so all the real estate sifu come share ur story
what is your worst property investment???
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Some say that property investment is the best tool to invest your money but there is always a risk of buying a bad property ,so what is your worst property investment ? come share your experience, this could be a good reading ground for newbie that thinking to start invest in real estate.
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i think people who bought property at bukit beruntung area 10-15 years ago
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Buy any talam project sure regret
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plenty of ppl losing money in
NZX project puncak dana selayang capitol desa complex ue3 puchong air itam project. and this is just a tip of the ice berg |
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QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:02 PM) plenty of ppl losing money in If failure why is NZX subsale price is still so damn high? Maybe ppl got a lot of money to hold.NZX project puncak dana selayang capitol desa complex ue3 puchong air itam project. and this is just a tip of the ice berg This post has been edited by webby88: Oct 13 2010, 10:03 PM |
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Bukit Antarabangsa. One more landslide and the place be haunted forever
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Hi 0106127,
Care to share more about puchong air itam project? Where is the project? Thanks. |
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Bought a piece beach land. And the government take back the land and offer the 70% of the price that I have initially bought for the land. Loss 30% investment.
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I think my parents bought a house in cyberjaya, extremely bad returns . 500 ringgit rent for a 165k house. Afte 8 years the house price increase to a puny 180k.
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165k is double storey or single story?
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My mom bought a Talam house. Oh well
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talam if puncak jalil landed ok i guess.
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QUOTE(OnOne @ Oct 13 2010, 07:29 PM) Some say that property investment is the best tool to investment your money but there is always a risk of buying a bad property ,so what is your worst property investment ? come share your experience, this could be a good reading ground for newbie that thinking to start invest is real estate. My own house bought 10 yrs ago during the peak, was inexperience and kena conned by agent's "If u don't pay deposit now, some1 else wanna take oredi" so all the real estate sifu come share ur story what is your worst property investment??? The bardy 15 yo house at that time bought at RM235k (asking was RM240k, got RM5k discount only) after 10 yrs can only sell RM250k to RM280k rental RM800 per mth. Sumore facing west!!! Go 2nd floor in the evening like masuk Sauna!!! Oso lotsa problem such as roof leakage, tiles poping up, toilet rosak..... oredi spent >RM60k to fix, insulate roof & minor renovate. If sell today, not only lose opportunity cost but oso renovation cost. Worst investment ever This post has been edited by rakyat: Oct 14 2010, 02:23 PM |
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QUOTE(edyek @ Oct 14 2010, 10:55 AM) Bought a piece beach land. And the government take back the land and offer the 70% of the price that I have initially bought for the land. Loss 30% investment. Did u get a lawyer to represent u? If not then too bad, usually lawyers can fight n get u a higher price.. they wil use their own licensed valuation guy n fight for u but u need to pay the 10% - 30% from the amount tat they managed to get - the amount government offered... |
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QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 14 2010, 02:39 PM) Did u get a lawyer to represent u? If not then too bad, usually lawyers can fight n get u a higher price.. they wil use their own licensed valuation guy n fight for u but u need to pay the 10% - 30% from the amount tat they managed to get - the amount government offered... No need to fight la. Waste money and time. I've already negotiate to the maximum offer. Others land owners loss -50%. Anyway, this bad investment is only less than 1.5% from my land bank portfolio. My other investment is healthy. |
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property investment will not lose if you have the willing power to kept.
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wow nice guys keep it coming!...
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my hubby bought bukit 'berugi' many years ago.
its a double storey corner house cost around 170K... never stay b4..now ppl asking lower than 100k...celaka nia we have paid off the house. so just wait n see loh.. |
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can anyone share with me what's the problem with these talam developments. I'm new to this area. What led to these vandalism, falling prices, lack of demand, thefts and such.
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bukit antarabangsa seems like one, and also kosas area.. either stagnant or devaluing...
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my parents bought a shoplot in bkt "berugi". their lot is located at 3rd floor. have been left vacant and unable to rent out until recently. guess how much they they able to rent out? rm200.
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wow! Bkt beruntung property really suck....
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something to do with the entrance statement and access. been there last week for open house. a bit dull. people there must do something to make it livelier. twice a week pasar malam for instance.
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QUOTE(YannYann @ Oct 14 2010, 06:25 PM) my hubby bought bukit 'berugi' many years ago. What happen there ? How come the price drop so drastically?its a double storey corner house cost around 170K... never stay b4..now ppl asking lower than 100k...celaka nia we have paid off the house. so just wait n see loh.. |
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here some read up for those who are interested to know why bkt beruntung became bukit berugi and also some news on some development.
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last i heard apartment rm10k at beruntung
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haha. then property still cheap lo.. selected areas go up only.
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yeah, only selected areas are damn expensive bcoz of speculation
some areas are relatively cheap or reasonable |
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i would say rawang. one of my friend dad bought a huge land @ rawang golf course quite a number of years ago when the gov said that their building an airport there. now that huge piece of land doesn't even worth half the price.
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Oct 14 2010, 05:07 PM) well it depends on the type of property and the location of the property.for example bukit beruntung, it is thought to be the second pj of selangor. and after 20 years, the flats are selling at 3-4k per unit. its dirt cheap. BUT would you want to buy??? Added on October 15, 2010, 9:32 pm QUOTE(leahcim @ Oct 14 2010, 10:16 PM) my parents bought a shoplot in bkt "berugi". their lot is located at 3rd floor. have been left vacant and unable to rent out until recently. guess how much they they able to rent out? rm200. hi leahcim, you are damm lucky to get it rented out at rm200This post has been edited by 106127: Oct 15 2010, 09:32 PM |
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Venice Hill , Cheras. Purchased at RM249,000 + furnishing RM60,000 (forced to furnish by developer in order to get the 7% guaranteed returns). In the end, sold at RM135,000 few years ago.
After they let it out to a Korean, developer kept the rental and eventually the co. wind up. Do not get even a sen from the rental. Quite messy at the stage when I sold the ppty. |
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in some 'worse' area like bkt beruntung ... there is still a chance to develop if govt build new university or new industrial hub.
for example, in area puncak alam b4, rental only rm300-400 for double storey house (20x70). But after yrs, now with new UiTM campus .... the rental increase to double & housing price increase too. |
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all because of speculation by the developer, example bukit beruntung-klia
all people rushed and bought all the houses...end up klia in sepang haha eventhough perodua factory in bukit beruntung area, this place is still dead too many houses to cater the needs |
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My fren bought a single storey house in Taman Kinrara Puchong 11 years back for RM145k, manage to sell off last year for RM172k only. A very bad investment. Not to mention about the crime rate that are happening around that area, its getting worse and the property value there hardly move.
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where is taman kinrara puchong.
is it near BK 1? |
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QUOTE(OnOne @ Oct 13 2010, 08:29 PM) Some say that property investment is the best tool to investment your money but there is always a risk of buying a bad property ,so what is your worst property investment ? come share your experience, this could be a good reading ground for newbie that thinking to start invest is real estate. Anybody bought any service apartment and end up holding it and selling it at a lost becauseso all the real estate sifu come share ur story what is your worst property investment??? 1) Could not rent out? 2) The property did not appreciate as expected and it is painful to pay the bank? 3) other reason? |
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QUOTE(106127 @ Oct 15 2010, 09:29 PM) well it depends on the type of property and the location of the property. yeah.. thanks. i'm thankful to god that my parents able to rent out the place at last. coz the place had been vacant for erm can't remember i think for about 15 years or more. at least there's someone now to so call to take care of the place. speculation of bkt beruntung will be the 2nd pj was one of the reason my parents bought the place. too bad it never came true. for example bukit beruntung, it is thought to be the second pj of selangor. and after 20 years, the flats are selling at 3-4k per unit. its dirt cheap. BUT would you want to buy??? Added on October 15, 2010, 9:32 pm hi leahcim, you are damm lucky to get it rented out at rm200 |
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I bought a Semi D(Sarawak) this year at RM175K and the rental is only RM350 at the moment while my colleague bought a Apartment(JB) at RM165K+RM170 maintenance. the Rental is RM850.
But, Some of my relatives bought a Terrace house with RM16XK (next to my taman) and was suppose to move in 2 yrs ago and is still nowhere to be seen |
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QUOTE(epie @ Oct 16 2010, 01:28 PM) all because of speculation by the developer, example bukit beruntung-klia the perodua factory is in rawang rite? not bukit beruntungall people rushed and bought all the houses...end up klia in sepang haha eventhough perodua factory in bukit beruntung area, this place is still dead too many houses to cater the needs |
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with all the above property investment failure do you think it is still wise to jump into this ship? I m investing part of my money in equity market but still wana diversified on my investment portfolio. Dam it the property price keep surging like no body business. Too much speculation? Anyone aware that most of the new properties launch are selling above RM300k-400k (only condo) don't dream of landed property dudes/babes.
The only massive drawback for property investment is once you invested wrongly (eg bukit berugi) you'll be stuck and not easy to get rid of it. Whereas investing on a better location, entry cost will be lot higher). am i waffling? |
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QUOTE(airline @ Oct 16 2010, 02:54 PM) Tun Airlineits opposite the Old Town White Coffee Cafe and at the back of The Shell(used to be Projet) petrol station, same row as Bintang Supermarket. You can see the whole garden 90% are single storey house. This area majority used to be chinese community 10 years back, now majority residents there are indian and the crime rate is sky rocketing. This post has been edited by Tohsan: Oct 17 2010, 07:42 AM |
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Perodua is at Bukit beruntung. Well my mum did buy a flat there.. 40k last time (during the time when ppl say KLIA will be built there). at the end? now its less than 10k and noone is there.. imagine, d whole block, only got 1-2 house is occupied..others is empty - _ - "
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bukit beruntung will be improve if goment set something up.
But so far goment never see this yet but somehow,k they are trying to improve the transportation system 1st. well. sommore selangor is PKR now. I dont think they will. but rawang will be a growth in 20 yrs for sure. |
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Oct 17 2010, 08:25 PM) bukit beruntung will be improve if goment set something up. well i heard PKR is doing something.But so far goment never see this yet but somehow,k they are trying to improve the transportation system 1st. well. sommore selangor is PKR now. I dont think they will. but rawang will be a growth in 20 yrs for sure. there large tracks of land that are negotiated to be sold to foreign factory owner. not sure the progress though |
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i mean PKR dont have $$$ power
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looking at Salak Tinggi properties, can we agree that even if an airport got built, there's no guarantee that the surrounding place can go up? i mean, it can be a plus factor, but it still take times for the prices to take off, no?
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don't buy properties, just rent for your own stay, pay up 2 months deposit + 2 month advance, u can stay for a year. Tenant in Malaysia are very common for not paying up the rental! M'sia Gov, where is ur man to execute the existing LAW?
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Simple.... cheap things not necessary good... good things definitely NOT cheap...
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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Oct 17 2010, 03:41 AM) with all the above property investment failure do you think it is still wise to jump into this ship? I m investing part of my money in equity market but still wana diversified on my investment portfolio. Dam it the property price keep surging like no body business. Too much speculation? Anyone aware that most of the new properties launch are selling above RM300k-400k (only condo) don't dream of landed property dudes/babes. Property is still 1 of the best investment vehicle to amass wealth. The only massive drawback for property investment is once you invested wrongly (eg bukit berugi) you'll be stuck and not easy to get rid of it. Whereas investing on a better location, entry cost will be lot higher). am i waffling? It is a finite and tangable asset and allows incredible leverage. Just do some 'homework' b/4 putting your money & remember 'location, location, location'. Since u invest in equities, lets us KLSE analogy - just b'coz you bought some UMNO counters (Bkt Beruntung) based on election tips (new airport) and got burnt does not mean shares are no good. Instead of relying on tips, punting on penny shares, do some research and try to discover some solid business. Or if you want to be save, invest in established bluechip. Bluechips might be expensive and unexciting but will deliver consistant results and dividends (capital appreciation and rental yield) For every Rawang or bkt beruntung or abandon projects, there are also 12% rental returns and 150% capital appreciation upon VPed stories. Sorry for being blunt - like KLSE most of the ppl burnt worst are Aunties, retires & Noobies, RE investors in Rawang & BKt. Beruntungs were normally........ This post has been edited by rakyat: Oct 22 2010, 01:54 PM |
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taman paramount condo ....
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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Oct 22 2010, 05:12 PM) This one and Rytham Avenue in USJ19 I nearly kena. Tmn Paramount was cheap and next to LRT + PJ address but I gave it a miss coz hightension cables and my personal prejudice bout Paramount (gangsta area) oso not BBB mood that time. USJ19 was very cheap and attractive at that time and only b'coz banks did not want to lend me $$$ I was saved. |
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lousy tenant always applied to lousy area and desperate owner...
but prime area will have the same issue. But the owner need to be efficient and educated how to work with law. example, use a tenancy agreement will be strong enough. |
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Apartment at Kajang Utama also worst investment
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Oct 22 2010, 01:49 PM) Property is still 1 of the best investment vehicle to amass wealth. Great analogy It is a finite and tangable asset and allows incredible leverage. Just do some 'homework' b/4 putting your money & remember 'location, location, location'. Since u invest in equities, lets us KLSE analogy - just b'coz you bought some UMNO counters (Bkt Beruntung) based on election tips (new airport) and got burnt does not mean shares are no good. Instead of relying on tips, punting on penny shares, do some research and try to discover some solid business. Or if you want to be save, invest in established bluechip. Bluechips might be expensive and unexciting but will deliver consistant results and dividends (capital appreciation and rental yield) For every Rawang or bkt beruntung or abandon projects, there are also 12% rental returns and 150% capital appreciation upon VPed stories. Sorry for being blunt - like KLSE most of the ppl burnt worst are Aunties, retires & Noobies, RE investors in Rawang & BKt. Beruntungs were normally........ |
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QUOTE(WWJD @ Oct 24 2010, 10:55 PM) agree on that... my house in putra perdana, puchong cannot appreciate. it is too far away from IOI and also Cyberjaya. furthermore Cyberjaya and Putrajaya itself have houses. Have to disagree. I bought Bandar Baru Ampang dsl 18x65 back in 98' for less than 100k. Today it's letting out for 950 & has a market value of 280k. Has never been vacant til today.This post has been edited by Daryl Teo: Oct 25 2010, 01:39 AM |
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QUOTE(Daryl Teo @ Oct 25 2010, 01:38 AM) Have to disagree. I bought Bandar Baru Ampang dsl 18x65 back in 98' for less than 100k. Today it's letting out for 950 & has a market value of 280k. Has never been vacant til today. My opinion differs from you.I bought my Putra Perdana apartment for RM77K in 1998. The property was completed in 2001. Now the price of the apartment is about RM60K. I lost RM17K there. If i were to let it out, it is only RM200 a mth. |
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i wonder y u guys bought at putra perdana at the 1st place
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i think bandar baru ampang by talam also? i maybe wrong.
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Paramount Condo.. Project approved by BN now stuck no CF with PKR...
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QUOTE(epie @ Oct 25 2010, 09:55 AM) i wonder y u guys bought at putra perdana at the 1st place during the launch, they said that the place will appreciate because of Cyberjaya and Putrajaya. i queued up to buy the house (queued up to rugi in the end). In the end, Putra Perdana did not appreciate as it should be. in fact, in 2002 and 2003 the place is flooded whenever there are heavy downpours. now it is better but mid this year, it flooded again but not so bad as it was previously.for me it is quite far away from amenities and any township Putrajaya and Cyberjaya is more well develop than Putra Perdana. That's also why people choose not to stay there... made worst that the place is not upmarket. |
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QUOTE(WWJD @ Oct 25 2010, 08:33 AM) My opinion differs from you. Now Puchong area is hot now...expecially near bandar puteri...recently new property K boulevard is hot cake there...price is speculated up to 300+ per square feet later..I bought my Putra Perdana apartment for RM77K in 1998. The property was completed in 2001. Now the price of the apartment is about RM60K. I lost RM17K there. If i were to let it out, it is only RM200 a mth. |
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QUOTE(cngi @ Oct 25 2010, 04:24 PM) Now Puchong area is hot now...expecially near bandar puteri...recently new property K boulevard is hot cake there...price is speculated up to 300+ per square feet later.. those houses in bandar puteri definitely appreciates because of the good ammenities such as Tesco, Giant, IOI and there is also a private hospital there. actually it also depends on the community that stays there example houses like in Puchong Hartamas is also expensive. I think those houses in Puchong that is under MPSJ areas are appreciating faster than those under Sepang councils... just my thought... |
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QUOTE(WWJD @ Oct 25 2010, 01:04 PM) during the launch, they said that the place will appreciate because of Cyberjaya and Putrajaya. i queued up to buy the house (queued up to rugi in the end). In the end, Putra Perdana did not appreciate as it should be. in fact, in 2002 and 2003 the place is flooded whenever there are heavy downpours. now it is better but mid this year, it flooded again but not so bad as it was previously. thats y, i always tell prospective house buyers, dont just listen to SA and their marketing campaign.Putrajaya and Cyberjaya is more well develop than Putra Perdana. That's also why people choose not to stay there... made worst that the place is not upmarket. investing in property is not sure profit for buyers. many got burnt and just kept quiet. while those that profit make plenty of noise. |
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Oct 26 2010, 11:14 AM
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listening to the SA is like listening to the speaking parrot
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3 bedroom landed property in Taman Sentosa Klang, yield rental of RM 300 per month
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Don't touch Johor Properties...They are dead...
My bro bought a property from well known developer for 220k. That was 15 years ago. After finished paying his loan, his property is now only worth 180k. This post has been edited by loki: Oct 26 2010, 04:55 PM |
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which part of johor huh bro
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Oct 26 2010, 05:09 PM
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Maybe Bandar Baru Nilai for my mum. But been receiving calls from car service shops/workshops and tyre workshops because they're interested in renting .... don't understand though because it's a plot of land in the middle of the residential estate.
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Oct 26 2010, 05:36 PM
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Like RE experts said, we shall buy property base on it's actual value rather than potential value. If we all follow this practice, those bkt beruntung case won't be happen on us.
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taman sentosa-many indians there. No?
My bro bought a property from well known developer for 220k.- which developer is this? sp setia ke? huge landbank in johor |
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am thinking about getting a place in Seri Cendekia Condo inTaman Connaught, Cheras for investment. but listen to these horror stories also have to think a bit. even if location good but tenant teruk, still got problem. what other pitfalls are there other than location and tenant for completed units?
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QUOTE(ccdev @ Oct 26 2010, 06:27 PM) am thinking about getting a place in Seri Cendekia Condo inTaman Connaught, Cheras for investment. but listen to these horror stories also have to think a bit. even if location good but tenant teruk, still got problem. what other pitfalls are there other than location and tenant for completed units? woah...got horror stories in connaught ...must be from the bukit nearbyi thought that place is a very good place to stay |
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QUOTE(ccdev @ Oct 27 2010, 09:21 AM) no, no, not horror story in connaught but horror story in lowyat. from your comment, connaught must be good place! The apartments in Tmn. Connaught (mid-cost not low cost) r good investment but I think the price has been chased up after the completion of IJM's landed. There is a catchment of college students (if u don't mind Africans), IJM's project have revitalised the area + push it to upmarket (for Cheras standard), new access road from Kesas. Always saw potential in the area & regret did not put $$$ in it 10 yrs ago |
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my auntie bought shop lot at commerce square (PJ)
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Oct 27 2010, 11:27 AM) The apartments in Tmn. Connaught (mid-cost not low cost) r good investment but I think the price has been chased up after the completion of IJM's landed. you do not put money now and u will say the same thing in 10 years time There is a catchment of college students (if u don't mind Africans), IJM's project have revitalised the area + push it to upmarket (for Cheras standard), new access road from Kesas. Always saw potential in the area & regret did not put $$$ in it 10 yrs ago |
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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Oct 17 2010, 03:41 AM) with all the above property investment failure do you think it is still wise to jump into this ship? I m investing part of my money in equity market but still wana diversified on my investment portfolio. Dam it the property price keep surging like no body business. Too much speculation? Anyone aware that most of the new properties launch are selling above RM300k-400k (only condo) don't dream of landed property dudes/babes. Equity has its own set of risks as well... think Transmile. Of course, there are good stocks, and REITs are safe bets too, if you are satisfied with a 7% yield with limited capital appreciation.The only massive drawback for property investment is once you invested wrongly (eg bukit berugi) you'll be stuck and not easy to get rid of it. Whereas investing on a better location, entry cost will be lot higher). am i waffling? What makes property investment attractive is the leveraging effects. For stks, u have to put up 100% of the capital, whereas for property, one needs to put in about 20% of the cost and we are in business. |
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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Oct 28 2010, 12:57 PM) Equity has its own set of risks as well... think Transmile. Of course, there are good stocks, and REITs are safe bets too, if you are satisfied with a 7% yield with limited capital appreciation. U don't have margin account meh?What makes property investment attractive is the leveraging effects. For stks, u have to put up 100% of the capital, whereas for property, one needs to put in about 20% of the cost and we are in business. Added on October 28, 2010, 1:42 pm QUOTE(epie @ Oct 27 2010, 05:03 PM) Too little money chasing too many development This post has been edited by rakyat: Oct 28 2010, 01:42 PM |
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on a lighter note, check this link by a landlord
http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk...t-and-sex-toys/ |
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Sentul East condo project by Taiping Consolidates 15 years ago, now become other people condo under YTL, nothing compensated.
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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Oct 29 2010, 07:36 PM) Sentul East condo project by Taiping Consolidates 15 years ago, now become other people condo under YTL, nothing compensated. Perhaps there were no buyers earlier when Taiping Consolidated was working on it ? Hence, YTL just came in and took everything, then sell to their buyers. I don't think YTL can just side-step Taiping Consolidated's purchasers and brought his (YTL's) own purchasers in, right ? |
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This is exactly what happens, YTL just side step us. The law suit is going on for over a decade. The structure was up to 3 story of car park, then someone set a fire and burn it down and you all know what happen next la.
Now you understand why people say the Y families are blood suckers SOB. This post has been edited by KLsooner: Nov 2 2010, 11:51 AM |
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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Nov 2 2010, 12:47 PM) This is exactly what happens, YTL just side step us. The law suit is going on for over a decade. The structure was up to 3 story of car park, then someone set a fire and burn it down and you all know what happen next la. KL, I am sorry to hear that. Now you understand why people say the Y families are blood suckers SOB. Let me understand : So, it's just three storeys up only and only carparks up, then the residential units were not started yet. Subsequently, this three-storey structure was burnt down. I supposed Taiping Cons disappeared after that. Then YTL came in, took over, but they should have worked with the current purchasers (if there were any), since YTL is now coming in as a White Knight onto that plot of land. Not as a fresh developer. What about the strata titles ? Was the land sub-divided up yet and strata titles being processed for the earlier purchasers ? The question remains : WERE THERE ANY PURCHASERS EARLIER UNDER TAIPING CONSOLIDATED ? |
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Oct 14 2010, 02:22 PM) My own house bought 10 yrs ago during the peak, was inexperience and kena conned by agent's "If u don't pay deposit now, some1 else wanna take oredi" Developer and area, if u dun mind me asking? The bardy 15 yo house at that time bought at RM235k (asking was RM240k, got RM5k discount only) after 10 yrs can only sell RM250k to RM280k rental RM800 per mth. Sumore facing west!!! Go 2nd floor in the evening like masuk Sauna!!! Oso lotsa problem such as roof leakage, tiles poping up, toilet rosak..... oredi spent >RM60k to fix, insulate roof & minor renovate. If sell today, not only lose opportunity cost but oso renovation cost. Worst investment ever Added on November 2, 2010, 1:55 pm QUOTE(kw_cheah @ Oct 14 2010, 05:20 PM) Not to say the houses, even when i went to the TNB substation 5 years ago, it was abandoned.Added on November 2, 2010, 1:57 pm QUOTE(loki @ Oct 26 2010, 04:53 PM) Don't touch Johor Properties...They are dead... Location Location Location... My bro bought a property from well known developer for 220k. That was 15 years ago. After finished paying his loan, his property is now only worth 180k. Which part of Johor? This post has been edited by furryfluffy: Nov 2 2010, 01:57 PM |
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every part of johor....mostly buy landed is for ownstay like pay rent and expect little or no capital appreciate
reason being 1. JB being managed by the amno, and MCA fort(obviously never do anything one) 2. there is little or no development in heart of JB, all building are dated, infrastructure, road not properly maintained 3. JB looks the same 10 years ago, so will be your property price |
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 2 2010, 01:54 PM) Developer and area, if u dun mind me asking? Nothing to do with area or developer, just bad timing (market peak) & inexperience (did not negotiate properly - classic motivated buyer scenerio). Added on November 2, 2010, 1:55 pm Not to say the houses, even when i went to the TNB substation 5 years ago, it was abandoned. Added on November 2, 2010, 1:57 pm Location Location Location... Which part of Johor? If u need to know it is USJ & developer is Slime Darby The workmanship is shoddy and the design really stupid. e.g. road floods eveytime it rains coz water do not flow into drain but directed to the road, porch is slanted at an elavation, roof does not extend enuf to protect from rain - rain splashes through open room windows, u get wet coming out of car even when parked in porch. |
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Nov 2 2010, 02:06 PM) Nothing to do with area or developer, just bad timing (market peak) & inexperience (did not negotiate properly - classic motivated buyer scenerio). Wow... surprising eh? While most ppl think USJ is prime area & Slime ("l" typo intended? If u need to know it is USJ & developer is Slime Darby The workmanship is shoddy and the design really stupid. e.g. road floods eveytime it rains coz water do not flow into drain but directed to the road, porch is slanted at an elavation, roof does not extend enuf to protect from rain - rain splashes through open room windows, u get wet coming out of car even when parked in porch. Added on November 2, 2010, 2:17 pm QUOTE(yoki @ Nov 2 2010, 02:04 PM) every part of johor....mostly buy landed is for ownstay like pay rent and expect little or no capital appreciate IC... I always thought those who work in Singapore are driving up the price of property market. Sorry I was wrong.reason being 1. JB being managed by the amno, and MCA fort(obviously never do anything one) 2. there is little or no development in heart of JB, all building are dated, infrastructure, road not properly maintained 3. JB looks the same 10 years ago, so will be your property price This post has been edited by furryfluffy: Nov 2 2010, 02:17 PM |
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Worst investment is Rasah Kemayan shoplots. After paying 20% progress payment, the project was abandoned more than 10 years ago. Until now, no news or compensation ever been paid. 100 % lost.
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QUOTE(property user @ Nov 5 2010, 09:32 AM) Worst investment is Rasah Kemayan shoplots. After paying 20% progress payment, the project was abandoned more than 10 years ago. Until now, no news or compensation ever been paid. 100 % lost. You mean not even the land clearance work started or piling done ? No work started at allat the designated site ?With your S&P, you are the owner of the land, though it is still on Master Title. Go to the Land Office and enquire, and put a caveat if possible. |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 5 2010, 09:39 AM) You mean not even the land clearance work started or piling done ? No work started at allat the designated site ? if im not mistaken, rasah kemayan already has the building superstructure up. the shape is there but it was abandoned during the 1998 crisisWith your S&P, you are the owner of the land, though it is still on Master Title. Go to the Land Office and enquire, and put a caveat if possible. Added on November 5, 2010, 11:20 am QUOTE(property user @ Nov 5 2010, 08:32 AM) Worst investment is Rasah Kemayan shoplots. After paying 20% progress payment, the project was abandoned more than 10 years ago. Until now, no news or compensation ever been paid. 100 % lost. Any legal action against the developer? Is this is one at the corner near the new hospital and very near the Seremban toll? I saw the building.. such a waste... This post has been edited by furryfluffy: Nov 5 2010, 11:20 AM |
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 5 2010, 12:18 PM) if im not mistaken, rasah kemayan already has the building superstructure up. the shape is there but it was abandoned during the 1998 crisis If the superstructure is up, then there is a bigger problem. Added on November 5, 2010, 11:20 am Any legal action against the developer? Is this is one at the corner near the new hospital and very near the Seremban toll? I saw the building.. such a waste... I believed some purchasers are still paying interest to the bank because some initial staged disbursements would have been released by the financiers/banks. There is no way that the bank will let the purchasers go. If the purchasers stop servicing the interest, then the banks will go after the purchasers themselves because there is no foreclosure that can be done since the property was abandoned. The purchasers would have had their names blacklisted and they could not get another loan. I would rather the developer did not start at all, then the purchasers would only lose the 20% downpayment and nothing more. This post has been edited by Hansel: Nov 5 2010, 12:17 PM |
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[quote=furryfluffy,Nov 5 2010, 11:18 AM]
if im not mistaken, rasah kemayan already has the building superstructure up. the shape is there but it was abandoned during the 1998 crisis Added on November 5, 2010, 11:20 am The developer is Kemayan. It is already delisted from BURSA. There are two phases of shoplots that were launched and abandoned. One was up to superstructure. I was lucky that mine only reaches piling (I think) and then it was abandoned. They tried to pay the owners back in the early 2000s but their proposal was objected by some creditors. Then it all went silence until now. |
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QUOTE(property user @ Nov 5 2010, 04:39 PM) The developer is Kemayan. It is already delisted from BURSA. There are two phases of shoplots that were launched and abandoned. One was up to superstructure. I was lucky that mine only reaches piling (I think) and then it was abandoned. You are lucky. Developer 1st claim on buyers are upon finishing substructure works which is piling, pile cap, ground beam etc. They tried to pay the owners back in the early 2000s but their proposal was objected by some creditors. Then it all went silence until now. |
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QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 25 2010, 01:23 AM) Simple.... cheap things not necessary good... good things definitely NOT cheap...or Cheap things not necessary not good good things not necessary expensive there are your own perception 1 mil for 1 location is cheap for one but not another, worth for one and not worth for another. ultimately its your judgement and far sight of it. |
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QUOTE(edyek @ Nov 5 2010, 05:50 PM) You are lucky. Developer 1st claim on buyers are upon finishing substructure works which is piling, pile cap, ground beam etc. Hi Edyek, well, I wouldn't say he is lucky if the bank is not letting him go, and he is not able to settle / pay up the loan. Especially if he is still paying the interest after all these years.Unless the bank has let him go off. |
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[quote=property user,Nov 5 2010, 05:39 PM]
[quote=furryfluffy,Nov 5 2010, 11:18 AM] if im not mistaken, rasah kemayan already has the building superstructure up. the shape is there but it was abandoned during the 1998 crisis Added on November 5, 2010, 11:20 am The developer is Kemayan. It is already delisted from BURSA. There are two phases of shoplots that were launched and abandoned. One was up to superstructure. I was lucky that mine only reaches piling (I think) and then it was abandoned. They tried to pay the owners back in the early 2000s but their proposal was objected by some creditors. Then it all went silence until now. [/quote] Then : this matter should now be in the Hands of the Abandoned Unit Division of the Housing Ministry. The ball is in their hands now to find a white knight to takeover the project. That's how the system goes. Hold-on tightly to your S&P, put a caveat on that land so that nobody can just come in and take over the land silently and launch their own project, just like what YTL did in Sentul. If a white knight does come in, then your S&P will prove that you are one of the owners. The paper that you are holding carries more value than the scrip (in the olden days) of a delisted share counter. |
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QUOTE(rakyat @ Oct 14 2010, 02:22 PM) My own house bought 10 yrs ago during the peak, was inexperience and kena conned by agent's "If u don't pay deposit now, some1 else wanna take oredi" which area ur house is?The bardy 15 yo house at that time bought at RM235k (asking was RM240k, got RM5k discount only) after 10 yrs can only sell RM250k to RM280k rental RM800 per mth. Sumore facing west!!! Go 2nd floor in the evening like masuk Sauna!!! Oso lotsa problem such as roof leakage, tiles poping up, toilet rosak..... oredi spent >RM60k to fix, insulate roof & minor renovate. If sell today, not only lose opportunity cost but oso renovation cost. Worst investment ever |
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 2 2010, 02:11 PM) IC... I always thought those who work in Singapore are driving up the price of property market. Sorry I was wrong. Some of my property price increase due to Malaysians working in Singapore. Rentals are also going up. Most of yoki reply is not in JB. Which he lacks the credibility to comment JB. |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 2 2010, 12:13 PM) KL, I am sorry to hear that. The property was sold out (or mostly sold out) during Taipeng Consolidate time, then 97 crisis struck and the whole project stopped and was taken over by YTL few years later. YTL changed the whole development plan, they planned to build a more expensive condo by offering the old buyers a 15% early bird discount with a condition to drop the law suit. We asked for full refund but the request was declined. We were given the choice of taking the offer and enjoy a new condo (which is more expensive) on the same old site or continue with the law suit, the 20% we paid is gone. Later the fire happened and YTL claimed it was an accident and the new condo is build on new land and not the unfinished car park. The case is still going on until today. Let me understand : So, it's just three storeys up only and only carparks up, then the residential units were not started yet. Subsequently, this three-storey structure was burnt down. I supposed Taiping Cons disappeared after that. Then YTL came in, took over, but they should have worked with the current purchasers (if there were any), since YTL is now coming in as a White Knight onto that plot of land. Not as a fresh developer. What about the strata titles ? Was the land sub-divided up yet and strata titles being processed for the earlier purchasers ? The question remains : WERE THERE ANY PURCHASERS EARLIER UNDER TAIPING CONSOLIDATED ? YTL tried to turn the golf course at the back of Sang Suria (first phase built by Taipeng Con) into some soho apartments and was challenged by sang Suria residents in the court, YTL ended losing the case. This is how the Maple got a private park at the back of the condo. |
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KL, I am sorry to hear all these. A kid would know who will benefit the most if a fire brings down the carpark structure.
Then again : What about the strata titles ? Was the land sub-divided up yet and strata titles being processed for the earlier purchasers ? |
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do anybody know why there are so many ppls selling their apartment in sg long?
just curious. some of the apts were nicely build with green surrounding |
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Hansel: To my understanding, there is no strata titles as no structure is ever being built. The Saffron and Villa perhentian were built on the land so even there are strata titiles, also belong to the owners of the new condo.
fakhree: Sg Long has one of the lowest psft aprt price in KV. The factor of So Long to reach town centre probably can explain why. Another factor could be UTAR is moving its campus to Kampar. This post has been edited by KLsooner: Nov 9 2010, 09:33 PM |
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So, d rumours of UTAR moving out of sg long is true? No wonder ppl are sellong their unit.
Are there any access to sg long w'out using d hways? |
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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Nov 9 2010, 10:21 PM) Hansel: To my understanding, there is no strata titles as no structure is ever being built. The Saffron and Villa perhentian were built on the land so even there are strata titiles, also belong to the owners of the new condo. KL, thank you. I'm afraid I cannot fully-agree with your first statement, being : it is the developer's duty to apply for subdivision of the land during construction, and then to perform the MOT for the purchasers. Of course, some will be faster and many others will be very slow.If your construction progress has managed to reach the carpark structure, then I was hoping there was at least a subdivided title : strata title for each original purchaser. If even this is not available, then there is nothing to claim at all. The only available document of title here is the S&P. Still an S&P could be strong enough,.... |
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QUOTE(airline @ Oct 26 2010, 05:48 PM) taman sentosa-many indians there. No? I still can't believe racist people. WTF?My bro bought a property from well known developer for 220k.- which developer is this? sp setia ke? huge landbank in johor Added on January 4, 2011, 4:43 pmanyway, YTL sudah kaya raya lagi mau main dengan api dengan rakyat. WTF? This post has been edited by jeghui: Jan 4 2011, 04:43 PM |
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QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:02 PM) plenty of ppl losing money in This area is fluctuating. But my shophouse is beginning to see light again (maybe the Viva Mall). Same goes to Plaza 393, I hope Sunway Velocity will bring me some good news. Currently not losing money, not earning either.NZX project puncak dana selayang capitol desa complex ue3 puchong air itam project. and this is just a tip of the ice berg |
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Nov 6 2010, 07:30 PM) I am in JB. bro..i was referring landedSome of my property price increase due to Malaysians working in Singapore. Rentals are also going up. Most of yoki reply is not in JB. Which he lacks the credibility to comment JB. i.e taman sentosa, permas jaya, see the landed price up by how much? how many % appreciation good? looking at the JB town, kastam, city square area got change or not is there any new development? the road mostly under maintained..look at the jalan tebrau all the way to jusco, tesco so call the heart of JB....got change or not 5-10 yrs ago? This post has been edited by yoki: Jan 7 2011, 03:00 AM |
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QUOTE(yoki @ Jan 7 2011, 02:50 AM) bro..i was referring landed Have you look into the new growth area like Bukit Indah?i.e taman sentosa, permas jaya, see the landed price up by how much? how many % appreciation good? looking at the JB town, kastam, city square area got change or not is there any new development? the road mostly under maintained..look at the jalan tebrau all the way to jusco, tesco so call the heart of JB....got change or not 5-10 yrs ago? Why you want to look into mature estates? |
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Remember in mid 80' visited my kid friend new house, if remember correctly cost ~$170k. Now >20 yrs down the road, recently found out that still below 200k. We from small town northern peninsular.
Last yr went jalan-jalan to pahang karak another small town. Kaypo check the price of an old shophouse. Ok, cheap cheap $180k. Seller complaining they bought 20 yrs ago around same price. Recently talked to some uncle regarding history of one old condo in town. Wow, formally posh service apartment in 90', sold to Sporean >$600k. Now market rate ~$500k after 20yrs. Developer close shop cabut lari. I see many same kind of developers lately. |
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went to see our houses in Puncak Alam. apparently they are all tenants occupied. Thank God it's near UiTM, AJCC, McD and Petronas so I guess those units are still alright!
however, i saw some jutting out bases, non-completed constructions at the junction. kesian for people who bought those houses. i believe the developer sudah cabut. |
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QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Nov 6 2010, 07:30 PM) I am in JB. My brother currently livining in Johor too. I think not far to basi gudang (correct me if i spell wrongly)Some of my property price increase due to Malaysians working in Singapore. Rentals are also going up. Most of yoki reply is not in JB. Which he lacks the credibility to comment JB. the property price wasn't decrease for both shoplot and house. As he told me, Malaysian\Singaporian who work in Singapore live in Johor. Because Johor expenses still cheaper. And lots of ppl open their business in JB too. Added on January 27, 2011, 11:52 am QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 4 2011, 04:34 PM) I still can't believe racist people. WTF? $ is always not enough mah....Added on January 4, 2011, 4:43 pmanyway, YTL sudah kaya raya lagi mau main dengan api dengan rakyat. WTF? This post has been edited by Pressley.Q: Jan 27 2011, 11:52 AM |
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Finally... finish read through the 7 pages.
Thanks for all your sharing However, any 1 can comment the property of Saujana Puchong? The 2-sty house in SB5-10 seem to be cheap. And I saw lots and lots of houses awaiting for sell. anybody know why? or any one living there that can comment about it please? Thank you. |
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QUOTE(Pressley.Q @ Jan 27 2011, 11:56 AM) Finally... finish read through the 7 pages. if u r interested in saujana puchong, try to check auction property.Thanks for all your sharing However, any 1 can comment the property of Saujana Puchong? The 2-sty house in SB5-10 seem to be cheap. And I saw lots and lots of houses awaiting for sell. anybody know why? or any one living there that can comment about it please? Thank you. |
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Saujana Puchong was a terribly delayed project, and the developer is still 'holding on' to the property at the expense of the victims (purchasers). Lots of things are not completed yet.
Be careful of the houses here ! Developer : Saujana Puchong Sdn Bhd, a subsidiary company of TALAM again. Who else ?????????????????? This post has been edited by Hansel: Jan 27 2011, 12:21 PM |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 27 2011, 12:18 PM) Saujana Puchong was a terribly delayed project, and the developer is still 'holding on' to the property at the expense of the victims (purchasers). Lots of things are not completed yet. Talam damn smart to use all kind of new company name for their new development. Be careful of the houses here ! Developer : Saujana Puchong Sdn Bhd, a subsidiary company of TALAM again. Who else ?????????????????? I'm looking at the exisiting Saujana Puchong 2-sty House. 20x70 with RM230k++ consider quite cheap now adays.... but am very very worry that the quality of the house, and also the securities there. |
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As mentioned by many, Bkt Beruntung is one of the Worst Property Invesment. My friend only recently able to sold the unit at a lost. At least recoup something.
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My one and only property investment which bombed big time is Putra Perdana by Talam subsidiary. i though cluster bungalow would be nice , Newbie and summore got conned to pay 3k more because property was facing 'kawasan hijau', when the whole project was completed, u know what the damn developer built a TNB substatuion and a sewage waste pumping station in front of my house on the area formerly known as kawasan hijau!!!, wrote to them and they said no refund because the two amenities did not encroach into my boundary!, damn f*** up developer, on the s&P clearly stated kawasan hijau, but they went an built the two amenities there. TNB still ok but the waste pumping station is pumping sewage from all the houses in the area to another waste treatment station somewherelse!!!! Curse the bloody Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye for being the biggest cheat!!!
And the whole area is sinking due to the big ex mining pit still in the entrance of Putra perdana, movement of soil into the super huge mining pit over the years will destabilise the whole area!! So many houses which did renovation, the renovated part if not piled properly have sunk and and detached from the original house, everytime i go there to see the house can see the cemented part is higher than the ground!! fell sorry for those still owning and staying there!! bought at 177k sold at 165k after renting out for 4 yrs to the same tenant , im just glad that i managed to get it off my hands coz it feels like dropping money into an endless pit!!! no way gonna be any returns from the houses there. Dont touch any Talam Houses!!!!! or their many subsidiary!!!Cheaters and Conman!!!Some more can get Tan Sri for cheating the public, apa punya government ini!!Chan Ah Chai may u suffer the most horrible ^**& for causing so many people to suffer!!!!! This post has been edited by aerotec: Feb 1 2011, 04:23 PM |
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Where can I find black list of developers?
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Finally manage to read all... Thanks for sharing mates.
Anyway, is not easy to know whether the property you invest is good after next 3-5 years from now. Many invester are focus in lrt project or nearby. Who know whether it really happen? I would prefer to keep in cash and whack if there is good address/location property rather than any cheap places |
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QUOTE(aerotec @ Feb 1 2011, 04:18 PM) My one and only property investment which bombed big time is Putra Perdana by Talam subsidiary. i though cluster bungalow would be nice , Newbie and summore got conned to pay 3k more because property was facing 'kawasan hijau', when the whole project was completed, u know what the damn developer built a TNB substatuion and a sewage waste pumping station in front of my house on the area formerly known as kawasan hijau!!!, wrote to them and they said no refund because the two amenities did not encroach into my boundary!, damn f*** up developer, on the s&P clearly stated kawasan hijau, but they went an built the two amenities there. TNB still ok but the waste pumping station is pumping sewage from all the houses in the area to another waste treatment station somewherelse!!!! Curse the bloody Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye for being the biggest cheat!!! sorry to hear that broAnd the whole area is sinking due to the big ex mining pit still in the entrance of Putra perdana, movement of soil into the super huge mining pit over the years will destabilise the whole area!! So many houses which did renovation, the renovated part if not piled properly have sunk and and detached from the original house, everytime i go there to see the house can see the cemented part is higher than the ground!! fell sorry for those still owning and staying there!! bought at 177k sold at 165k after renting out for 4 yrs to the same tenant , im just glad that i managed to get it off my hands coz it feels like dropping money into an endless pit!!! no way gonna be any returns from the houses there. Dont touch any Talam Houses!!!!! or their many subsidiary!!!Cheaters and Conman!!!Some more can get Tan Sri for cheating the public, apa punya government ini!!Chan Ah Chai may u suffer the most horrible ^**& for causing so many people to suffer!!!!! so many bad reviews on talam projects, they are really bad developers glad to hear u managed to rent it out for 4 years and let it go at slightly lower price i think it is a break even....and u r lucky |
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QUOTE(epie @ Feb 2 2011, 01:22 PM) sorry to hear that bro Yep...I got a back experience buying Talam properties....got one unit in Puncak Jalil at 2002 but thank God completed at 2008...i thought not going to see my house but fortunately IJM took over. The price is 240K for 22x70so many bad reviews on talam projects, they are really bad developers glad to hear u managed to rent it out for 4 years and let it go at slightly lower price i think it is a break even....and u r lucky Now renting out for almost 2 years. Got the title as well as CF...initially bought the place cause it was really quiet, greens and very cooling...at night was really nice...but it's was a shit developer. Now after 8 years...the place is much developed...accessibility also improved, shop lot also opened...heard that the price has increased to around 300K-320K....much cheaper that the BK...though just 5 mins drive... |
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QUOTE(kkchong6901 @ Feb 2 2011, 03:27 PM) Yep...I got a back experience buying Talam properties....got one unit in Puncak Jalil at 2002 but thank God completed at 2008...i thought not going to see my house but fortunately IJM took over. The price is 240K for 22x70 at 1st i think that place will be a ghost townNow renting out for almost 2 years. Got the title as well as CF...initially bought the place cause it was really quiet, greens and very cooling...at night was really nice...but it's was a shit developer. Now after 8 years...the place is much developed...accessibility also improved, shop lot also opened...heard that the price has increased to around 300K-320K....much cheaper that the BK...though just 5 mins drive... but when i went there a few weeks ago, i was amazed the road and amenities have improved a lot compare to a few years back regret didnt buy it when the price was low congrats on ur property, surely u r in profit if u wanna sell it good investment |
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whats the title situation now for puncak jalil?
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The conmen are now selling their properties using agents, and hiding behind the agents. The Ministry of Housing awarded them the licence to develop again. I wonder what was the rationale in this ?
Purely corruption, I suppose. Or that TS has donated quite a big sum to THE political party. These problems in Malaysia will never end. |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 3 2011, 02:41 AM) The conmen are now selling their properties using agents, and hiding behind the agents. The Ministry of Housing awarded them the licence to develop again. I wonder what was the rationale in this ? if u wanna talk about corruption n politicsPurely corruption, I suppose. Or that TS has donated quite a big sum to THE political party. These problems in Malaysia will never end. its not gonna end |
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That's what I said and meant : it will never end, unless you have other reasons why are all these unfortunate things happening to Malaysians, then perhaps or hopefully it's something not related to : will never end, then we can take some actions to mitigate.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 3 2011, 03:21 PM) That's what I said and meant : it will never end, unless you have other reasons why are all these unfortunate things happening to Malaysians, then perhaps or hopefully it's something not related to : will never end, then we can take some actions to mitigate. u r like asking people not to eat rice anymore Otherwise, these 'never-ending things' can end if we don't buy properties anymore. the problem in our country is people dun listen to advice, they only like to comments we always know that consumers have the power but consumers always lose |
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Okay - agreed on that part : consumers have the power and consumers always lose, it is this very fact that is feeding the unending problems that we talked about earlier.
Your synonym : asking people not to eat rice, you are right again. I'll extend this statement further - look beyond the horizon, there are better things to eat outside there. |
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 3 2011, 03:51 PM) Okay - agreed on that part : consumers have the power and consumers always lose, it is this very fact that is feeding the unending problems that we talked about earlier. i agree with u my frenYour synonym : asking people not to eat rice, you are right again. I'll extend this statement further - look beyond the horizon, there are better things to eat outside there. but the problem is...it is hard for us to convince majority of the people to do the right things tats y we still have the same government from 1957 give u example: price of flour up 10cents per kilo, roti canai up 10cents each price of sugar up 10cents per kilo, teh o ais up 10cents per glass consumers can stop this by stop buying it anymore...but still they complaint n keep buying |
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Any olive residence buyers at subang here?here? The project name and the contractors changed hands many times alreAdy. Until now I see stil empty. Wonder why
Matahari project next to Sri hartamas school. Abandon also? This post has been edited by airline: Feb 3 2011, 08:21 PM |
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QUOTE(aerotec @ Feb 1 2011, 04:18 PM) bought at 177k sold at 165k after renting out for 4 yrs to the same tenant , im just glad that i managed to get it off my hands coz it feels like dropping money into an endless pit!!! no way gonna be any returns from the houses there. Wah at least you managed to sell with only around RM12k loss .. expected it to be much worse!!! |
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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Nov 8 2010, 10:22 PM) The property was sold out (or mostly sold out) during Taipeng Consolidate time, then 97 crisis struck and the whole project stopped and was taken over by YTL few years later. YTL changed the whole development plan, they planned to build a more expensive condo by offering the old buyers a 15% early bird discount with a condition to drop the law suit. We asked for full refund but the request was declined. We were given the choice of taking the offer and enjoy a new condo (which is more expensive) on the same old site or continue with the law suit, the 20% we paid is gone. Later the fire happened and YTL claimed it was an accident and the new condo is build on new land and not the unfinished car park. The case is still going on until today. After more than a decade of fighting, finally justice is prevailed. YTL tried to turn the golf course at the back of Sang Suria (first phase built by Taipeng Con) into some soho apartments and was challenged by sang Suria residents in the court, YTL ended losing the case. This is how the Maple got a private park at the back of the condo. Got back 100k++, can't say i like YTL now, but at least they fulfilled what suppose to be done long time ago. |
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well, i'm stepping my feet into buying a property. some good info here, but hope more stories can be shared.
looks like Talam is a big NO NO |
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Prior to the crisis in 97, bought a few units with MBf at Port Dickson at more than RM200k each. Still dead now and value at around RM20k. Due to Danaharta Act, cannot sue developer. Very unfortunate.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 3 2011, 02:41 AM) The conmen are now selling their properties using agents, and hiding behind the agents. The Ministry of Housing awarded them the licence to develop again. I wonder what was the rationale in this ? I assume you are refering to Talam... it has been bought over by IJM. Now Talam projects are Purely corruption, I suppose. Or that TS has donated quite a big sum to THE political party. These problems in Malaysia will never end. Chan Ah Chai is no longer a developer. He is a 'born again' christian, sort of like a pastor preaching bout his life story. Funny how afew conman after making money dubiously suddenly become god fearing christian preachers: Talam & TA |
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time to clean the soul and go to heaven......
so Talam now is under IJM?? so NEW Talam projects can buy, but old ones keep away?? |
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QUOTE(michaellee @ May 12 2011, 12:01 AM) Prior to the crisis in 97, bought a few units with MBf at Port Dickson at more than RM200k each. Still dead now and value at around RM20k. Due to Danaharta Act, cannot sue developer. Very unfortunate. wonder is which pd project???20k can't even cover the contruction cost. |
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i found tmn sentosa currently selling price with 100k to 200k, try to buy one overthere.
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My bad investment is.....errrr. hmmm. So far so good.
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QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:02 PM) plenty of ppl losing money in Ue3= plaza uncang emas now viva mall? Sth cursed these areas viva dying soon.. many close down di..NZX project puncak dana selayang capitol desa complex ue3 puchong air itam project. and this is just a tip of the ice berg 1 shamelin too.. southgate too.. cheras sentral mb not.. kenanga whole sale city.. assure you.. more losing money investment coming soon.. too high a price resindential rentals and business shops rental all cannot cover and tenantless.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 6 2014, 10:23 PM) Ue3= plaza uncang emas now viva mall? Sth cursed these areas viva dying soon.. many close down di.. You mean even ViVa Homes is not doing well now??1 shamelin too.. southgate too.. cheras sentral mb not.. kenanga whole sale city.. assure you.. more losing money investment coming soon.. too high a price resindential rentals and business shops rental all cannot cover and tenantless.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 6 2014, 09:23 PM) Ue3= plaza uncang emas now viva mall? Sth cursed these areas viva dying soon.. many close down di.. Bro bear y did u reply to a 4 yr old post???1 shamelin too.. southgate too.. cheras sentral mb not.. kenanga whole sale city.. assure you.. more losing money investment coming soon.. too high a price resindential rentals and business shops rental all cannot cover and tenantless.. |
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May 6 2014, 09:57 PM
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try avoid talam...and any other company related to the previous owner of talam...
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May 6 2014, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ May 6 2014, 09:42 PM) Come and see ur self the overtime bar change name many time liao in same time 3 outlets viva.. shamelin.. southgate tutup...finally close down.. row of shops along old town 3 shops main road close ... bubble tee shop close down from 5 to 1.. phone acce shops total wipe out.. left home home appl shop wiping out soon..axis atrium... southcity plaza.. giant cheras.. can almost hear ppls footsteps while sitting so depressing.. Accesories shops close counter with average 200 or lesser..haizz.. aiting wipe out.. new malls replacing cheras sentral.. and maxim mall.. aeon at bandar mahkota too.. so many service apartments flooding matket.. got so many ppl oso no use.. not enough money to spend.. township concept like setia alam every dev also having.. hsizz. Market.. can earn enough makan.. if rental inc4ease prepare close shop better than making loss connought avenue too.. offices units I dun dare mention anyone? |
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May 6 2014, 10:00 PM
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May 6 2014, 10:03 PM
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May 6 2014, 10:20 PM
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May 6 2014, 10:38 PM
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May 6 2014, 10:42 PM
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One point of time in Nilai, Bandar Baru Nilai and Nilai 3 area was dead. Now back to action.
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May 6 2014, 10:51 PM
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Need to learn from good prop experts. Be patient. There will be buying opportunities. Must be able to identify opportunities.
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May 6 2014, 10:59 PM
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Me tink wnotger potential poblem is so many new serviced aprtments wit so called " soping komplek" but actually not real but only small commercial centre
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May 6 2014, 11:08 PM
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May 7 2014, 09:36 PM
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places with many massage parlours is usually a good investment
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May 7 2014, 09:40 PM
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May 7 2014, 10:46 PM
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anything related to port dickson
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May 7 2014, 10:50 PM
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Pulau melaka , after 18 years, sign again new snp at 2012 with additional 10% till to date no new. Very very back investment
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May 8 2014, 10:32 AM
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retail shops in penang times square..dead mall now..
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May 8 2014, 11:19 AM
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venice hill at cheras.
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May 12 2014, 02:20 PM
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There are lots of house for sales at Taman Bunga Raya near Tar college. If that place is good for investment, I wonder why so many people are selling it..
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May 12 2014, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(broken hearted @ May 12 2014, 02:20 PM) There are lots of house for sales at Taman Bunga Raya near Tar college. If that place is good for investment, I wonder why so many people are selling it.. young generation don't like to stay on those old single storey house..Anyone have any comments on this? better invest in new condo etc. at that area. |
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May 12 2014, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(akh731 @ May 12 2014, 02:30 PM) young generation don't like to stay on those old single storey house.. But condo u can hardly find freehold unit+land and is much more expensive compared to those.better invest in new condo etc. at that area. So a lot of people's mindset is to sell and buy somewhere around genting klang at those PVs area.. |
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May 15 2014, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(epie @ Oct 13 2010, 08:25 PM) i think people who bought property at bukit beruntung area 10-15 years ago I'm Mona property agent from Chester Properties Sdn Bhd.any experience wanna share here To all owner who have landed house in bukit beruntung, bukit sentosa, prima beruntung and golf club want to sell the house, can contact me. its the right time to sell the landed property here because high demand from buyer Bank valuer, loan and lawyer can be arrange...listing buyer waiting Interested can email me at monalizamustafa@gmail.com or sms @ whatssapp me at 60193785302 |
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May 15 2014, 03:22 PM
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I'm Mona property agent from Chester Properties Sdn Bhd.
To all owner who have landed house in bukit beruntung, bukit sentosa, prima beruntung and golf club want to sell the house, can contact me. its the right time to sell the landed property here because high demand from buyer Bank valuer, loan and lawyer can be arrange...listing buyer waiting Interested can email me at monalizamustafa@gmail.com or sms @ whatssapp me at 60193785302 |
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May 16 2014, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(monaliza @ May 15 2014, 03:21 PM) I'm Mona property agent from Chester Properties Sdn Bhd. standard quotation from agent "listing buyer waiting" To all owner who have landed house in bukit beruntung, bukit sentosa, prima beruntung and golf club want to sell the house, can contact me. its the right time to sell the landed property here because high demand from buyer Bank valuer, loan and lawyer can be arrange...listing buyer waiting Interested can email me at monalizamustafa@gmail.com or sms @ whatssapp me at 60193785302 I have sold some of my properties without using agents before and recently i have used agent bcoz i dont have time to manage...it was my greatest regret |
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May 16 2014, 09:59 AM
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May 16 2014, 10:02 AM
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May 16 2014, 10:57 AM
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superlink premium home at ukay perdana - talam project, ukay land developer.. my worst nightmare... bought in 2004, abandoned, then taken over by ijm. thought white knight will help but some units were completed but not mine. good thing is only deposit 10% burnt.
last year developer under liquidation. ridiculous thing is buyer need to verify ownership and pay for the liquidators' fee ourselves as developer do not have money to pay them. if its few hundred then ok but they are charging 2% on purchase price and also RM212 for 'Liquidators' Solicitors' Vetting Fees'... really blood sucking vampires.. already buyers are at losing end they ask to pay some more! also not guaranteed anything will happen later. because of this, no dream home for family... now buying property is out of our range! |
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May 16 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ May 16 2014, 10:57 AM) superlink premium home at ukay perdana - talam project, ukay land developer.. my worst nightmare... bought in 2004, abandoned, then taken over by ijm. thought white knight will help but some units were completed but not mine. good thing is only deposit 10% burnt. walau.... wat the status of the project now?last year developer under liquidation. ridiculous thing is buyer need to verify ownership and pay for the liquidators' fee ourselves as developer do not have money to pay them. if its few hundred then ok but they are charging 2% on purchase price and also RM212 for 'Liquidators' Solicitors' Vetting Fees'... really blood sucking vampires.. already buyers are at losing end they ask to pay some more! also not guaranteed anything will happen later. because of this, no dream home for family... now buying property is out of our range! |
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May 16 2014, 11:19 AM
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May 16 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ May 16 2014, 11:19 AM) Under liquidation I think.... didn't receive further news from Liquidator. my company is under negotiation with talam maybe to take over the project from talam to do it. would appreciate ur opinion would you be willing to add some money to get the house completed? as far as i know it was sold more than 10 years ago for around 300k+, to be realistic the building cost nowadays would have cost more than that. so if lets say need to top up another 100k or so, would you as a buyer take the deal or would you withdraw the unit? thank youI did not pay up and dateline is over to submit. I am also lost how to proceed. Gave up! |
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May 16 2014, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ May 16 2014, 11:25 AM) my company is under negotiation with talam maybe to take over the project from talam to do it. would appreciate ur opinion would you be willing to add some money to get the house completed? as far as i know it was sold more than 10 years ago for around 300k+, to be realistic the building cost nowadays would have cost more than that. so if lets say need to top up another 100k or so, would you as a buyer take the deal or would you withdraw the unit? thank you If there's a revival to complete, I'm all for it. Understandable if need to top up but have to see how much. If ok, will definitely take the deal.But don't know if the negotiation is the same project as mine. This post has been edited by ll-uniq: May 16 2014, 11:32 AM |
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May 16 2014, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ May 16 2014, 11:31 AM) If there's a revival to complete, I'm all for it. Understandable if need to top up but have to see how much. If ok, will definitely take the deal. yes it is i think, it's 2200 sqft 3 storey superlink on top of ukay perdana right? part of it already completed, the surroundings have semi d's and link houses. the completed designs looks ugly for me, but my company is still just at the beginning stage of the nego.But don't know if the negotiation is the same project as mine. |
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May 16 2014, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ May 16 2014, 12:03 PM) yes it is i think, it's 2200 sqft 3 storey superlink on top of ukay perdana right? part of it already completed, the surroundings have semi d's and link houses. the completed designs looks ugly for me, but my company is still just at the beginning stage of the nego. yup, that's the one. please update if have any news. thanks!if have revival, don't know whether will have problem with liquidator as I did not pay them the fees. |
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May 16 2014, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(ll-uniq @ May 16 2014, 02:36 PM) yup, that's the one. please update if have any news. thanks! yup, will update if any news..... but pls do not put too high hopes, it's really still a very very preliminary stage...u know of any other owners? might need to speak to all the other owners before reaching a deal. but good news is at least talam is looking at options to revive it, might not be my company, might be others.....who knows? so cheers bro!if have revival, don't know whether will have problem with liquidator as I did not pay them the fees. |
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May 16 2014, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ May 16 2014, 02:47 PM) yup, will update if any news..... but pls do not put too high hopes, it's really still a very very preliminary stage...u know of any other owners? might need to speak to all the other owners before reaching a deal. but good news is at least talam is looking at options to revive it, might not be my company, might be others.....who knows? so cheers bro! Understood.Anyway, I do have a list of all owners for the project (part of court papers filed many years ago).... think some of them might have sold off. |
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May 23 2014, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(epie @ May 16 2014, 09:30 AM) standard quotation from agent "listing buyer waiting" Sir...I have sold some of my properties without using agents before and recently i have used agent bcoz i dont have time to manage...it was my greatest regret This is bukit beruntung & bukit sentosa area... different agent...different style of works.. don't judge all the agent are same...if i mention the listing buyer waiting...its true coz i have buyer who asking me about the property thanks |
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May 23 2014, 04:57 PM
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May 23 2014, 05:14 PM
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May 24 2014, 01:10 AM
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Yup, viva mall is dying again. Tenants are moving out rapidly, see how well they can stop the trend. .. But i predict the management can't do much to save it. .... Just pity those who had bought the ue3 office must be very disappointed
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May 24 2014, 05:16 AM
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May 24 2014, 06:21 AM
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My apartment in Docklands. Lost RM300k in value over the last 3 years. FML.
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May 24 2014, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 24 2014, 05:16 AM) tenant quality control sibeh bad. ahpork ahkaw all can masuk rent the place. last year they offer a place to my client. after go see. reject the offer liao. surrounded by flat and old kilang not far away. no good quality residential area around. very hard to sustain the business liao. access also not easy. very easy miss the turning and jialat |
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May 24 2014, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(SSblack @ May 24 2014, 01:10 AM) Yup, viva mall is dying again. Tenants are moving out rapidly, see how well they can stop the trend. .. But i predict the management can't do much to save it. .... Just pity those who had bought the ue3 office must be very disappointed Not only viva mall... southgate... too.. axis atrium maluri.. and one glaring collapse the spark salak south.. left major anchorbelow are list of high potential collapse malls: a) viva mall, loke yew b) southgate, sg besi c) the spark, salak south d) 1 shamelin, maluri e) axis atrium *both towers, pandan f) giant mall, cheras , opposite you city g) southcity mall, seri kembangan h) kenanga wholesale city, kl g) brem mall, kepong (tenants terminating tenancy) h) ss2 mall, petaling jaya I) giant mall, connought ucsi j) carrefour mall, the queens avenue( opposite sunvelocity) k)aeon, bandar mahkota cheras l)scott gargen, klang lama m) any more malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions: a) 1 almerin mall, balakong b) setia city mall, setia alam c) cheras sentral, cheras d) maxim mall and residence, cheras behind cheras sentral e) times square, kl f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening g) 1 south, seri kembangan h) etc malls poised to prosper: a) new IOI mall, putrajaya b) mid valley, kl c) low yat mall( of course LYN forum too) d)sun velocity mall e)tesco midah f)tesco ampang g) 1 utama H)the curve I) ikano power center j) etc please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice.. |
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May 24 2014, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(SSblack @ May 24 2014, 01:10 AM) Yup, viva mall is dying again. Tenants are moving out rapidly, see how well they can stop the trend. .. But i predict the management can't do much to save it. .... Just pity those who had bought the ue3 office must be very disappointed oh man. i like the mall when i wanna buy something for my house. damn |
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May 24 2014, 09:23 AM
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Me oso part time bomoh ( full time job rodside and pasar mlm selling coconuts..last time me predicted doom of Viva and Kenanga EVEN before both opened for bisinis...means me more powerful bomoh...one of me fens didnt listen to me, went ahead opened computer sop at VIva, wat to do, tink me should go become full time bomoh and fengsui master more lucrative after tis
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May 24 2014, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 24 2014, 09:01 AM) Not only viva mall... southgate... too.. axis atrium maluri.. and one glaring collapse the spark salak south.. left major anchor Wah bear boss. U also got positive look on ioi garden mall. Must ask my client accept back the offer Liao n go look c.below are list of high potential collapse malls: a) viva mall, loke yew b) southgate, sg besi c) the spark, salak south d) 1 shamelin, maluri e) axis atrium *both towers, pandan f) giant mall, cheras , opposite you city g) southcity mall, seri kembangan h) kenanga wholesale city, kl g) brem mall, kepong (tenants terminating tenancy) h) ss2 mall, petaling jaya I) giant mall, connought ucsi j) carrefour mall, the queens avenue( opposite sunvelocity) k)aeon, bandar mahkota cheras l)scott gargen, klang lama m) any more malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions: a) 1 almerin mall, balakong b) setia city mall, setia alam c) cheras sentral, cheras d) maxim mall and residence, cheras behind cheras sentral e) times square, kl f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening g) 1 south, seri kembangan h) etc malls poised to prosper: a) new IOI mall, putrajaya b) mid valley, kl c) low yat mall( of course LYN forum too) d)sun velocity mall e)tesco midah f)tesco ampang g) 1 utama H)the curve I) ikano power center j) etc please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice.. How about sunway putra mall... And the uptown starling mall? And another upcoming mall along Jalan sultan Ismail n near heritage row. Me n client got invited went site visit last year. Many said its gonna be one of the hot spot mall. But their site visit preparation very bad. Got their whole project floor plan too. So on hold n 6c first. Not as good as setia city mall site visit. Not many can survive at setiacity mall crazy high rental rate. But ikano and curve good meh? Once u out from IKEA area other shop look so so business only. Curve inside there still macam jialat n quiet. Not many pipu inside. Only alfresco doing well. But also see keep changing tenant. This is one of my client worry about velocity mall too near Cochrane IKEA. End result may macam ikano n curve in damansara. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 24 2014, 09:38 AM |
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May 24 2014, 09:44 AM
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Add another dying mall in your list, cheras Central with jaya grocer ( phoenix plaza) although it's names as phoenix but it's doesn't turn up to be one. Haha. ...
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May 24 2014, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(SSblack @ May 24 2014, 09:44 AM) Add another dying mall in your list, cheras Central with jaya grocer ( phoenix plaza) although it's names as phoenix but it's doesn't turn up to be one. Haha. ... No one coming for auction fair@ swiss garden ah... many BBB here.. auction prop..3 storey gombakambank giving 50% off maintenance.. This post has been edited by bearbearwong: May 24 2014, 10:24 AM |
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May 24 2014, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(SSblack @ May 24 2014, 09:44 AM) Add another dying mall in your list, cheras Central with jaya grocer ( phoenix plaza) although it's names as phoenix but it's doesn't turn up to be one. Haha. ... The "PHOENIX" veli pantang 1. Try to avoid at all costs. Personal exper saw many projects named as "Phoenix" FAILED! ZERO succecss story.. |
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May 24 2014, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 24 2014, 09:01 AM) Not only viva mall... southgate... too.. axis atrium maluri.. and one glaring collapse the spark salak south.. left major anchor Personal view. AEON Maluri shld be able to survive.. and also positive about the IOI Resort City Putrajaya. I'll spend more times and $$$ here.. malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions: f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening malls poised to prosper: a) new IOI mall, putrajaya please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice.. |
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May 24 2014, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ May 24 2014, 08:14 AM) tenant quality control sibeh bad. ahpork ahkaw all can masuk rent the place. Yeah, that place is low quality residential. But got vivatel wor.last year they offer a place to my client. after go see. reject the offer liao. surrounded by flat and old kilang not far away. no good quality residential area around. very hard to sustain the business liao. access also not easy. very easy miss the turning and jialat Some more people got car. Surrounding residential important meh? I think that place is cursed coz the highway there take away the good qi |
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May 24 2014, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 24 2014, 11:54 AM) Yeah, that place is low quality residential. But got vivatel wor. Residential profile around play part of the important role. Of coz management for a mall is crucial. Macam MV surrounded by many high profile resi. Access also far better than many other malls... 1u, alamanda, bsc, bv1n2 also surrounded by good quality resi. Some more people got car. Surrounding residential important meh? I think that place is cursed coz the highway there take away the good qi More accurate.... a mall should plan to suit the resi profile around. Macam Low medium class resi need to have low medium class mall. So pipu stay around come to mall able to spend their money well there. Midvalley do it very very well on this. All under one roof. Want cheap, medium, expensive food all can be found here. They organize the areas n zoning very well n don't look jialat. Putra mall revamp.. Their major selling...kenny hill, bukit tengku n damansara height resi all are their target market..... He he...they put alot $ n hardwork to make it become 1 upscale mall. Have to c how first. Got invited by them. Coming week gonna go site visit. Good resi may not 100% guarantee success of a mall. But it sibeh very help alot n cannot be denial.. With good resi around already macam 50% of success other 50% are management, tenant select, event planing, anp n mall QC...etc. In future mall all fast food macam MCD, kfc will locate to upper-st floor. No more ground floor for them... He he. Coz want pull more crowd to upper floor. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 24 2014, 12:37 PM |
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May 24 2014, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 24 2014, 09:01 AM) Not only viva mall... southgate... too.. axis atrium maluri.. and one glaring collapse the spark salak south.. left major anchor Setia city mall predicted to collapse? Why is that?below are list of high potential collapse malls: a) viva mall, loke yew b) southgate, sg besi c) the spark, salak south d) 1 shamelin, maluri e) axis atrium *both towers, pandan f) giant mall, cheras , opposite you city g) southcity mall, seri kembangan h) kenanga wholesale city, kl g) brem mall, kepong (tenants terminating tenancy) h) ss2 mall, petaling jaya I) giant mall, connought ucsi j) carrefour mall, the queens avenue( opposite sunvelocity) k)aeon, bandar mahkota cheras l)scott gargen, klang lama m) any more malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions: a) 1 almerin mall, balakong b) setia city mall, setia alam c) cheras sentral, cheras d) maxim mall and residence, cheras behind cheras sentral e) times square, kl f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening g) 1 south, seri kembangan h) etc malls poised to prosper: a) new IOI mall, putrajaya b) mid valley, kl c) low yat mall( of course LYN forum too) d)sun velocity mall e)tesco midah f)tesco ampang g) 1 utama H)the curve I) ikano power center j) etc please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice.. Anyway new IOI mall at Putrajaya should be able to pull the crowd from bangi kajang putrajaya and cyberjaya. Thats a big market out there and the mall will be the closest to them. |
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May 24 2014, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 24 2014, 10:01 AM) Not only viva mall... southgate... too.. axis atrium maluri.. and one glaring collapse the spark salak south.. left major anchor Sick mall pls addbelow are list of high potential collapse malls: a) viva mall, loke yew b) southgate, sg besi c) the spark, salak south d) 1 shamelin, maluri e) axis atrium *both towers, pandan f) giant mall, cheras , opposite you city g) southcity mall, seri kembangan h) kenanga wholesale city, kl g) brem mall, kepong (tenants terminating tenancy) h) ss2 mall, petaling jaya I) giant mall, connought ucsi j) carrefour mall, the queens avenue( opposite sunvelocity) k)aeon, bandar mahkota cheras l)scott gargen, klang lama m) any more malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions: a) 1 almerin mall, balakong b) setia city mall, setia alam c) cheras sentral, cheras d) maxim mall and residence, cheras behind cheras sentral e) times square, kl f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening g) 1 south, seri kembangan h) etc malls poised to prosper: a) new IOI mall, putrajaya b) mid valley, kl c) low yat mall( of course LYN forum too) d)sun velocity mall e)tesco midah f)tesco ampang g) 1 utama H)the curve I) ikano power center j) etc please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice.. okr pearl point .plaza oug.metro kajang .pandan indah mpaj mall. posper pls add robertson mall. Mont kiara kl south mall. Youcity mall. Cheras leisule mall. Shah alam city center mall. Bukit tinggi mall. Gm klang mall. This post has been edited by tikaram: May 24 2014, 02:12 PM |
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 24 2014, 02:07 PM) Sick mall pls add why all MMM..okr pearl point .plaza oug.metro kajang .pandan indah mpaj mall. posper pls add robertson mall. Mont kiara kl south mall. Youcity mall. Cheras leisule mall. Shah alam city center mall. Bukit tinggi mall. Gm klang mall. landed.. lake field~! good good buy~!!!! |
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Setia City Mall wont collapse la. Just won award 2 days ago somemore.
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 24 2014, 02:07 PM) Sick mall pls add Taiko, where is this shah alam city center mall located?okr pearl point .plaza oug.metro kajang .pandan indah mpaj mall. posper pls add robertson mall. Mont kiara kl south mall. Youcity mall. Cheras leisule mall. Shah alam city center mall. Bukit tinggi mall. Gm klang mall. |
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ May 24 2014, 04:35 PM) Setia City Mall wont collapse la. Just won award 2 days ago somemore. Only outside lahh.. the afterwork pub .. go inside and see..Scott Garden too packed till no parking most of the time. of course.. does that make setia alam population more? Less population less business.. rentals there arekilling.. to have open in full .. if bad 6 months you see signs of shops closing.. |
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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ May 24 2014, 12:26 PM) Setia city mall predicted to collapse? Why is that? But giant equine park and jusco equine park nyawa nyawa ikan lor..Anyway new IOI mall at Putrajaya should be able to pull the crowd from bangi kajang putrajaya and cyberjaya. Thats a big market out there and the mall will be the closest to them. bangi avenue.. |
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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ May 24 2014, 12:26 PM) Setia city mall predicted to collapse? Why is that? Bangi kajang semenyih putrajaya cyberjaya residents spend all money on properties liao. Why got extra money for shopping le? Anyway new IOI mall at Putrajaya should be able to pull the crowd from bangi kajang putrajaya and cyberjaya. Thats a big market out there and the mall will be the closest to them. Ong mall....bangsar village and bangsar shopping centre. |
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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ May 24 2014, 10:16 PM) Bangi kajang semenyih putrajaya cyberjaya residents spend all money on properties liao. Why got extra money for shopping le? Ong mall....bangsar village and bangsar shopping centre. wrong ppl in semenyih , bangi, kajang, cheras bought properties and spend money in shopping malls nearby them poor SS2 mall: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry68376602 |
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My worst property invesment decesion is not buying enough
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my worst property investment is 3elements by tititjaya.
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QUOTE(dzila_87 @ Feb 14 2017, 06:51 PM) my worst property investment is 3elements by tititjaya. ANYTHING FROM MAYLAND DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BAD INVESTMENT. QUALITY WILL ALSO BE BAD. EXAMPLE DAMANSARA FORESTA.suppose to vp on july 2016, until now no news but the building has been completed. when I called, they said end of this month. after end of month, call again said another month. |
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Feb 14 2017, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(hybridliken @ Feb 14 2017, 09:05 PM) ANYTHING FROM MAYLAND DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BAD INVESTMENT. QUALITY WILL ALSO BE BAD. EXAMPLE DAMANSARA FORESTA. Perhaps u havent met anyone make good money from mayland developments.Quality is not important as location and entry price. U see empire damansara ......quality sucks...but 1st batch buyers all laughing their ways to the bank. 1st batch buyers of foresta also untung kau kau.....unless u r the 3rd block buyer. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Feb 15 2017, 12:00 AM) Perhaps u havent met anyone make good money from mayland developments. Couldnt agree his statement, Regalia make good money. Mayland products way better than many tom n Jerry developer, defects is very common things, I bought their royal domain subsale, I am happy with it Quality is not important as location and entry price. U see empire damansara ......quality sucks...but 1st batch buyers all laughing their ways to the bank. 1st batch buyers of foresta also untung kau kau.....unless u r the 3rd block buyer. |
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QUOTE(kelchai @ Feb 16 2017, 02:29 PM) L&G is controlled by Maylandhttp://www.bfm.my/breakfast-grille-low-gay...ral-berhad.html |
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QUOTE(urbanite @ Feb 16 2017, 10:45 PM) The management of L&G still far better than Mayland despite mayland as one of the substaintial shareholder, being a cash rich company with quality product delivery. |
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Macam talking the diff btw malton and pavillion or
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so for sub-sales forget about the developer bad workmanship because the first owner should rectified the defect with the developer already. can i say so ?
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Feb 16 2017, 11:53 PM) so for sub-sales forget about the developer bad workmanship because the first owner should rectified the defect with the developer already. can i say so ? Depends...Some buyer buys foe flip i dun think they care much abt defects. Also even they did submit and rectify some defects...when it sold aubsale...the warranty automatically void....and wouldnt pass down to the aubsale buyer even if its within the 1st 2 yrs. Some developers do honour the warranty...but legally they dun have to. |
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QUOTE(kelchai @ Feb 16 2017, 11:39 PM) The management of L&G still far better than Mayland despite mayland as one of the substaintial shareholder, being a cash rich company with quality product delivery. I never visited foreata...But reading from foreata thread some buyers pretty upset abt the quality...... And the low or none appreciation from purchase price especially the later phases. This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Feb 17 2017, 12:08 AM |
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Legendary Talam.
http://fgb.org.sg/product/tan-sri-dato-dr-chan-ah-chye/ http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/chan...form-rises-1441 Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye: Well, I came to the Lord about five years ago (2011). Before that, I was a very staunch Buddhist. In fact, I was chairman of various temple committees. I built one of the biggest Buddhist temples in the country. And blablabla shyt happened to this China man company. Lastly, We find that with this Scripture, the Lord is trying to test us, humble us, and teach us. Of course our walk with God will strengthen us. And we have been using the Word of God to apply to every situation in solving our financial and business problems ever since. (Getting Back Up From Billion-Dollar Failures – Interview with Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye) http://www.leadership.com.sg/leaders-chat/...s/#.WPZKRhywrqA Seriously, wtf... This post has been edited by heavensea: Apr 19 2017, 01:23 AM |
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3rd phaae risen to Rm900k for 1400sf units and still there were investors truly amazing
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Who cares bout quality when u can just flip and easily make Rm200k few years ago especially subsel udr warranty some developers will honour to next owner..i tink it is xtremely simplicistic to say "any pojek frum XX deveoloper" or bad quLity etc
I would say "any pojek frum Top developers starting end 2014 " would likely remain same market value or even dropped significantly upon completion since 2015 2016 Unlucky ones who bought super overpriced studios eg M-Suites at Jln Ampang taken a big hit even thought bought during boom times tink in 2011..at the time the company pomoting "easy rental to expatriates" But than we all knw wat happendd the oil prices and they all left |
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Anyone goreng County Heigh or Garden poprrty i tink located at Johor Kajang??
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Apr 19 2017, 01:21 AM) Legendary Talam. Lol! When I read this, it seems that he turned to Christianity because Buddha did not help him in recovering his moolah. http://fgb.org.sg/product/tan-sri-dato-dr-chan-ah-chye/ http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/chan...form-rises-1441 Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye: Well, I came to the Lord about five years ago (2011). Before that, I was a very staunch Buddhist. In fact, I was chairman of various temple committees. I built one of the biggest Buddhist temples in the country. And blablabla shyt happened to this China man company. Lastly, We find that with this Scripture, the Lord is trying to test us, humble us, and teach us. Of course our walk with God will strengthen us. And we have been using the Word of God to apply to every situation in solving our financial and business problems ever since. (Getting Back Up From Billion-Dollar Failures – Interview with Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye) http://www.leadership.com.sg/leaders-chat/...s/#.WPZKRhywrqA Seriously, wtf... Reminded me of the prosperity gospel by a certain religion group in SG 👏👏👏 |
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When goodness taken to extreme will turn evil..when evil taken to extrreme will turn good..thus Stay in the Middle Path = copyrighted Buddha
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According to napic, total number of incoming supply and planned supply of condo in kl is equivalent to about 50% of existing stock. Worst property investment has yet to happen to many. |
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Apr 19 2017, 02:21 AM) Legendary Talam. seriously WTF>..... http://fgb.org.sg/product/tan-sri-dato-dr-chan-ah-chye/ http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/chan...form-rises-1441 Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye: Well, I came to the Lord about five years ago (2011). Before that, I was a very staunch Buddhist. In fact, I was chairman of various temple committees. I built one of the biggest Buddhist temples in the country. And blablabla shyt happened to this China man company. Lastly, We find that with this Scripture, the Lord is trying to test us, humble us, and teach us. Of course our walk with God will strengthen us. And we have been using the Word of God to apply to every situation in solving our financial and business problems ever since. (Getting Back Up From Billion-Dollar Failures – Interview with Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye) http://www.leadership.com.sg/leaders-chat/...s/#.WPZKRhywrqA Seriously, wtf... |
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In the late 90s, my parents bought a 4000 sq ft land in Bandar Akademia, Lenggeng.
If I recall correctly, about RM90k was paid and the price is about 120k today. The plot of land there is still empty and maybe only 2% of the owners have built a house there but most of them are still unoccupied. |
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Read The Bintang paper today in BintangBuz "Poperty prices remain steady"
The "title" looks rosy but inside the data will scare u |
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QUOTE(poker @ Apr 19 2017, 01:44 PM) In the late 90s, my parents bought a 4000 sq ft land in Bandar Akademia, Lenggeng. And myself had bought the house at the same area (now call as Mahkota Hills) under UML**d for 22x75 with 2040 sqft nett RM423k! Now just realise it really OVERPRICE...😢😢😢If I recall correctly, about RM90k was paid and the price is about 120k today. The plot of land there is still empty and maybe only 2% of the owners have built a house there but most of them are still unoccupied. |
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QUOTE(poker @ Apr 19 2017, 01:44 PM) In the late 90s, my parents bought a 4000 sq ft land in Bandar Akademia, Lenggeng. I tot now is better? Still empty? If I recall correctly, about RM90k was paid and the price is about 120k today. The plot of land there is still empty and maybe only 2% of the owners have built a house there but most of them are still unoccupied. |
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Dalam. Alert for those bbb new developments due to PRICE FACTOR only without further consideration. Whatever's meant to happen always does, but everyone can choose side before it happened. This post has been edited by heavensea: Apr 23 2017, 12:28 AM |
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Stimes it's not too bad to pay a bit premium to buy subsales. I luv subsales props cos they hav proven rekod. Small premium is fine.
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I wonder if we have access to the inside circle of developers, their conversation would be something like this:
Dev A: Wah dui, this Aset Kayamas think who they are, come in build cheap cheap properties and lose money, now my company also cannot sell because all buyers go Aset Kayamas way already. Wtf Dev B: WAH LAU I haven't tell you yet, my registration and waiting list we wait 5 months to collect and spend 2 million to advertise on the Star front page now suddenly all become cold already, must be Aset lah curi our buyers. This one really too much liao Dev C: Duiiiiiiiii lo )$*(&%)!@(#*%)(!*#%)(@*$% Dec D: Eh by the way, this one your friend is it? Last time same gang with that other guy in government, now get big big favour and build record in 5 years what most developer take 20 years to achieve.. I suspect must be he owe him big big big favour, I wonder what.. lol. |
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QUOTE(kh_lim @ Jun 13 2017, 04:11 PM) The said 3 hour .. actually spend a few month heavy marketing by agent with "PRELAUNCH" "PREBOOK" with some deposit. And than .. arrange all to come select their unit on the actual launch day. Some story was told, they collected 700+ deposit. But only 1 block, 400+ open to select. The other all in waiting list. |
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QUOTE(stevenX @ Jun 13 2017, 04:44 PM) The said 3 hour .. Good marketing strategy by collecting booking in advance. With that, they can earn interests by using buyer's deposit eventhough no guarantee can get upon booking.actually spend a few month heavy marketing by agent with "PRELAUNCH" "PREBOOK" with some deposit. And than .. arrange all to come select their unit on the actual launch day. Some story was told, they collected 700+ deposit. But only 1 block, 400+ open to select. The other all in waiting list. |
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QUOTE(stevenX @ Jun 13 2017, 04:44 PM) The said 3 hour .. Developers are good at playing herd sentiment.actually spend a few month heavy marketing by agent with "PRELAUNCH" "PREBOOK" with some deposit. And than .. arrange all to come select their unit on the actual launch day. Some story was told, they collected 700+ deposit. But only 1 block, 400+ open to select. The other all in waiting list. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Feb 17 2017, 12:07 AM) I never visited foreata... that's why now is the best timing to get one unit there. But reading from foreata thread some buyers pretty upset abt the quality...... And the low or none appreciation from purchase price especially the later phases. saw the transcations in brickz almost selling at launching price or below. as long as those bad quality things are repairable, it will be catching up sooner or later. |
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QUOTE(angel_investor @ May 19 2019, 11:49 PM) Who is the guru? |
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QUOTE(angel_investor @ May 19 2019, 11:49 PM) Are you one of those who invested in this?Seriously did you not do any due diligence before signing up your hard earned money for this? |
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QUOTE(angel_investor @ May 20 2019, 12:49 AM) thanks for sharing... was about to engage the service of this airbnb management company |
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QUOTE(angel_investor @ May 19 2019, 11:49 PM) I never expect Gland also involved in giving extravaganza rebate to sell Robertson. |
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QUOTE(angel_investor @ May 19 2019, 11:49 PM) a pricey story. |
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QUOTE(angel_investor @ May 19 2019, 11:49 PM) Not everyone’s ‘worst’ is the same.For them, this is the ‘best’. At least that’s what he said. |
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QUOTE(mangoproperty @ May 20 2019, 04:17 PM) For the syndicate and guru, maybe this is one of their best investment. Investors need to learn there is no shortcut in property investment. Otherwise all hard earned money will just go into elsewhere pocket. |
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QUOTE(gks @ May 20 2019, 05:15 PM) For the syndicate and guru, maybe this is one of their best investment. This was not what uuu/bbb advocated during poorlery bull run.Investors need to learn there is no shortcut in property investment. Otherwise all hard earned money will just go into elsewhere pocket. |
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Those just vp mostly becoming this topic.
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I'm sure this year and next year this thread will become even more popular.
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Worst?
Property Name : The Avare. Location : KLCC. Price paid in 2008 : RM7XXpsf (with a small rebate) Size : 3800sf. Price sold in 2019 : RM830psf after trying for 2 years. That however wasn't the worst part to it. The actual worse thing of it was the shocking build quality for such a development. Promised a 6* but given at best a 3* quality. Upon VP many things did not work with the unit and it was leaky as well. Defects? Took forever to rectify and a few times the rectification made it worse. All the owners filed a class action suit against the developer, by then the word had long spread far and wide, place sucked and as such values started tanking. Thankfully for much of its time under my ownership it was never vacant. Therefore rental covered the maintenance and commitments. Total spent on repairs and maintenance from VP to disposal : RM46000 Good riddance piece of shit. You WON'T be missed. Lesson learned : Never EVER buy a property especially a high end property from a developer you never heard off, you do not trust and have doubts they could deliver. |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 20 2019, 09:54 PM) Worst? One of the main reasons why I never buy new developments. Reputable developers always sell at a huge premium, and the unknown ones almost always deliver shoddy work.Property Name : The Avare. Location : KLCC. Price paid in 2008 : RM7XXpsf (with a small rebate) Size : 3800sf. Price sold in 2019 : RM830psf after trying for 2 years. That however wasn't the worst part to it. The actual worse thing of it was the shocking build quality for such a development. Promised a 6* but given at best a 3* quality. Upon VP many things did not work with the unit and it was leaky as well. Defects? Took forever to rectify and a few times the rectification made it worse. All the owners filed a class action suit against the developer, by then the word had long spread far and wide, place sucked and as such values started tanking. Thankfully for much of its time under my ownership it was never vacant. Therefore rental covered the maintenance and commitments. Total spent on repairs and maintenance from VP to disposal : RM46000 Good riddance piece of shit. You WON'T be missed. Lesson learned : Never EVER buy a property especially a high end property from a developer you never heard off, you do not trust and have doubts they could deliver. |
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QUOTE(BeastB @ May 20 2019, 10:05 PM) One of the main reasons why I never buy new developments. Reputable developers always sell at a huge premium, and the unknown ones almost always deliver shoddy work. I purchased a contra-unit and it was a fairly decent amount off at that time. Yeah but lesson learned on this account. |
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QUOTE(David_77 @ May 21 2019, 12:46 AM) Actually, I think she will just recycle her posting. She cannot do crystal ball one. She always gives 20/20 hindsight. I try to be kind to everyone but I believe you are right the next thing to come from her would be all the BBB/UUU are in the herd and destined to be slaughtered while she continues to write her project paper.Boss, you are so kind hearted to her 🙏 |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 12:54 AM) I try to be kind to everyone but I believe you are right the next thing to come from her would be all the BBB/UUU are in the herd and destined to be slaughtered while she continues to write her project paper. 🤣🤣🤣 wonder what kind of project paper she is writing. Some said the Bible was written over 1500 years by 40 writers. Hope we get to read the paper before meeting our Makers 🙏 |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 20 2019, 11:40 PM) It'd be good if you post something we did not already know. His comments always consist of the following buzzwords:Could you please at least use your left brain and add some creativity to your contributions at least? blood, opaque, illiquid, knee, bottom, floor, sight, hype, poorperly, stagnant, bullrun, etc. I mean, its even hard for me to be as not creative as him... |
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QUOTE(David_77 @ May 21 2019, 12:29 AM) If your blood is on the floor.QUOTE(lollipopkan @ May 21 2019, 12:59 AM) His comments always consist of the following buzzwords: a summary of poorperly market.blood, opaque, illiquid, knee, bottom, floor, sight, hype, poorperly, stagnant, bullrun, etc. I mean, its even hard for me to be as not creative as him... This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 21 2019, 02:22 AM |
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haha..how about d'sara sentral ? i wondering how is it going there.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 10:21 AM) Ok at least something new now, oh actually it isn’t. The important part is why take almost 10yrs for 1 paper 😂😂😂Wonder if she herself gets bored of the same comments day in day out. What paper she is writing? Probably something along the lines of a lot of nothing. |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 10:21 AM) Ok at least something new now, oh actually it isn’t. I now very stress. She said it’s blood knee deep if my blood is on the floor. Wonder if she herself gets bored of the same comments day in day out. What paper she is writing? Probably something along the lines of a lot of nothing. So in order not to do it, I must make sure my blood is not on the floor. But then, how can she buys when it’s not blood knee deep? Aiyoh! Susah sangatlah 😅 |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 21 2019, 11:28 AM) Hope you are not drunk. You said it’s good to buy when it’s blood knee deep and it’s blood knee deep if my blood is in the floor. Now you said as if I’m the investor? But if I’m not the investor, then how does your first statement applies? Aiyoh! I’m so confuse. 🤔🤔🤔 |
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QUOTE(David_77 @ May 21 2019, 11:43 AM) Hope you are not drunk. View from outside coconut shell is wider. until you are out from coconut shell, your vision is narrow.You said it’s good to buy when it’s blood knee deep and it’s blood knee deep if my blood is in the floor. Now you said as if I’m the investor? But if I’m not the investor, then how does your first statement applies? Aiyoh! I’m so confuse. 🤔🤔🤔 |
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 21 2019, 10:49 AM) That you have to ask her, what I do know is my missus arrived here from Finland in 2008, armed with a Bachelor level degree and a teaching assistant license. She did her Masters by thesis and then started working for 3 years and started on her PhD by research. Last year she was awarded her doctorate and this August she will start a new job that is relevant to her field of research. Funded 50% by the institution that awarded the doctorate, 25% from her government and 25% from yours truly (which I made her earn from properties) QUOTE(David_77 @ May 21 2019, 11:18 AM) I now very stress. She said it’s blood knee deep if my blood is on the floor. Susahnya some people, first it was a pee fetish now there is a blood fetish too. Oh gawd hope next isn't a puss and faeces fetish we find out she has.So in order not to do it, I must make sure my blood is not on the floor. But then, how can she buys when it’s not blood knee deep? Aiyoh! Susah sangatlah 😅 |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 01:34 PM) That you have to ask her, what I do know is my missus arrived here from Finland in 2008, armed with a Bachelor level degree and a teaching assistant license. She did her Masters by thesis and then started working for 3 years and started on her PhD by research. Last year she was awarded her doctorate and this August she will start a new job that is relevant to her field of research. Funded 50% by the institution that awarded the doctorate, 25% from her government and 25% from yours truly (which I made her earn from properties) ManutdGiggs is the pee fetish and the episode was started by him. if you track back, you will find many uuu/bbb are puss and faeces fetish.Susahnya some people, first it was a pee fetish now there is a blood fetish too. Oh gawd hope next isn't a puss and faeces fetish we find out she has. |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 01:34 PM) Susahnya some people, first it was a pee fetish now there is a blood fetish too. Oh gawd hope next isn't a puss and faeces fetish we find out she has. |
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I think managing to rile up so many until ALL of the regular commenters r responding is a feat itself. Let me put that as an accomplishment.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 01:34 PM) That you have to ask her, what I do know is my missus arrived here from Finland in 2008, armed with a Bachelor level degree and a teaching assistant license. She did her Masters by thesis and then started working for 3 years and started on her PhD by research. Last year she was awarded her doctorate and this August she will start a new job that is relevant to her field of research. Funded 50% by the institution that awarded the doctorate, 25% from her government and 25% from yours truly (which I made her earn from properties) She's so smart! |
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A lot of gullible people have been manipulated by some evil people. I keep warning, but nobody is listening.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 21 2019, 02:11 PM) ManutdGiggs is the pee fetish and the episode was started by him. if you track back, you will find many uuu/bbb are puss and faeces fetish. Started or not but it was you who carried on with it which leads me to believe, yeah. QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 21 2019, 02:28 PM) QUOTE(David_77 @ May 21 2019, 02:45 PM) When she writes and writes but till no end, either the paper nor purpose, am sure the inner fetish will come out 😏 Well I am sure she will be doing loads of R&D, receiving and duplicating. Turnitin would give her a 100% score |
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To get back to the topic, any new insights on property investments around Alam Impian, Semenyih, Rawang, Denai Alam etc? Are they actually stagnant or the price trend is moving downwards?
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Developer: putrajaya holdings Was working in putrajaya so I thought I should buy a condominium there since gomen employees get 25% off. Signed snp july 2015. Until now project not finished. Keep on delaying. I have been paying full installments as gomen loan start full deduction from 25 months of first payment. Thought pjh would be a responsible developer, but same problem with most Malay developer. Give project to subcontractors, then subcontractors lari🤦♂️ |
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QUOTE(kyuzo @ May 24 2019, 06:44 PM) Name: aura residence presint 8, putrajaya Subcontractors receive payment according to work done. More likely developer didn't pay subcontractors and subcontractors couldn't sustain.Developer: putrajaya holdings Was working in putrajaya so I thought I should buy a condominium there since gomen employees get 25% off. Signed snp july 2015. Until now project not finished. Keep on delaying. I have been paying full installments as gomen loan start full deduction from 25 months of first payment. Thought pjh would be a responsible developer, but same problem with most Malay developer. Give project to subcontractors, then subcontractors lari🤦♂️ This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 24 2019, 07:41 PM |
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 21 2019, 02:34 PM) That you have to ask her, what I do know is my missus arrived here from Finland in 2008, armed with a Bachelor level degree and a teaching assistant license. She did her Masters by thesis and then started working for 3 years and started on her PhD by research. Last year she was awarded her doctorate and this August she will start a new job that is relevant to her field of research. Funded 50% by the institution that awarded the doctorate, 25% from her government and 25% from yours truly (which I made her earn from properties) please show us a pic of you and your missus....Susahnya some people, first it was a pee fetish now there is a blood fetish too. Oh gawd hope next isn't a puss and faeces fetish we find out she has. |
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How about Empire Damansara?
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Behind Nottingham Uni. Last time ong ong but now a lot empty house and some got grow forest inside already..
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 24 2014, 09:01 AM) Not only viva mall... southgate... too.. axis atrium maluri.. and one glaring collapse the spark salak south.. left major anchor Quite accurate prediction back then.. Except for setia city mall which is still doing okaybelow are list of high potential collapse malls: a) viva mall, loke yew b) southgate, sg besi c) the spark, salak south d) 1 shamelin, maluri e) axis atrium *both towers, pandan f) giant mall, cheras , opposite you city g) southcity mall, seri kembangan h) kenanga wholesale city, kl g) brem mall, kepong (tenants terminating tenancy) h) ss2 mall, petaling jaya I) giant mall, connought ucsi j) carrefour mall, the queens avenue( opposite sunvelocity) k)aeon, bandar mahkota cheras l)scott gargen, klang lama m) any more malls under construction constructed poised to collapse bomoh predictions: a) 1 almerin mall, balakong b) setia city mall, setia alam c) cheras sentral, cheras d) maxim mall and residence, cheras behind cheras sentral e) times square, kl f) aeon, maluri upon velocity opening g) 1 south, seri kembangan h) etc malls poised to prosper: a) new IOI mall, putrajaya b) mid valley, kl c) low yat mall( of course LYN forum too) d)sun velocity mall e)tesco midah f)tesco ampang g) 1 utama H)the curve I) ikano power center j) etc please contribute more.. I found 1 similarities malls mostly at risk of collapsing has GIANT malls.. I notice.. |
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QUOTE(kyuzo @ May 24 2019, 06:44 PM) Name: aura residence presint 8, putrajaya u get a lot of LAD from developer?Developer: putrajaya holdings Was working in putrajaya so I thought I should buy a condominium there since gomen employees get 25% off. Signed snp july 2015. Until now project not finished. Keep on delaying. I have been paying full installments as gomen loan start full deduction from 25 months of first payment. Thought pjh would be a responsible developer, but same problem with most Malay developer. Give project to subcontractors, then subcontractors lari🤦♂️ |
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Oct 22 2020, 10:05 PM) Shops Closing Down in JB https://youtu.be/kriFQK4UGok EDIT: To be fair to Johorean friends, decided to change the misleading title. QUOTE(LamboSama @ Oct 22 2020, 10:10 PM) You can find those everywhere. Ipoh, Kuantan, Seremban also got. More like oversupply of shoplots. Also more like Kota Kemuning https://www.iproperty.com.my/bm/properti/ko...e/rent-7320859/ TS spread fake news no fact check QUOTE(pg84 @ Oct 22 2020, 10:20 PM) QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 22 2020, 11:35 PM) QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 22 2020, 11:37 PM) but many restaurant at taman pelangi,sentosa,sro tebrau,abad closed right???? This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 22 2020, 11:42 PMBukit indah,mount austin,taman sutera,mutiara rini,.... |
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Oct 23 2020, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(KCY3701 @ Oct 23 2020, 12:51 PM) The one directly behind Nottingham. TTS 5. Not sure bout the crime rate since didn't experience anything bad. But hard to rent out laThis post has been edited by xSphina: Oct 23 2020, 07:09 PM |
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Oct 23 2020, 07:55 PM
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Oct 23 2020, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(PureWhite69 @ Oct 23 2020, 07:06 AM) Read the whole thing herehttps://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4759778/+1800 Basically its like this, a lot of property gurus 'overpromised the future of property investment'. So a lot of greedy people ended up over committing beyond their means, and a lot of young adults declared bankruptcy. Advice: when you start hearing everyone talking about it, you know that it is a bubble and should start planning your exit strategy. PureWhite69 liked this post
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Oct 23 2020, 11:06 PM
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Oct 24 2020, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Oct 23 2020, 09:30 PM) Read the whole thing here Sound like a good advice. Tqhttps://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4759778/+1800 Basically its like this, a lot of property gurus 'overpromised the future of property investment'. So a lot of greedy people ended up over committing beyond their means, and a lot of young adults declared bankruptcy. Advice: when you start hearing everyone talking about it, you know that it is a bubble and should start planning your exit strategy. |
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Oct 24 2020, 11:02 AM
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got a few new traps coming up.. For example GEMPOX at Nilai
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Oct 24 2020, 12:49 PM
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lol and dont forget the classic one packaging leasehold better than freehold out of the city
imagine holding a million ringgit asset that depreciates and does not worth shit when refinance. |
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Oct 24 2020, 01:23 PM
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Oct 24 2020, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(AnasM @ Oct 24 2020, 01:23 PM) Because everybody also think to rent to the students... Then who become the student? sourcream47 liked this post
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Oct 24 2020, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Oct 24 2020, 12:49 PM) lol and dont forget the classic one packaging leasehold better than freehold out of the city Most shoplots and office attached to serviced apartment end up like this.. 1m++ loan but empty can't sell can't rent outimagine holding a million ringgit asset that depreciates and does not worth shit when refinance. |
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Oct 24 2020, 08:05 PM
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Oct 26 2020, 10:12 AM
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Feb 2 2024, 01:50 PM
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