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KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 10:38 PM)
wat war?? unsure.gif

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Tomorrow!! when the war began! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:44 PM)
i prefer to work for company now...ur bro is lucky, while i asked everywhere...my IT cert certainly will not let me go sweat.gif
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dude, read up more... IT field now I see has good future but u need to like retool yrself with better languages tat improves productivity.


QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:44 PM)
The degree is just over-rated.

I agree it is important, even if your company sees it one time and you got hired , then some point in the future some of the companies wanted to see it again when you're
being engaged to a project in a tender proposal.

But nevertheless, it is still your experience that counts. People just want to see RESULTS, that's all, they don't care how you do it. (translated directly from Cantonese - Fast, Nice, Perfect!)
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hahaha~~ yup results. sweat.gif n u got to know how your inception of whole thing.
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:46 PM)
i looking for something to hold off family pressure now, if i'm to pursue my own dream job, i have take time to learn, and move out of this country
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Time always there to learn, its you not picking up laugh.gif
Moving out is not a great things..socialized more, network more sort of stuffs tat get u somewhere! dun be freaking nerd in SC here, no use...cos ppl here come n go n graduated while u stay n figuring what to do.

What you need to do is read more, if you want to waste time again for MBA, then its your call.
I rather go with SAP which specialized n pay better money then MBA who a chinamen will say im just another office troopers.


QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 10:47 PM)
then how u answer them back?? laugh.gif
do u go read on some of the management book?? smile.gif
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1. I`ll do read.. management books.. heaps of them
2. Best book is sun tzu art of war
3. watch the apprentice tv shows..tat give u inside well abt donald trump type of management & why some dont need MBAs..

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:48 PM)
btw, all means pls tell big companies such as accenture out there, experience pawns papers
IT is more about programming or fixing hardware...according to what i saw for the companies position at the MCTF
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Haha, you are just looking at tip of an ice berg..
Accenture is more than tat

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:48 PM)
IT makes tons of money. If you know how to pull off some tricks off your sleeve. The reality is, people are really desperate for programmers and technical people. I mean it's the world we are living in now.

We are getting so impatient. System is down for just 1 hour, and that is severe enough for people to cry and make noise enough to screw you up. More IT people is needed to support the ever demanding needs.

Someone who told me that doing IT is going to end up selling pirated DVDs in the night market 10 years ago. Today. Look who's talking!

Argh.. I hate myself when I get it started again.
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Infact, ppl in Msia r really short minded ..most in general.
always speculate without knowing the ending outcome.

I respect IT ppl, they r the one who make us cut less trees n speed the productivity phase.

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:51 PM)
someone who said like that, he's just being dead arrogant. shakehead.gif
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Agree n stupid.

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:51 PM)
i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development"

management book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ?
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Yeh, tat book is good. Whats wrong? unsure.gif
KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:51 PM)
i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development"

management book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ?

Added on October 9, 2010, 9:54 pm

programmers with a salary of 2500 starting basic and raise to the top of the dept with 4000++?

unless u work for urself and start ur own company, else programmers will always be the one below the management group
yea, lots of positions out there
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It doesnt matter HOW much you start paid with, ITS how good You are at your JOB!

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:54 PM)
doing typical IT jobs seems like a dead end job

But if you're clever enough to discover common IT problems that most companies face today, and find a unique solution to solve these problems efficiently, you can come up with your own product
and start making money. It's just how you look at IT from another point of view.

From my experience, I know problems exist. People just don't bother to solve it. It's just the nature of the industry.
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Yes, typical r obsolete already. Everyone can do it.

QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 10:55 PM)
hi all tongue.gif
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hi there.. * singing do you know..*

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:56 PM)
if u have a great sense of idea, market needs, budget, and network...yea u can be rich by making programs and sell them
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You are still in IT 1.0... ppl already moving into cloud computing. & you are still in IT 1.0?

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:57 PM)
it depends how you look into it

Some progammers can end up in the management group being project managers, system analysts, implementers, etc. But, bear in mind, as you go higher, the less likely you'll be in the technical team, and lesser technical work. Some find it boring, some find it OK. Depends. Some doesn't want to continue climbing the corporate ladder just for the sake of liking to do what they loves most.
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:02 PM)
not really age problem...it is more about the time the idea bang into ur head...be it 16, 20, or 60 years old
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Ideas> dont bang into your head. Its you to look at problems & solve it. Ideas dont look for you!.
KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:03 PM)
Typical Malaysian (No offense - There are great Malaysians that I respect and love) usually will discourage you from great ideas, rather than motivate you to achieve.
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I dont, i`ll listen usually & ask them the idea how they will work it out. whistling.gif
(period) I shudnt say my work here laugh.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:05 PM)
nope, coz i'm from IT, so IT go to IT company and do IT stuff...

management can be learnt, i doubt those graduated from management can und the company's operation first hand
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You are just like katak bawah tempurung lah laugh.gif no offense icon_rolleyes.gif

1. if you dont have club skills, or active social lifestyle then yea..companies will less want to hire you.
2. this days, they dun like antisocial behaviour
3. management build of lifetime skills abt life..its nt jst abt work, its abt companies, relations etc.


QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:05 PM)
Yeah.. If Mark Zuckerberg can create The Facebook in Harvard and change the way millions of people communicate today, why can't I?

Or maybe it just ain't gonna happen in Malaysia. Period.
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Not just that, who was tat USB fella in Msia who fled to Taiwan n become pioneer of USB?

QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:05 PM)
genting in sg good ler...can go and apply
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laugh.gif n got rob by daylight robbery?
casino = daylight legal robber.

QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 11:07 PM)
my fren who is doing SAP now... just worked for like 4 yrs already earning 6k nod.gif
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couldnt agree more. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:07 PM)
maybe u be the first creating something else which hasnt exist
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Why u keep talking no action? failed lah!

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KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:08 PM)
i dont know sing lor...
i listen...do you know....
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laugh.gif cute lah u tongue.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:11 PM)
yea, lots of thing i dont know about programming

idea does bang into my head, sometimes programming problem cant be solve, suddenly a thought bang in when i was sleeping, jump up, straight to solve question

another case, is for my 3d modeling, idea just flashes in my head when i was focusing on something else
SAP is hot currently  nod.gif
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If SAP hot, why you want to waste time do MBA? laugh.gif infact in SAP also you learn management.

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:13 PM)
hahaha... programming is not like finding inspiration for your next big ad campaign. Customer just want you to solve the problem immediately. No time for idea to bang your head.

The speed of solving the issue quickly depends on many factors - skill, experience, etc
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haha ideas laugh.gif

KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:11 PM)
yea, lots of thing i dont know about programming

idea does bang into my head, sometimes programming problem cant be solve, suddenly a thought bang in when i was sleeping, jump up, straight to solve question

another case, is for my 3d modeling, idea just flashes in my head when i was focusing on something else
SAP is hot currently  nod.gif
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I can tell you few problems with 3Ds.
Do you know 3Dsmax by Autodesk doesnt communicated well with other software like Cinema 4D?
n Most especially in Build environment need this..to happen..so to keep our work phase faster...

so this idea.. go figure..I hate spoon feed ppl but no solution for me. vmad.gif

QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:15 PM)
lol...self control la...not always gamble lor
sg earn more lor
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SG...how abt if its POUND< USD OR AUD? whistling.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:16 PM)
tomorrow go there get info
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tell this yrself n take action, dont tell us.
KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:18 PM)
lol...thank u tongue.gif
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:20 PM)
yawn.gif

I think I wanna sleep now.
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bonne nuit! smile.gif


QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:20 PM)
i not sure about u, but normally i face some error or algorithm problem...i need to have idea, so i prefer to go to sleep, because i normally get the idea for how to solve the programming problem
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then you need to learn more algorithms n fix it..rather tell us. rclxub.gif

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post Oct 9 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:24 PM)
sg nearer to here...can go home anytime once a week / once a mth...
more asian too
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lol, more tactical wise daylight robber?

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:25 PM)
lol, just want to finish the task
management trainee is more like try out every dept and the company will decide which is best for u?
i thought this is a place to discuss
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laugh.gif wrong section & thread ! tats Technical suppork & Programming Codes etc.. laugh.gif

KVReninem
post Oct 9 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:29 PM)
i just share my experience of how i solve my algo and programming work in uni la...not technical stuff
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uni is a training ground, work is your battlefield.

QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:30 PM)
really ar..then i dont know lo
haha
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:33 PM)
work is a whole new stage, uni is more like nursery
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geez ..why repeat my shits laugh.gif Its either you dont understand english or you jst want to be in nursery.

QUOTE(sarcast @ Oct 9 2010, 11:33 PM)
bang bannng boomm
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 11:36 PM)
good nite every1
tata...smile.gif
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bonne nuit in style ! wub.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:37 PM)
haiz, nothing la sleep.gif
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chill! laugh.gif

Added on October 9, 2010, 10:51 pmhmmm i think everyone in G6...


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post Oct 9 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(sarcast @ Oct 10 2010, 12:09 AM)
yea why? XD
\PEwww Baam
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mana ayam modell? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Yaozz @ Oct 10 2010, 12:10 AM)
Who went? sad.gif
Baam? unsure.gif
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oi enuf those pew pew la..
ppl edi COD & BF2... now im on SC2.. laugh.gif whacked much in us server laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2010, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 10 2010, 12:49 AM)
Today's sky very colorful.  wub.gif

user posted image
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post Oct 10 2010, 09:20 AM

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woke up ! bonjour!
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post Oct 10 2010, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Oct 10 2010, 10:26 AM)
sad~ <3
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why sad sad? need sek sek mah?

QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Oct 10 2010, 10:31 AM)
cuz sad sun morning lor~  <3
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LOL laugh.gif
KVReninem
post Oct 10 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Oct 10 2010, 11:20 AM)
come genting wit me lor~
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for? suicide?

QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 10 2010, 11:20 AM)
which one u like the most?? hmm.gif
ya lo.. sad.gif
hi
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Hi!

QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 10 2010, 11:26 AM)
u gt so gd bo???
but i dono wat time im going le..
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dun later he ffk.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 10 2010, 11:28 AM)
yawn.gif
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murning *whack face*

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 10 2010, 11:28 AM)
working alone lagi sad.
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need help help or motivation? wub.gif
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post Oct 10 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 10 2010, 11:39 AM)
see how first la
that is consider 3 words lo
he is sincere de la..
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but but.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(Rascal Stitch @ Oct 10 2010, 11:40 AM)
go there eat n sleep +relaxing~  blush.gif  blush.gif
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LOl..
i prefer marina sands tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2010, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 10 2010, 12:31 PM)
now my body aching over after going to MV... sleep.gif
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must be super enjoice.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 10 2010, 12:33 PM)
i just want my bed... wuwuwuwuwuwuwu... It's supposed to be sleeping time for me now... T_____________________T

Added on October 10, 2010, 11:34 ambtw, I just realized that LYN is the official forum for MCTF at Midvalley. LOLz
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whats MCTF? unsure.gif
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post Oct 10 2010, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 10 2010, 12:42 PM)
No. Getting packed in Komuter.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 10 2010, 12:45 PM)
even army need to recruit in MCTF  sweat.gif

Added on October 10, 2010, 11:46 amThe MCTF bear is big, naise doorgift wub.gif
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got pictar? unsure.gif
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post Oct 10 2010, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 10 2010, 12:47 PM)
user posted image
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nice..~ laugh.gif

QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 10 2010, 01:18 PM)
user posted image
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so kiut! wub.gif
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