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 Negotiation break down between blizzard and korea, Blizzard is screwed

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TSLaguna
post Oct 7 2010, 05:43 PM, updated 16y ago

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Note: This is a translation of a blog entry.


Someone posted a snippet of a blog post on PGR21.com, of a guy who posted a first person account of a meeting between Mike Morhaime and the Department of Culture's vice Minister. Due to its sensitive nature, the blog post was quickly deleted by the writer. However, small portions were recoverable by using search engines, and me being a curious little bugger google searched everyline and used the preview to recover the entire post 8)

Gives you a little bit of an idea of what's truly going on, huh
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Rough Translation:

"The Government Shouldn't be shaken by Blizzard" -

Last Month, Blizzard's President Mike Morhaime met with the Vice Minister of Korean Department of Culture. The related articles were published saying "A Warm, Accepting Atmosphere", "Promise to continue negotiating", "Progress Seen", but reality was a little, no, a lot different.

As soon as they met, Mike Morhaime started "protesting", exclaiming "Korea isn't following international rules, huh!" "What are you gonna do about people not respecting intellectual property rights!!!". The Vice Minister of course responded angrily, saying "Who do you think you are to say these things to the Minister? You're just a president of an ordinary corporation!!!" [T/N: lines are said in a much angrier tone on statements from both MM and Minister]. orz....

So the people around recovered the demolished atmosphere and disbanded after agreeing to talk about next time, but the dominating viewpoint that Blizzard has already given up any hopes of being able to negotiate with Korea. KeSPA has offered money to settle rather late (3~500 million won), but Blizzard didn't even flinch, and yesterday there was people talking about "GSL may be going overseas...".

Personally I think they have no reason to stay when it's now certain that they're looked upon scornfully especially when they have to fight against the Government, but after looking at the statement said by the opposing party, I was reminded of when Blizzard vented "You guys are going too far just because we're a foreign company" orz... I'm reminded of the materials released yesterday about how China is buying a lot of Korean companies and how China's gaming industry is invading Korea, and as always, I think the comedy is continuing.

About President MM... It's something he won't hear even if he meets Obama, so because he just had a very unique experience he will never have again, he should be satisfied with that? (huh?)



Apparently the Government's stance is that while the game isn't communal property, it's hard to see it as a completely private property, according to this guy's follow up posts.
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post Oct 7 2010, 05:58 PM

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so being government means you can ignore intellectual property and its right. ok korea.
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post Oct 7 2010, 06:27 PM

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US shudn't save their butt in the korean war. let them all be communists. even without kespa or wat goddamm league, starcraft will always be popular.
IT IS NOT POPULAR COZ KOREA LIKED IT. HELL NO.
IT IS POPULAR COZ IT ROCKS. LIKE DIABLO AND WARCRAFT.
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post Oct 7 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Oct 7 2010, 06:27 PM)
US shudn't save their butt in the korean war. let them all be communists. even without kespa or wat goddamm league, starcraft will always be popular.
IT IS NOT POPULAR COZ KOREA  LIKED IT. HELL NO.
IT IS POPULAR COZ IT ROCKS. LIKE DIABLO AND WARCRAFT.
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post Oct 7 2010, 10:55 PM

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Where in that snippet of yours say that Blizzard is screwed?
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post Oct 8 2010, 12:01 AM

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i dunno what is going on
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post Oct 8 2010, 09:54 AM

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I know Kespa is screwed
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post Oct 8 2010, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 8 2010, 09:54 AM)
I know Kespa is screwed
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post Oct 8 2010, 10:26 AM

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is there a blogspot where i can read more of this? I am big fan of blizzard and would love to follow up on this already epic 1v1
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Laguna @ Oct 7 2010, 05:43 PM)
Note: This is a translation of a blog entry.
Someone posted a snippet of a blog post on PGR21.com, of a guy who posted a first person account of a meeting between Mike Morhaime and the Department of Culture's vice Minister. Due to its sensitive nature, the blog post was quickly deleted by the writer. However, small portions were recoverable by using search engines, and me being a curious little bugger google searched everyline and used the preview to recover the entire post
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And pray tell where is the source of this? Cause I cant tell where your conjunction and speculation starts or stops. That said "someone" is almost as good as how those urban legend stories start, "I heard from a friend of a friend ..."

Not to mention the fact that when I tried to visit the site to verify your claims and I get this:

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Supply a credible source or GTFO.
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:24 AM

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i would give a cookie for this, however im outta cookies atm and ive fallen sick in office recoverying. but yeah, lold
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post Oct 8 2010, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Auricom @ Oct 8 2010, 11:16 AM)
And pray tell where is the source of this? Cause I cant tell where your conjunction and speculation starts or stops. That said "someone" is almost as good as how those urban legend stories start, "I heard from a friend of a friend ..."  

Not to mention the fact that when I tried to visit the site to verify your claims and I get this:

user posted image

Supply a credible source or GTFO.
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Please do some research before bashing the source, PGR21.com has been proven many many times to be a reliable source and several important webpages related to sc have been flagged as dangerous such as scforall.com (artosis's webpage) and fomos (recently fixed).
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Bad news for Korea:
http://www.clubcity.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=64339

In addition to Michael Morhaime, in attendance were: Members of USA FTA agency, as well as US embassy.

Even Michael Morhaime had to write a 3 page long letter which oddly says absolutely nothing to the korean community to "please" them back.
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This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Oct 8 2010, 02:06 PM
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post Oct 8 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Oct 8 2010, 01:50 PM)
Please do some research before bashing the source, PGR21.com has been proven many many times to be a reliable source and several important webpages related to sc have been flagged as dangerous such as scforall.com (artosis's webpage) and fomos (recently fixed).

Even Michael Morhaime had to write a 3 page long letter which oddly says absolutely nothing to the korean community to "please" them back.
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tldr:

-battlenet
-gsl/gomtv
-negotiations (kespa)

hardly "absolutely nothing"
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post Oct 8 2010, 02:35 PM

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Korea is the only region where World of Warcraft players can play StarCraft II for free!



Free? shocking.gif

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post Oct 8 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Oct 8 2010, 02:35 PM)
Free? shocking.gif
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yup you heard that right .
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post Oct 8 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Oct 8 2010, 02:35 PM)
Free? shocking.gif
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only if they play WoW, and korea does have a pretty good WoW playerbase, ANNNNNDDDD they also dominate the WoW tournaments. (well not entirely/all the time, but when they do, its HELLA flashy XD)
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post Oct 8 2010, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Oct 8 2010, 02:35 PM)
Free? shocking.gif
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if u pay wow subs, u get to sc2 for free...
if this is true here, i would have continued my wow subs (though cata is calling me back cry.gif )
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post Oct 9 2010, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Oct 8 2010, 01:50 PM)
Please do some research before bashing the source, PGR21.com has been proven many many times to be a reliable source and several important webpages related to sc have been flagged as dangerous such as scforall.com (artosis's webpage) and fomos (recently fixed).

Even Michael Morhaime had to write a 3 page long letter which oddly says absolutely nothing to the korean community to "please" them back.
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And where in my previous post, am I bashing "the source" ?

I attempted to go to the said website "source" that the TS provided to "research" more. If Google is reporting that the said site has been flagged as a "Reported Attack Page!", I am more inclined to believe Google than anything else.

The original TS gave no source whatsoever and like I said, what ever that was copied and pasted, I couldnt tell if any of the text the TS provided was hearsay, speculation or for that matter what was his commentary, if any. Also, if anything, everything was in Korean and a machine translation is always still spotty at best.

With an opening statement of "Someone posted a snippet of a blog post", I might as well do some namedropping and make statements like "I heard from my contacts inside ICM/WCG and KeSPA that shit has hit the fan and Blizzard is gonna GTFO of Korea and concentrate on making World Of Starcraft instead"

Troll better next time okay ?
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post Oct 9 2010, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Auricom @ Oct 9 2010, 04:08 AM)
And where in my previous post, am I bashing "the source" ?

I attempted to go to the said website "source" that the TS provided to "research" more. If Google is reporting that the said site has been flagged as a "Reported Attack Page!", I am more inclined to believe Google than anything else.

The original TS gave no source whatsoever and like I said, what ever that was copied and pasted, I couldnt tell if any of the text the TS provided was hearsay, speculation or for that matter what was his commentary, if any. Also, if anything, everything was in Korean and a machine translation is always still spotty at best.

With an opening statement of "Someone posted a snippet of a blog post", I might as well do some namedropping and make statements like "I heard from my contacts inside ICM/WCG and KeSPA that shit has hit the fan and Blizzard is gonna GTFO of Korea and concentrate on making World Of Starcraft instead"

Troll better next time okay ?
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The article was taken from teamliquid and the writer was at the scene went that happened.
Even Jaedong has a say in this.

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The hard work of many people went into the establishment of Starcraft as a primary element of Korean eSports, but Blizzard refuses to acknowledge this, and Jaedong considered that very regrettable. When the negotiations ground to a halt, many progamers felt uneasy. Regarding this, Jaedong said: "This particular negotiation, to us progamers, is incredibly important."

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This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Oct 9 2010, 02:50 PM
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post Oct 10 2010, 10:31 PM

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Gee, all these makes me happy to be a casual player, popcorn anyone?

 

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