Sociology bengali and punjabi
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 Oct 13 2010, 04:26 PM
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The actual Bengali you are referring is what we know now as "Bangla". Bangladeshis do not wear turban and most of them are Muslims.
Punjabi is an ethnic/race but Sikhs is a religious group of that consists mainly Punjabis. |
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Oct 13 2010, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(faceless @ Oct 13 2010, 04:31 PM) Naruto, hmm from the Indian history books I've read, there are minority Punjabis who lived in Bangladesh (well, there was no Bangladesh at that time, refer to the area you've explained earlier).Perhaps they did during the colonial days.  From such knowledge, many Chinese immigrants (well, referring to that time) thought that they are the "Bengali" because they did come from Bengal (modern day Bangladesh) region - while in fact, they are minority Punjabi living in that mentioned region. |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Oct 14 2010, 04:33 PM) so... is Benggali is an offensive term? i think its offensive, i never dare to say the word Benggali to my Sikh friends Oh, you just got their ethnicity wrong... even more incorrect, Sikh is a religious group, not an ethnic. |
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Oct 14 2010, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Toriton @ Oct 14 2010, 05:02 PM) why then we call Portuguese as Benggali Putih.... they are not from Bengal because Malaccan thought they are from India... well the first Portugese visited Malacca came from Goa. |
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Oct 21 2010, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(faceless @ Oct 21 2010, 04:14 PM) Now I wonder why Indians are called Keling. Anyone has a decent speculation. Malays have been calling Indians (anyone from India or Indian descent) as Keling for centuries.In the old days - India is known as "Benua Keling" (southern India to be exact) Kamus Dewan Bahasa has full explanation: http://prpm.dbp.gov.my/Search.aspx?k=keling Possible reference is Kalinga. This post has been edited by najminaruto: Oct 21 2010, 06:58 PM |
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Oct 22 2010, 06:40 PM
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Keling was never meant to degrade Indians or Indians descents...
In the old days, it was never derogatory, in fact it's the correct word for someone who is Indian. Maybe it just the change from using the word India from Keling made this happens? Hmm, who want to debunk this mystery now? QUOTE(faceless @ Oct 22 2010, 11:08 AM) Thanks Naruto, IDK, maybe the Indians brought the "nail" technology to South East Asia. In the old days, no building here actually use nail, because there is no such invention yet...So, it is actually Inida's old name during the Kalinga empire. I am intrigued by the other explaination in the link you gave "keling I - IB paku besi yg berkepala dua (utk melekatkan dua keping besi); mengeling melekatkan (menyatukan) besi dgn menggunakan keling." BTW it could derived from the English word "cling" - because the nail is a two-headed nail, which "clings" together. Possible... This post has been edited by najminaruto: Oct 22 2010, 06:47 PM |
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Nov 1 2010, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(rehan657 @ Oct 29 2010, 10:20 PM) Bangladesh is an Independent Country and all the Bangladeshi people are know as Bangladeshi That doesn't really answer the confusion/common misconcepcion raised in the first post.The official language of Bangladesh is Bengali, the world mother language day 21st february is from Bangladeshi official language Bengali. At 1952 Bangladeshi people fought with Pakistan for the right to have Bengali as their official language and 21st February 1952 they got their deserved right. In India there is a state named West bengal and citizens of the state speak Bengali language. All the people around the world speaking bengali language is known as Bangali. And I believe there should be no confusion anymore. QUOTE(quintessential @ Nov 1 2010, 12:12 AM) lots of malaysians failed to realize that not all punjabis are sikh. in fact, majority of punjabis are muslims and they are residing in punjab region in pakistan. yes, punjab is divided into 2 regions thanks to religious conflict. yes we know that, but what caused such misconcepcion among Malaysians (mostly Chinese, hence the word "Bangkali")? |
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