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 <<<Singles Club V277>>>, row row row ur boat...

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post Oct 9 2010, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 08:37 PM)
why le?tomolo i'm going also.but not sure wat time yet
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u only go there to see ma

i go there to find job ma...and to be exact i also not sure what job i want...oh my

even u go, i also dont know who r u la...i'm going in the morning tongue.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(sarcast @ Oct 9 2010, 08:40 PM)
da jiu fu is who?
job fair? good luckk yo!  biggrin.gif
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thx ya laugh.gif
oh my, if i accept the job there...then i can say bye bye to my animation field...lol

QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 08:42 PM)
i go there to see got wat opportunity also le..same as u not sure wat job i want
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u have permanent job, i just a fresh grad...

if u cant find a better job, u still have current job

if i cant find a job, i still jobless...

different la
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post Oct 9 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 08:48 PM)
decided to throw manager a resign letter on monday wor..Haha
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wah...new boat not ready straight want to break the current boat now? u know how to swim de la? sweat.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 08:59 PM)
cos there will be froggie prince to save her  rolleyes.gif
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oh yea ho...she is girl... sad.gif be a girl, life is so much easier...can holiday for 3 months somemore...no one rush...
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 09:03 PM)
i think she need money to continue further studies
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i also going to take MBA 2 years later tongue.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(sarcast @ Oct 9 2010, 09:05 PM)
Yea I do.. why?
LoL.. then good luck in ur choice as well, take animation as ur part time SKILL/interest tongue.gif
wa meh, sound more like calling a relative like "Kao Fu'~ lol
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hopefully i will have a happy job life tongue.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 09:10 PM)
u study management 1 meh?
lol..drop the formality..xD
happy job life? many OLs?
easy job ? high pay?
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nope, took IT (regret this)...want to change...better prospect laugh.gif

happy job life = job no problem, colleagues no problem, have friends, financial no problem...

OLs dont care, got gf or not dont care... laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 09:20 PM)
mba no need accounting prerequisite 1 ?
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nope, went to ask for info alre...any degree can apply for it laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:24 PM)
dont waste yr time do MBA. you are just wasting money & time.
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pls refer ur point to the current companies out there...

mba is a required ticket to climb higher, like it or not
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:34 PM)
well, you want better pay...better ranking start a business la..simple.
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ntg biggie..but if u want to be a typical Office worker who got MBA..just to be proud about one freaking paper..better go out n see how the world works n read more. MBA is not the only way.

MBA dont make you entrepreneur enuf thus they teach old stuf. More less that they dont bring new stuff out to speed up management but more of be the bottle neck of most companies.
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yea, start ur own business is the best way to get better pay...wells, it's have to depends on skill and gamble luck

anyway, i need a MBA to switch from the mistake i made now for taking IT, i kena from accenture one line "U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUSINESS COZ U FROM IT" u see, world still look at ur paper
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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:38 PM)
wat war?? unsure.gif
hahaha..... whoever told u working life is good?? laugh.gif
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some enjoy, some dont...similar to uni life...some enjoy, some dont

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post Oct 9 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:40 PM)
onli ppl with money or can save enough can own a business sweat.gif
my brother actually switch from E&E to business without the so call paper whistling.gif
i feel tat it actually depend heavily on how u answer their question whistling.gif
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i prefer to work for company now...ur bro is lucky, while i asked everywhere...my IT cert certainly will not let me go sweat.gif

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post Oct 9 2010, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:42 PM)
oh....better dont then laugh.gif
it actually depend on what kind of criteria u set when u look for job. Do u look for something u enjoy doing or just for the money?? whistling.gif
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i looking for something to hold off family pressure now, if i'm to pursue my own dream job, i have take time to learn, and move out of this country
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:44 PM)
The degree is just over-rated.

I agree it is important, even if your company sees it one time and you got hired , then some point in the future some of the companies wanted to see it again when you're
being engaged to a project in a tender proposal.

But nevertheless, it is still your experience that counts. People just want to see RESULTS, that's all, they don't care how you do it. (translated directly from Cantonese - Fast, Nice, Perfect!)
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btw, all means pls tell big companies such as accenture out there, experience pawns papers

QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:45 PM)
IT is not dead wood totally. Why dont u ask accounting? laugh.gif  isnt tat more dead wood than being accountant..see figures n dun know anything..

Why didnt u take some well, business subjects in while in Uni?
Most field now looking for common ground..rather specialized niche of ppls..

Business > is skills but not just luck also> its how well you can make yr company up in important stuffs.
You can hear certain small companies, only +less than 10 starts ...n they r like powerful enuf to do big stufss..

the corps world alrdy collapsed. its not feasible goin to nuked ground..
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IT is more about programming or fixing hardware...according to what i saw for the companies position at the MCTF
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:47 PM)
then how u answer them back?? laugh.gif
do u go read on some of the management book?? smile.gif
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i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development"

management book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ?


Added on October 9, 2010, 9:54 pm
QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM)
IT makes tons of money. If you know how to pull off some tricks off your sleeve. The reality is, people are really desperate for programmers and technical people. I mean it's the world we are living in now.

We are getting so impatient. System is down for just 1 hour, and that is severe enough for people to cry and make noise enough to screw you up. More IT people is needed to support the ever demanding needs.

Someone who told me that doing IT is going to end up selling pirated DVDs in the night market 10 years ago. Today. Look who's talking!

Argh.. I hate myself when I get it started again.
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programmers with a salary of 2500 starting basic and raise to the top of the dept with 4000++?

unless u work for urself and start ur own company, else programmers will always be the one below the management group

QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:50 PM)
Tomorrow!! when the war began!  tongue.gif

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dude, read up more... IT field now I see has good future but u need to like retool yrself with better languages tat improves productivity.
hahaha~~ yup results. sweat.gif n u got to know how your inception of whole thing.
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yea, lots of positions out there

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post Oct 9 2010, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:54 PM)
doing typical IT jobs seems like a dead end job

But if you're clever enough to discover common IT problems that most companies face today, and find a unique solution to solve these problems efficiently, you can come up with your own product
and start making money. It's just how you look at IT from another point of view.

From my experience, I know problems exist. People just don't bother to solve it. It's just the nature of the industry.
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if u have a great sense of idea, market needs, budget, and network...yea u can be rich by making programs and sell them
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM)
it depends how you look into it

Some progammers can end up in the management group being project managers, system analysts, implementers, etc. But, bear in mind, as you go higher, the less likely you'll be in the technical team, and lesser technical work. Some find it boring, some find it OK. Depends. Some doesn't want to continue climbing the corporate ladder just for the sake of liking to do what they loves most.
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yea, i know lots of other field ppl also same, from technical move to less technical, more about manage the operation

QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM)
just feel don like lo..all depend on us..
i dono how to swim..but parent will teach gua.. tongue.gif
i hope i will get it too..haha
i wan holiday 3years can r??
ya,,main reason for me to work now..
u been there today??
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no la, grab a rich guy, he will buy a cruise for u

holiday 3 years, can de...got ppl sara u then can lo

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:58 PM)
that's what i'm aiming when I reach my prime, around 30 years old, I think?


Added on October 9, 2010, 9:59 pm

yeah.. quite the typical companies, TM, Genting, Honda, Mesiniaga, HSBC, Public Bank, Prudential, KFC, etc
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not really age problem...it is more about the time the idea bang into ur head...be it 16, 20, or 60 years old


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post Oct 9 2010, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 10:02 PM)
hav u try to go for management trainee job??...
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nope, coz i'm from IT, so IT go to IT company and do IT stuff...

management can be learnt, i doubt those graduated from management can und the company's operation first hand
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:05 PM)
Yeah.. If Mark Zuckerberg can create The Facebook in Harvard and change the way millions of people communicate today, why can't I?

Or maybe it just ain't gonna happen in Malaysia. Period.
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maybe u be the first creating something else which hasnt exist
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 10:06 PM)
It doesnt matter HOW much you start paid with, ITS how good You are at your JOB!
Yes, typical r obsolete already. Everyone can do it.
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You are still in IT 1.0... ppl already moving into cloud computing. & you are still in IT 1.0?
Ideas> dont bang into your head. Its you to look at problems & solve it. Ideas dont look for you!.
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yea, lots of thing i dont know about programming

idea does bang into my head, sometimes programming problem cant be solve, suddenly a thought bang in when i was sleeping, jump up, straight to solve question

another case, is for my 3d modeling, idea just flashes in my head when i was focusing on something else

QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 10:07 PM)
my fren who is doing SAP now... just worked for like 4 yrs already earning 6k nod.gif
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SAP is hot currently nod.gif

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