yep.. practical is lacking here in malaysia... very lacking.. all an engineer student does is, open bunch effin thick physics book and study, or doesnt open at all.. just study what lecturer said and pass exam.. when comes to the real thing, they know no shit.. but its a sad thing that to work as an engineer, need to go through useless years of study..

design engineers. thats one of the main diff. a good scenario. my uncle say he has 13 master engineers under him. 1 chinese very good in theory, design nuclear plant so perfect but its not practical at all because that fking dude nvr thought of budget, market, safety, practical onot. unlike those german engineers can provide the best designs because they were grown up in such environment. butthurt.

about pay. in switzerland, a cashier or toilet lady earn rm12k per month, could hardly survive in zurich. a master freshman in engineering can earn.......rm18k per month, couldnt even afford a family in decent living.

the diff is only 6k, which is peanut. so dun complain.

World War II.

Germans had the best engineers.

Weapons, armor, V2 rockets etc.

im too young to be an engineer yet. but i could choose engineering as major in ETH...but my family background is very engineering heavy so i know what im talking.

Your background happens to only be comprised of sucking many penises for 10 ringgit a go.

I don't mind critique, but for some 2 bit kid who hasn't even earned his degree to tell me this and that is just one of those things that makes me raise an eyebrow.

A professional engineer in Germany is of higher academic standard, in addition to a 4 year degree, they require another 2 years, equivalent to an MEng to become an "Engineer" by trade, thus to say that their concentrate on other fields isn't correct as well. They just have high standards for the title.

The problem also sometimes isn't of mentality, it's purely a catch 22 issue. How can you get experience if you don't get a job, and you can't get a job if you don't have experience.

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actually the one famous for engineering course is ETH aka Institute of Technology of Zurich. ranked first place in Europe same as Polytechnic of Paris. not Universitat Zurich...

i have no mean to look down at malaysian engineers. dun butt hurt. i had controlled a lot in my later comments.
and yes, just google out how many german speakings physicians had won the noble prize.

Malaysia not win anything for Nobel Prize yet..
our education system Sekolah Kebangsaan, Sekolah Jenis Cina, Sekolah Jenis Tamil didn't produce any Nobel prize winner yet..

in south east asia only vietnam had won the Nobel Prize.. but that one is for peace not for engineering or science technology. 

to be honest......i had moved to zurich and will settle down there probably for the next 20 years. BUT, one thing for sure, i will retire in Malaysia, or come back during my 40s to start small business because i love malaysia as a place to live. i can earn die those ang mo money but i want to live in KL, shopping in one utama, makan roti canai, makan laksa.....and troll in lowyat kopitiam.

i'm engineer..
nowadays focus on my part time degree to change the job and after several year i will mind in my own business.
equal to give up in engineering area.

why?
it is not because i'm not capable doing any technical stuff. My job scope basically focus on office (design and consultant), site (hands-on machining) but it is about peanut salary.

nowadays many industry try to cut cost because of the total of graduate increasing each year. so pay cheap to gain more profit.

Either way. Higher than yours lol. What have you achieved so far....hmm going overseas and living with mama and papa?

Oso i don't have bad taste in shitty headphone amps hahahhaha. Kids.

But on a more sombre and honest note, people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.