, not Autolock. smile.gif
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Inspira dont have, for good example, Myvi have central lock and autolock as well, autolock engaged by braking.

QUOTE(ckk125 @ Nov 13 2010, 11:58 AM)
regarding the CVT, they added the cooler and diverted more air to it..but i dont think it is an issue(for me at least), unless for those who want to go up to 200kmh..which i'll never do.

ABS on the other hand, i have no idea about it..any info on that?
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You sure you will not drive up to 200kmh? Wait till u enter highway and u will feel 110kmh is damn slow with this car.

QUOTE(ckk125 @ Nov 13 2010, 04:28 PM)
about the ABS sensors..those lancer owners had to change them..not trying to compare, i hv a 2007 idsi honda city, but no such abs sensor problem. rclxub.gif
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Mine is already 2 years old and never have problem with CVT nor ABS sensor, have to say depends on luck.

QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Nov 13 2010, 09:06 PM)
Part are expensive nowadays, and it normal to act funny or spoil after certain years. So be it ABS or gear oil or etc. If it has to be replaced then we dont have a choice, its a part of owing a vehicle. As they say, buying a car is easy but well maintaining it will be difficult.
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Truely agreed with you on this one.

QUOTE(ckk125 @ Nov 13 2010, 11:05 PM)
yea...i was told that the facelifed lancer's ABS issues have been resolved..anyone can confirm?
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QUOTE(tiong @ Nov 13 2010, 11:10 PM)
if u check the sales centre of PE and E

PE
Sales Outlet= 227
Sales Centre = 145

E
Sales Centre=34

Total Sales Outlet/Centre= 406
A total of 406 show room cars are required for each sales outlet/centre.
For test drive, another 406, should be around 812 cars for just sales/marketing purpose if all sales/outlet have 1 test drive car.

If P1 start production on 1 nov, there are only 5 working days before they send out some of those inspira to kuching sat/sun or east coast on monday.

5 x 80 car per day = 400 (not sure whether the production start earlier or not)

So, definitely not enough to send to customer.

If start sending on 20th with same production start date, there's 14 working days.

14 x 80 = 1120 but must send out some for test drive car and need to go through PDI/QA check.. will have different delivery date

based on the news on 25th oct, there's 1500 booking.
Means 10 days except sunday(from 14oct to 25th oct). Average of 150 bookings a day.

1120-812 = 308 cars for customer.

if only 308 cars available for customer, then most likely those who book on 14 and 15 will get the car by 20 something nov onwards.

* the above is a rough estimation on delivery date based on available data from news. Will differs if the p1 policy and production start date and operational days are different.


Added on November 13, 2010, 11:11 pm

if i am not wrong, those ABS issue only happen to the 2007 batch car...new batches no problem.
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Mine is older version, not facelift one, never have problems with ABS.

QUOTE(vexus @ Nov 14 2010, 04:18 PM)
extract from lancer user

Normal service RM300++ engine oil 5 liter accept synthetic only around RM230
major service (40K) RM1300++ CVT oil RM 300++

how true is it?
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That's true.

QUOTE(mosar @ Nov 14 2010, 04:44 PM)
synthetic oils..maybe, mitsu engine have the affinity to work best with synthetic oil, ever since it 4G9x engine series...observe the GTI, Putra & Wira 1.8...cheap oil will cause the loud tappet sound..

however, not too sure about 4B11 though...eventhough all indication heading that way...mind u, other modern engines do this as well...even the ivtec engines makan oil quite significantly, need to check & topup from time to time..

major servicing, wow..that steep...but rm300 for CVT oil does sound realistic...this is the quirks of automatic gearbox, not only on inspira/lancer..but on all car...if maintained properly, it will serve u well..if not..well..u got the idea..
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You will use fully synthetic oil, service interval every 10,000 KM
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post Nov 14 2010, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(teboCanKill @ Nov 14 2010, 06:47 PM)
Guys all the 4B1 engines:

4B10 - Inspira/Fortis/RVR
4B11 - Inspira/Lancer GT
4B11T - EVO 10
4B12 - Lancer GTS 2010 Sportback

essentially are from the same GEMA engine block just using a different piston, compression etc.
That means any stroker kit for the 4B1 engine such a for the 4B11T should be possible to put into the 4B10 correct? Only need to re-bore it  tongue.gif
Damned, a 2.4 manual (4B10) haha and put on bigger injector, a 288 camshaft lol and the LT10S (microtech) mivec controller, awesome  rclxms.gif
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Do you know how much 4B11 stroker kit to convert to 2.4 cost? RM14,000.
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post Nov 14 2010, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 14 2010, 07:27 PM)
Correct term: keyless entry means you have remote unlock feature on the door. Start without key is called keyless start. Most all cars come with keyless entry but not all comes with keyless start.
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Mostly ppl dun use the term keyless entry because it is standard nowadays, unless it is combined together with keyless start.
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post Nov 15 2010, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(bkokyew @ Nov 15 2010, 02:38 PM)
some ppl might don want to take out plastic cover because its a new car and dont want to make it dirty...

but actually the plastic is quite poisonous.. if u sit in the car without opening the window, it might affect ur health.
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Yeah, agreed, plastic that use to wrap item, is the balance of crude oil extracted, when expose to heat, it will release dangerous fume, what's more in confine space.

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post Nov 15 2010, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(sugizo36881 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:50 AM)
Is ok for those ppl to bashing around,  but before they said anything, do they have a good point of view? or just simply said proton is copying instead of re-badge in the sense even proton officially corporate with mitsu again, and your conclusion always ask proton just close down the company because proton always being bash copying the lancer, if so the proton just close down and remove the excise duty tax because of this matter, then it will greatly affect Malaysia economic  then  in the future you will have more hole on the road

of course lancer interior quality is not better than civic or altis, cause if i want to buy a lancer at about rm 120k then i would choose civic instead of lancer, but because proton had re-badge the lancer, with the price they announced is a steal, that why for my opinion inspira is the way to go,and ratyat support Malaysia, cause we are Malaysian
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Everything comes with it's pros and cons, without even you realize, you actually bash Lancer, are you too butthurt?
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Nov 15 2010, 09:51 PM)
I forgot to include in my earlier short review that I find the noise level in the cabin is pretty quiet (I didn't go above 100km/h yet to know how that feels) provided you don't stress the engine for more power but even the noise produced when you floor the pedal is bearable and expected. The road noise is very minimal but you will hardly notice it as its a pleasure to drive.

I asked my SA about the tweeter issue, he said its there and its a 6 way system, so that doubt cleared away too.
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No tweeter for 1.8, that's confirmed, but not sure on 2.0 though.

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post Nov 16 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(coolster @ Nov 16 2010, 10:57 AM)
so we know that lancer is not as good as we think. hear that all butthurt lancer owners?
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You are referring to all which is not fair, some Lancer owner are decent, not all, you based on car, not human itself, what car has to do with their owner behavior? Are you too butthurt because we drive first before you?


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