I played 11 ladder games today and 8 of them are zvz matchup, what's up yo!

yup lots of z player 2day

all trying to be fruity...
back when fruity jz won gsl, i have zergs trying to carpet bomb me...
too bad i got terran when i random and HSM them all LOL

Lol ....he makes my consideration switching to zerg even stronger : ) ...

Why switch to zerg leh? Protoss not good?

why zerg ? terran not good ?

we love the world in purple.

is not that protoss/terran no good....since past...to me ...hardest race is always the best ......i was brainwashed and told Protoss is hardest while zerg is easiest b4 I play.....GRRRRRR ......with coolness of the shield and expensive of the Protoss unit ....so i choose toss =.="

Zerg map control is the best : ) ....which I like the most ...that all : )

For t3h swarm!

sry but i have no idea why zerg is always said to be the 'hardest' race to play...
tell me how hard is it to play the race as i do play zerg as well and i dun find it as 'hard' as many claimed...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 10 2010, 01:39 AM

well I think that all 3 races are hard, depending on your build order and units...

example...

easy wins - MmM
hard - go hellions vs toss

LOL

blue flame hellion drops are very very popular in high lvl TvP...
blue flame helion drop -> marine banshee raven timing push...
even MMM is nt so easy when u cant position ur unit well or control ur addiction to stim lol...

addiction to stim lol~ no lah i was just giving a simple example... then somemore MmM is more easier to build mah...

the blue flame hellion drop thingy requires alot of micro plus the timing is quite strict imho

i have the stim addiction issue lol...
so much tat i need to rush medics (starport without addon) at times when my army are halfdead...

aw,boxer,july,nada,moon are all playing terran =/. And yeah, boxer is switching over.


This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Oct 10 2010, 02:21 AM

boxer has 2 top50 account LOL...
both in the same league as ranked-1 BoxeR (which is not him LOL)

I believe they brand Zerg as hardest due to its low win:lose ratio among all 3 races.

Ah ...i think zerg hard coz it give me most trouble ^^ ....no. of base -> macroing....microing...defending ..spreading crept tumour....overlord maps positioniong ...all require more skills den other race (TO ME) ...Zerg simply has more thing to do at a time : )

This post has been edited by xShinji: Oct 10 2010, 02:24 AM

shouldn't it be the 'weakest' race instead of hardest then?
though fruity showed us hw good zerg can be when u reach fruitlike lvl >.<

Actually...i dont really think it is weakest race....Fruit Dealer prove to us : )..

If Zerg safely reach mid/late game it shines the best.....

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Added on October 10, 2010, 2:27 amesp after reaper nerf+ gateway nerf.....zerg early game problem is not a big issue anymore ....

This post has been edited by xShinji: Oct 10 2010, 02:27 AM

Well, if you choose the weakest race to play, then yeah, you're going to have a hard time winning, right?

I don't think FruitDealer's triumph in GSL is a good indicator that Zerg has elevated itself out of the weakest / hardest to play race level. A glimpse through the GSL statistics would easily reveal the fact that the semi-final almost became a TTTT metal-fest.

If you compare all 3 races' changes from their BW days, Zerg really suffered a lot. The fact that its units literally crawl when they're not on creep is a giant nerf to its mobility.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Zerg player in both BW & SC2 so inb4 Zerg-fanboi.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Oct 10 2010, 02:33 AM

well if u ask me, toss's early game is the most vulnerable now to zerg with the zealot 5sec nerf (though the recent IEM NY showed some creative play for PvT)...
6pool openings are really pretty good (especially if u knw to micro ur scouting drone to prevent a wall-in) just like hw fruity 6-pooled inca...

btw GSL2 day1: 7 terran 7 toss 2 zerg (idra and phoenix)

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Added on October 10, 2010, 2:43 amps: same thing happened when morrow won IEM cologne and all the terran spamming 5 rax reapers without being able to micro em LOL

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 10 2010, 02:43 AM

Not to say it's weak but maybe just a different style of playing.

Zerg units are meant to be massed only to be effective enough. 1 drone/zergling/roach/hydralisk/mutalisk/corruptor/infestor/ultralisk/broodlord can't do much to affect the game unlike 1 thor/carrier/BC/mothership/collosus(?)

to me zerg's strength is in the mobility...
going head-on with zerg is suicide...
tat's why u see fruity rarely go head-on (unless ultras LOL)...

u need to know when to store ur gas and larvae in ur builds unlike other races as the timing are very tight...

hav u guys seen the match where he uses queens against toss, lost at the end though, when he's just too underpowered with a bunch of collossus

that was an all-in...
he's suppose to win the game b4 the colossus number get high (queen have high range to air and dps as well thus is able to handle 1 or 2 colossus)...
but the toss defended very very well to hold that back...

he's not specially strong among the pros, but i just like how creative fruity is in his matches, it's a pleasure watching him play

see.. actually no such thing as this imba, thats imba. blizzard really made this game very well. (some minor patch fix ofc)

Huk already prove Protoss is strong (in his hand)
Fruit did the same.
and so who's next?

people QQ when they dont want to improve their skill. they relying on Blizzard to nerf it. instead of posting long QQ this imba, nerf this that, train harder. if not enuf, try again and again and again and again.
THERE'S NO LIMIT OF IMPROVEMENT.
there's no such thing as impossible.

well cool in his interview did mention that changes are needed for PvT where terran have the upper hand (his teammate are clide and tester, known to be among the best of their races)...

Q. The 1.2 patch preview is out. The Zerg race will be getting a lot of buffs, I hear?
A. Yes, I was glad to hear that. I'm not sure how the patch will affect gameplay, and I don't want to make any conclusions until it is actually out. Though I don't play Protoss, it was somewhat disappointing to see nothing on improving PvT, where Terrans seem to have an advantage.

no doubt the game is not as balanced as we would like it to be but its nt as imbalanced as all the drama queens make it sound...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=159136

assuming that there IS the next add-ons into the series in the future, how can players start saying that Toss or Zerg or even Terren is OPed or weaker?

imo its the players skills & consistency in strategy, i can give you the so called "BEST" race or whateva, one screw up, ur a goner.

wake up

^

queen too. too, cumbersome for me TBH lol

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Added on October 11, 2010, 10:26 amif you've played/followed the beta, koreans are the sole/main reason that zerg is in its current state lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 11 2010, 10:26 AM

lol in the korean beta, zerg was owning like mad thus the epic nerfs LOL...
still remember the 1food 2armor roaches?

every game was roach spam. kinda boring lol

used to pull my hair off when i see 5 roach coming to my base when i got like 4-5 gateway units

Ok from now on I am going to dress like this

Selling fruits while playing Zerg in Starcraft 2.