in the long run some people will still choose either city or vios... not as rich as you guys playing in the C segment range...
FC, maintenance, road tax, tyres, as all definitely higher than B segment... and also not easy to beat the resale value of T and H...

anyway... if rumours are correct... first 1000-2000 units are cbus... after that when local parts comes into play... there starts the headache of parts failing one by one... let's hope they legacy power window failure is solve... if rebadge still having this problem... then i seriously have nothing to say

consumers always have a choice

depreciation is at it's max if sold less than 3 years mar

tell you lar... umph with as japanese cars is almost non-existing, skyline maybe lar... but in general... don't think you can find...

you want umph... test the golf gti
i tested it a few months back and i was like... shit... i must have that! then my wife tambah garam...
"you got 2 choices... buy golf now or buy vios, drive a few years then change to golf!"
not to say i cannot buy now, but no point lar if it involves selling of my investment condo and buy golf with cash...

to me, and it's just me... paying 80k for a local car is... wow... i think only rich people can afford to do that

dude... kindly explain as below are the specs for type R and golf gti, which part is the gti being pawned? check out the revs...
also which weights are you referring to?
type-r
Maximum Horsepower [PS(kW)@rpm] 225 (165)/8,000
Maximum Torque [Nm(kg-m)@rpm] 215 (21.9)/6,100
Curb Weight (kg) 1,270

gti
Max. Output, PS (kW) at rpm 210 (155)/5300-6200
Max. Torque, Nm at rpm 280/1700-5200
Unladen weight (kerb weight) 1414

wow... Why not try smoking some smaller european, say a polo 1.2 or a golf 1.4? that's something to celebrate about, right?

why lar you butthurt?

those who simply bash most probably are proton owners who heard that T/H are better than proton but do not have the luxury of owning them but keep hearing from other people who owns T/H that it's reliable, safe, etc etc... 25 years is a long butthurt time...

sorry, maybe you come from a rich family but i don't... my family never owned anything better than a proton or perodua

naza and perodua started with rebadging and continue rebadging...

proton started with rebadging, failed, and then continue rebadging after 25 years...

different...

actually golf and polo are normal b segment cars but to malaysian... they are like luxury sports cars... wtf this country...

hmmm... tempting price... but add 10k more can get VW Polo 1.2 turbocharged... haih... headache headache

last time i complain saying why proton manufacture cars more expensive than Japan... now proof come out... who the fucuk will buy lanjau in Langkawi/Labuan?

Proton always tipu the rakyat... come out with expensive cars but stupid quality...

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Added on October 21, 2010, 10:33 amgood luck to those who actually fork out that much per month just to buy a proton...

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 21 2010, 10:33 AM

i think people are bashing the product rather than the people who buy the product...

i think buying non national cars boost the economy even further... 300% tax is a lot...

if you think money is hard earned then you will think twice before splurging 80k on a proton... RM900/month can feed a whole family already...

wife is wife, car is car... if a guy can fucuk a car like how he fucuk his wife, i don't want to know

sorry, out of topic

please carry on

i'm a lancer fan, i like the looks of the car

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 21 2010, 05:10 PM

my parents, even my grand parents bashed me when i bought a condo with my gf... then i buy another one when we got married... i can easily sell of my condo and buy a golf gti if (though i wanted it badly, not rational ) i want, now no one has anything to say about my decision, why? because i am on the right track... i pawned then with my actions, i don't even have to say a word

does it really matter what other people say if u believe that your decision is correct?

out of topic again, sorry

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 21 2010, 05:28 PM

anyone have the max power and torque for the 1.8L? till now also no official specs... proton

the 1.8 review macam not that good only...
http://www.carkeys.co.uk/road_tests/mitsub...t_fourdoor.aspx

hope proton don't always tok kok... they need to walk the talk...

let's see how the first batch is...

discount only for white?

discount 2k for solid colour? something wrong leh...

wei... this is speculation or memang they reduce the price... later syok sendiri in the forum only

i think i will cos want to close the shame of not having enough money to buy a real lancer

anyway, prefer the lancer bumper... more aggressive...