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theCrab
post Oct 19 2010, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 19 2010, 12:57 PM)
Mon Wed - weight lifting, biceps chest, back and abs
Tues and thurs - body pump
fri - yoga

how?
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shocking.gif You said you're bulking
but no legs ?
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post Oct 19 2010, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 19 2010, 05:36 PM)
legs only for body pump classessss


Added on October 19, 2010, 5:37 pm

biceps curls (45 pounds, 5 x 5 )
chests (the olypic bar, 7kg, 5x5)
Tues and thurs - body pump ( 5 and 7 kgs)


Added on October 19, 2010, 5:38 pm

my leg isnt bad ler (syiok sendiri first before kena flamming)
hehe wil post up pics soon
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blink.gif no anymore compound such as deadlift or squat ?
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post Oct 28 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Oct 28 2010, 05:12 PM)
stiff dead lift, is it same with romanian deadlift?
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nop
romanian deadlift more to the glutes and hamstring

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post Nov 8 2010, 10:10 PM

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hi mentors
just to ask
when we are doing deadlift,the weight plate supposed to touch the floor only consider a full reps ?
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post Nov 9 2010, 11:44 PM

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hi all,is DIP going too low hurts shoulder?
I feel shoulder is involve when doing dip,lower chest of course
any potential harm ?

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post Nov 11 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Nov 11 2010, 02:53 PM)
Shoulders play the stabilizing role in doing dips.
and what do you mean by saying "doing too low"?
upper arm parallel to floor or slightly below parallel to floor is deemed as correct form.
but that is if everything else is also done properly with out elbows flaring out and such SHOULD NOT hurt the shoulders.
if shoulders pain means form is not right.


Added on November 11, 2010, 2:55 pm
The "how it works" on their website doesnt even explain it properly. just blalance body energy and crap. geeze.
at least those quantum pendant people do a better job at explaining it
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thanks alot for your reply
means when dipping,elbow should keep inwards?
well i mean going too low is when i leaning my chest outwards and i really go all the way down

shocking.gif my left knees feel akward when doing front squat
form should be alright,knees not over toes...weird..weight overload?

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post Nov 11 2010, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Nov 11 2010, 06:59 PM)
i dunno how to explain the elbows just with text, and i dun have pics with me.
u can search online on the form... or basically, i tjust means elbows dont move in/out at all when doing dips

awkward as in pain?
if pain means form is wrong, or ur knee is not in good shape (injured before?)
full squat? parallel squat?
got do enough warm ups?
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its parallel,to 90 degree
well just now i went to try again
i try to open wider,and remove all the stress to hip and quads.it seems MUCH better
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post Nov 15 2010, 12:35 AM

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are we advised to squat twice per week ? or 1 would be enough?
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post Nov 18 2010, 06:20 PM

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I am here asking 1 very silly question
and i've been googled and confused with it

Some said ,there are no such things call inner pecs ,just bring up the overall mass,your pec shape its ultimately genetical determined

Some said,doing tons for flyes and cable-cross over will developed and pump for the inner pecs

Which 1 to follow ?
and may I know upper pecs and lower pecs play what role?
lower pecs for shape ?
Would Bench Press hit the lower pecs when we are doing full ROM?

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post Nov 18 2010, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 18 2010, 09:24 PM)
gonna answer line by line;
imo, if there wasnt inner pecs why would people do flys?

yes, flys are for inner pecs

wont hurt to include flys in your exercise routine wouldn't it?

upper and lower pecs make out the whole chest area, would look inbalanced if one part is underdeveloped

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Imma gonna alternate incline flyes and decline flyes every weeks !
chest rountine is pretty simple
DIP-will do before bench press as this requires more energy
Bench Press
Incline Bench press
TADAH !! DONE ! xD
might add some back training,I train back twice for catching up progress

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post Nov 19 2010, 12:14 AM

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okay here comes another question
should we be locking out our knees when we're doing squat?

Am doing front squat today,1 huge fella come to me,and ask me to wear belt for protection,and ask me not to squat heavily(yea that time i was struggling at 140 lbs+20kg olympic bar, front squat for 5 reps)
According to him,I am not supposed to lock knees when I am standing up,I should control the movement slowly and maintain the muscle tension there.

and he did pointed out I tend to 'bounce' when I am standing up,which is stressing more to the knees.it will hurts the ligament and I will be regret after 3-4 years.squat should not be too heavy as I am not competing ,why rushing ? yes I admit it,when I am standing up I tend to bounce so the lift will be easier.but I never realized thats a cheat form and could be potential harm to my knees.

Well,kinda speaking,he's much bigger than me and least years of experience,so now...I always think that squat should be go heavier,or i should follow to this guy advise? dont lock out,go slowly..

and my feel left knees knuckles cracking when I am doing front squat..which I recheck my form,its should be shoulder stance,foot pointing outwards,hips go downs,knees not over toes....it is not pain but feel weird....

There are not over than 5 people squating in the gym room,and only 1 people who doing deadlift,thats me ! none-of any instructor there,which I barely cant find a big bodybuilder and ask for the skill helps.

Someone enligthen me , I am confused,especially the knees cracking part seriously bothering me,and I might not want to harm my knees,I know squat is way too important,but if I am doing it wrong end up this might be my last chapter of bodybuilding.I did googled,but too many version there ,confusing which 1 to follow.

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post Nov 19 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ Nov 19 2010, 10:18 AM)
You still at Priority Fitness bro?
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yes bro,haven seen you for a long time,if I am not mistaken you should 1 of the squaters in Priority too
Sadly is,no ones with nice leg development there.at least I haven meet anyone.


QUOTE(mcbarney666 @ Nov 19 2010, 11:08 AM)
How were his legs? Don't take advice from someone who professes to do squats but goes 5inches down and up. Only someone with superior legs' development should advise you, not some yob with big biceps but with chopsticks for legs and super smooth calves.

Anyhow, yeah, bouncing is no good but then again did you bounce like a rabbit? I don't think so. From experience, locking my legs screwed me up as I went down. Ended up with a really sore back.
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His legs??...
erm...I would say Ok...but its a lil bit tiny compare with his HUGE upper body.and I did see him squat before,
narrow stance then goes 45% degree,but I not sure there is any partial movement for those big guy so I dint dare to judge its a wrong form.

there are no superior legs' development in the gym.sadly say that sweat.gif neithers deadlift nor squat
bench press ,military press,barbell row.. yes there are alots out there

Yes I dont bounce like a rabbit,I was like go down slowly..then explode up...end up might locking the leg,but I dint felt any back pain from front squat.

my lower body is overweight compare with my upperbody.

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post Nov 20 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Nov 20 2010, 12:27 AM)
@thecrab and @elvenchou1987
you guys meant PF @ Ivory ? When do you guys train ?
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I met him few times,but I guess he is back to KL as what he told me
err...dont have an exact time.you training there too ?
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post Nov 20 2010, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Nov 20 2010, 07:35 PM)
yep. mornings only
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cool bro,maybe we can grab some workout sometimes !
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Nov 21 2010, 01:41 AM)
I assume you're focusing on being a bodybuilder right? not a powerlifter...
only powerlifters need to lock out the knees to show that they "completed" the move.
training for hypertrophy, no need to lock the knees, and its also better for knee health in long run.
i had to learn this the hard way. but oh well, i dont lock my knees now.

and dude, u squat pretty heavy man! nice! whats yer weight?
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yea ! training for hypertrophy,strength is a bonus !
Well I will try next week...cant wait for it !

Squatting 70 lbs per side with standard olympic bar = 63 kg + 20 kg ==93 kg
I believe everyone in the forum can almost squat above 100 kg smile.gif
am weighting at 76 kg,strength gain goes well and being squat for 10 months,never skip squat even my wrist injured and rest for 2 months.
I guess I have to put on more weight and food,seriously thats unbalance strength and size among upper body and lower body

about the left knees knuckles cracking,I dont have to care yea...it doesnt feel pain but the feel is akward..

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post Nov 21 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 21 2010, 02:14 PM)
erm, well...not trying to be nitpicky here but

isnt 63 + 20 = 83?  laugh.gif

you're wrong though, i never tried above 100kg squats, not until i get a belt.
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doh.gif thanks for the correction bro

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post Nov 21 2010, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(LadyVanity @ Nov 21 2010, 03:12 PM)
i only do till parallel but thn again im no pro, cant say i have superb leg development.
i dont free squat due to a chronic injury (no pain alrdy thanks to my superb therapist, but still mobility is not 100%), but compensate with the hack squat and vertical leg press.
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Can I know you all choosing stiff-leg deadlift instead of romanian deadlift?
Preventing overgrowth of hips ? ohmy.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 22 2010, 12:47 PM)
Nothing wrong babe. Actually even Bob Chic doesn't advocate ATG. Our mutual Terry doesn't go ATG in his squat video. A lot of aspiring bodybuilders don't understand that in the long run, heavy ATG squats become relatively counterpeoductive to bodybuilding aesthetics, taking away focus from quads and getting a bigger butt. Heck, even your boyfriend Ernie who has insane leg development for his age does just parallel Smith machine squats.

Dorian Yates' Blood and Guts video, no squats there. Our friend Wong Hong doesn't squat much but look at his out of this world leg development too. Not doing squats doesn't make one a sissy and doing them doesn't make one hardcore. =)

That being said, squats are still an insanely effective exercise, but ATG concept is way overrated.
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heck yes now I am having a overgrowth butt
though I convince myself overtime ,guys can have booty too ! tongue.gif
any brutal leg workout to avoid working on glutes by limited equip ?
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post Nov 26 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 26 2010, 08:45 PM)
Drink lots of apple juice.
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apple juice burns fat?
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post Nov 28 2010, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(elvenchou1987 @ Nov 27 2010, 12:42 PM)
Serious? Any articles where I can read bout it?
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sarcasm mode bro tongue.gif

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