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TSradzy82
post Oct 14 2010, 08:40 AM, updated 16y ago

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haha now im thinking of rerolling..to the 'Escorts' guild, im playing priest in dreadmaul..better than pally atm
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:43 AM

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really how the hell they got nerfed!?
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:46 AM

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post Oct 14 2010, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(radzy82 @ Oct 14 2010, 08:40 AM)
haha now im thinking of rerolling..to the 'Escorts' guild, im playing priest in dreadmaul..better than pally atm
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im playing priest in dreadmaul..f*** pala got nerfed


tell me thats not you!!!!! TELL MEE btw srsly i told you so cannot work well at the moment since i keep telling you to reroll butttt no 1 listens D:
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post Oct 14 2010, 09:04 AM

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srsly, have you tried on any dummy before you say it has nerfed?

if you usually hit divine storm when there's only 1 holy power than yeah, it's fubar and nerfed to oblivion

the class has more options (more buttons to press) and outta the contrast 'watafak FoL cost hefty mana, HL heals like chicken sh!t and the new heal is 2.7 sec cast time', do note i have higher heals using words of glory with glyphs and talent points (for pvp survivability laaaa). do remember now paladin relies more heavily on holy spell now and if you think your heal is weak, get a macro up to bind heals together with new skill that buffs holy power temporary: you get a higher heal.

the only stuff i see here is blizz tries to mold paladin into a utility tool rather than a no-brainer, keyboard-mashing 98% of the time by making some changes thru healing: you can heal yourself when healing others, you can heal others to buff up, you can save up holy power when healing others.

TLDR version: learn to play
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post Oct 14 2010, 09:10 AM

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i dont play holy..i agree blizzard wants to make pallies not a ' 3 button skills' class..lack of dps really pissing me off
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post Oct 14 2010, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 14 2010, 09:04 AM)
srsly, have you tried on any dummy before you say it has nerfed?

if you usually hit divine storm when there's only 1 holy power than yeah, it's fubar and nerfed to oblivion

the class has more options (more buttons to press) and outta the contrast 'watafak FoL cost hefty mana, HL heals like chicken sh!t and the new heal is 2.7 sec cast time', do note i have higher heals using words of glory with glyphs and talent points (for pvp survivability laaaa). do remember now paladin relies more heavily on holy spell now and if you think your heal is weak, get a macro up to bind heals together with new skill that buffs holy power temporary: you get a higher heal.

the only stuff i see here is blizz tries to mold paladin into a utility tool rather than a no-brainer, keyboard-mashing 98% of the time by making some changes thru healing: you can heal yourself when healing others, you can heal others to buff up, you can save up holy power when healing others.

TLDR version: learn to play
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Totally agree 100%
people just need relaern and adapt to the changes and personally I feel holy is op atm lol

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post Oct 14 2010, 09:31 AM

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pls dont tell u want to roll holy n leave teh tree..
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post Oct 14 2010, 09:36 AM

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I didn't say that, I got my own holy pally in another server anyway
the new resto Druids are also op ATM too the new aoe talent rocks
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post Oct 14 2010, 09:55 AM

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well basically its a nerf.. and big buff to boomkin.. i usually do around 15k+ dps on icc25hm and 20k+ dps on aoe fight .but now meh want to hit 10k is also hard..
and wtf for boomkin 20k+ dps on Faction Champion while others doing below 10k.... nerf that class laugh.gif laugh.gif

alot of stuff is useless like HTaJ.. even herkumi token is better than HTAJ since CS is main priority and haste coop with CS and GCD
if ppl want to play CP class they would've rather played rogue/feral/dk but not for Ret since its unique with their own FCFS rotation and it take skills to do good dps..

blizz juz make ret boring to play with boring rotation

CS>CS>CS>Zealotry>CS>WOG>CS>TV>CS>TV>CS>TV and so on... juz add Exo / JoL / HW / Cons / HoW while waiting for the CS cd and change TV for DS for AOE

AND LASTLY THE DELAY AFTER SKILLS SUCKS IT SHOULD BE REMOVED!!!

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(novo @ Oct 14 2010, 09:55 AM)
well basically its a nerf.. and big buff to boomkin.. i usually do around 15k+ dps on icc25hm and 20k+ dps on aoe fight .but now meh want to hit 10k is also hard..
and wtf for boomkin 20k+ dps on Faction Champion while others doing below 10k.... nerf that class  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

alot of stuff is useless like HTaJ.. even herkumi token is better than HTAJ since CS is main priority and haste coop with CS and GCD
if ppl want to play CP class they would've rather played rogue/feral/dk but not for Ret since its unique with their own FCFS rotation and it take skills to do good dps..

blizz juz make ret boring to play with boring rotation

CS>CS>CS>Zealotry>CS>WOG>CS>TV>CS>TV>CS>TV and so on... juz add Exo / JoL / HW / Cons / HoW while waiting for the CS cd and change TV for DS for AOE

AND LASTLY THE DELAY AFTER SKILLS SUCKS IT SHOULD BE REMOVED!!!
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there are 2 resources for paladins to manage now, not just 1 blue bars below the health like how it used to. you can't figure out the rotation doesn't mean others can't do that too.

the simplest damage priority would be

judge>cs>exo(proc)>tv/ds(3 holy power)> how(low hp)>cons>hw

how hard is it to get some rotation up?
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post Oct 14 2010, 01:02 PM

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well blizz did mention ret paladin's dps is too low now...
u gotta understand 1 thing, the changes are meant to be balanced at lvl 85, not lvl 80...
but 1 button mage is pwning dps (same as locks)
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post Oct 14 2010, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 14 2010, 01:01 PM)

judge>cs>exo(proc)>tv/ds(3 holy power)> how(low hp)>cons>hw

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if u call that rotation then ur really pro
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post Oct 14 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(novo @ Oct 14 2010, 01:36 PM)
if u call that rotation then ur really pro
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have you found the line that i mentioned as 'damage priority'??

oh, it's on top of the priority list that i mentioned

why duncha just sit down, take a sip of coffee and think about the rotations? i had mine prepared last nite after running pugs on broken macro with just SoJ macro functional on the bar

@evo,

yes, compared to class that has lotsa I.W.I.N. buttons (mages, locks, lazar chicken, log hugger), the dps for current paladin pales when compared to them.

now i need to repractice pvp D:
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post Oct 14 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 14 2010, 09:04 AM)
srsly, have you tried on any dummy before you say it has nerfed?

if you usually hit divine storm when there's only 1 holy power than yeah, it's fubar and nerfed to oblivion

the class has more options (more buttons to press) and outta the contrast 'watafak FoL cost hefty mana, HL heals like chicken sh!t and the new heal is 2.7 sec cast time', do note i have higher heals using words of glory with glyphs and talent points (for pvp survivability laaaa). do remember now paladin relies more heavily on holy spell now and if you think your heal is weak, get a macro up to bind heals together with new skill that buffs holy power temporary: you get a higher heal.

the only stuff i see here is blizz tries to mold paladin into a utility tool rather than a no-brainer, keyboard-mashing 98% of the time by making some changes thru healing: you can heal yourself when healing others, you can heal others to buff up, you can save up holy power when healing others.

TLDR version: learn to play
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f*** me the day has come to an end the world is ending instant just told some one to L2p.....
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post Oct 14 2010, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 14 2010, 01:48 PM)
have you found the line that i mentioned as 'damage priority'??

oh, it's on top of the priority list that i mentioned

why duncha just sit down, take a sip of coffee and think about the rotations? i had mine prepared last nite after running pugs on broken macro with just SoJ macro functional on the bar

@evo,

yes, compared to class that has lotsa I.W.I.N. buttons (mages, locks, lazar chicken, log hugger), the dps for current paladin pales when compared to them.

now i need to repractice pvp D:
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post Oct 14 2010, 02:24 PM

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aeco, lend me patch files pls sad.gif
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post Oct 14 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 14 2010, 01:48 PM)
have you found the line that i mentioned as 'damage priority'??

oh, it's on top of the priority list that i mentioned

why duncha just sit down, take a sip of coffee and think about the rotations? i had mine prepared last nite after running pugs on broken macro with just SoJ macro functional on the bar

@evo,

yes, compared to class that has lotsa I.W.I.N. buttons (mages, locks, lazar chicken, log hugger), the dps for current paladin pales when compared to them.

now i need to repractice pvp D:
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well brotha when in doubt roll your face on teh keyboard.. old saying for blood dk's when they were op might be able to work for you juz try it yo
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post Oct 14 2010, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(raydenex @ Oct 14 2010, 02:24 PM)
aeco, lend me patch files pls sad.gif
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i dun have the patch files...
nt bothered to patch yet...
gonna jz copy paste from autosurf when i start playing
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post Oct 14 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 14 2010, 02:30 PM)
i dun have the patch files...
nt bothered to patch yet...
gonna jz copy paste from autosurf when i start playing
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autosurf at ss15? where is it i went to their old location but did not see it there any more did they move?

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