Pls note, Altis 1.8 commands a high road tax of RM 200 plus per year vs RM 90 for City 1.5 per year. Insurance will be slightly cheaper.

bro, wait for the new waja replacement to come out first, then compare the specs and pricing...

can compare national car and japanese car?

proton cant even compare with hyundai as they build up at the same time, and see where is hyundai now standing in the world? and where's proton?

I already got my Altis 10.5G last week..It should be compareable to other C segment, Civic or Slyphy..

City is in same segment with Vios..

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Added on October 10, 2010, 9:19 pmMy family member sold the newCity E spec after having it for only 9months..we booked it before it was launched so we got it as first batch.

New City? 120ps looks good on paper spec, driving it is not enjoyable because of power delivery isn't that good..

NVH is poor..wind noise, tyre and road noise intrude into cabin. Arrrhh! We expect it to better than national car but a real disappointment.

Handling isn't that great despite carrying Honda power of dreams tag..already change 2 different set of aftermarket bling bling rims..upsize to 17" and 16" wider rims...CIVIC is a real contender when talk about handling..

FC? Having more extra gear ratio is only good for "highway cruising", 100kmh @ 2000rpm, 120kmh @ 2500rpm..

To thread starter, either consider Civic 1.8 or similar segment, it make difference..

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Added on October 10, 2010, 9:21 pmRefer my above posting, all this point justify to get C segment rather than B segment. CityE is not cheap too..where Slyphy comes very close in terms or pricetag, huge discount given by Nissan, up to rm8k off the pricetag..

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Added on October 10, 2010, 9:35 pmSlyphy..yes, it drive better.

CITY? Drive quality? Grip is so-so only eventhough it is fit with 185/55, 16inchers wheelie.
CITY is typical plastiky design, aircond fan and temperature dial knob, headunit console and gearshift knob..Inspiring? Hmm..personal preference.

FORD FOCUS TDCi is different segment leh

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Added on October 10, 2010, 9:38 pmDo you realize what thread starter is looking for...?He/She is looking for non national made..it is obvious and not that hard to tell a person what a person want.

I am just speaking from a perspective of a sales person..haha

This post has been edited by ralf: Oct 10 2010, 09:38 PM

Your two posts show you are so immature when giving comment on some car. My question is why are you trying to bash on some car?

Honestly, I am 22 year old today and I am driving a Toyota Corolla Altis. What is the reason for you to say the Corolla Altis is an "uncle" type of car?

You can do some modification in order to make the Corolla Altis looks much more better, or just leave it be original type.

I am not trying to bash Honda, but I can honestly tell you some "real" facts here:

Toyota
- More reliable
- Easy to maintain
- Easy to repair
- Mechanic loves Toyota engine
- High resale value

Honda
- Better interior and exterior design
- Need proper handling and maintenance
- Comfort, NHV lose to most of Toyota cars
- High resale value

Comments above are taken from popular car workshop in Penang, they are M Power and Beng San tyre workshop. Salesman also do recommend other people to buy Toyota due to the reliability of the car. Honda cars failed them a lot, so most of the salesman nowadays are using Toyota car for long running. One of the mechanic from M Power (the person who did the spring change for me) also saying that he prefer to repair Toyota engines.

Conclusion, money is yours so just go for the car you like. People at the outside can simply bash to say something bad of a car brand, why take it seriously or influence by them? If you really have RM23,000 extra budget and you think you are able to afford for Corolla Altis, then it has no harm to go for it since it is a real comfortable and reliable car. It's all up to you, make the right choice.

Gonna get my new 2.0v altis very soon @ RM82k!
BTW, I'm from Labuan, so no argue for me to get it, heheeeee

Nice, I hope you enjoy it.

Dual VVT-i 2.0L with 7-speed CVT-i gear box, it should be performed extremely great on highway cruising, comfort and low fuel consumption.

Envy you lo..i also want to migrate to Labuan

Hi, actually, this is the consideration for me as well.

I'm doing a pure, logical mathematical/numbers comparison.

And thus, I'm looking at it in terms of 'total cost of ownership, in say 9 years time' As i said, if it can save me a few trips less to the workshop for unexpected repairs, that few trips and the inconvenience from that may just save enough for me to be able to justify forking out more money now.

Both cars are pretty even for me in terms of looks and acceptability (city wins with its interior), just doing some finer number crunching now.

My points at the moment is.

Yes i'm paying 23k more, but if it'll save me a few workshop trips LESS. (Save, ~5k)
Bigger reliable car that I know can last me long time, so I don't need to sell the City E, and get hit with depreciation (Save another 10-20k) Just check 2nd hand car dealers, Altis are rare, if there's one on sale, it'll usually be picked up fast!!

Just wanted to know more from those who have owned an Altis or the new City, to see if my line of thoughts are ok.

Rare but the resale value is remain good, same goes to City. Anyway, what will happen tomorrow, no one know about it. Just test drive both car, choose the right one for yourself.

this dosnt look like a uncle car to me. Stop generalizing altist as a uncle car.

p.s. got this pic from facebook, not mine...

car workshops tell you to go for toyotas merely because they have less electronics as compared to honda and they are easier for "them" to fix... it's all about making money... more electronics means more machinery which these shops cannot afford... so you will need to always go back to the authorize service centre...

car workshop will give you shitty comments on new benz and bmw because they are fully electronic and you need expensive machinery and software to do diagnosis, etc... electronic parts failing at 2 years lar, 10k to replace some circuit board lar... best you go for old benz/bmw, less problem, easy to fix and maintain, yeah right...

1.8 use 4speed auto onli .. if wan buy ALtis dun get the lowest spec la ..

ya for the high spec 2.0 130k plus i htink

Brother, don't provide misleading info.

1.8 comes with S-CVTi..2.0 having paddle shift.

1.8L
60kmh, engine just tick over 1k rpm, it is 1050rpm
70kmh @ 1.2krpm
80kmh @ 1.4krpm
100kmh @ 1.8krpm

You got some points there but again I am not only got the information from the workshop, even from the public folks.

my ratings of cars i like...below RM150k :
1st. Altis 2.0S or 2.0G
2nd. Nissan Sylphy 2.0
3rd. Forte 2.0 SX
4th. Civic 2.0
5th. Chevrolet Cruze

Why Altis?? 1st. I owned a Toyota AE101(old model Corolla)...still regularly service at Toyota SC without fail...maintenance cheap, reliability, Spacious, reliable(new engine...dual vvti - powerful and reliable) ...gearbox 7spd....in malaysia..dun think we nid 7 speed(except in HW)...the only drawback....over kill price...to T&H brands...especially Hondas.
2nd. Sylphy....Heard the new engine came with incredible FC and maintenance is way cheaper....thus parts also not hard 2 find. only drawbacks is 2nd hand value not as good as T&H
3rd. Forte 2.0SX......Full of useful gadgets, high tech, safety features...really love it..spacious, reliable and fun 2 drive...Maintenance not bad for a Korean(cheaper than Hondas) the drawbacks : Parts(well, now ald ok....but not all parts) and 2nd hand value
4th. Civic 2.0....Nice interior....the meter....digitalize...that's the only pros in the car i seen....maintenance..expensive, parts(easy 2 find...but i think also expensive)...NVH SUCKS!!!!!! Worse than any other cars i've listed....
5th. Chev Cruze.....kinda big and spacious....but other than that dunno....might b same pros and cons with Forte coz is American-Korean.

4 speed auto is for 1.6 lar dude... the rest are cvts

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Added on October 12, 2010, 6:57 amwell... some times people tell things from what they heard instead of what they experienced

anyway, japs are good cars

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 12 2010, 06:57 AM

If pure numbers is what you are looking from as well as the total cost of ownership, get the City and use the extra cash as a downpayment for your new home.

Cars will generally depreciate in value over time.

Properties especially nowadays (don't count in the bubble) will generally appreciate. Your RM23k downpayment might even provide with you with 100% returns.

If all you want is a means to get you from point A to point B, get which ever is more economical.

The City as well as the Civic (I own a Civic) has very poor noise insulation. I used to own a Vios as well so the cost of maintenance for both the Vios and Civic are very much similar (if sent to those Authorised Honda/Toyota dealers) except maybe I am paying RM50-RM70 more with the Civic.

Why all jap... no love for Conti? the VW 1.4TSI.

Well he did say below RM150k. The current model available is priced at RM156k without insurance.