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starz92
post Sep 8 2013, 09:29 AM

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Need some financial advice here.
Fresh grads here.
Net salary after deduction of EPF & sosco RM 2.2k
Minus Monthly Expenses :
Food : RM160
Petrol (motor) : RM50
Support brother education : RM500
Utilities : RM250
Emergency reserve : RM300
Entertainment : RM50
Balance : RM890

I am buying a low cost house costing RM72k. The loan for 20 years tenure requires monthly repayment of roughly RM 500. Should I repay the additional RM390 I left from my monthly income into the housing loan since the interest rate charged by the loan are higher than most of the low risk investment available?

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post Sep 8 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 8 2013, 01:49 PM)
You're young, why limit yourself to "low risk investments"? You CAN afford to take some risk, TIME is your most valuable asset. You can consider to invest in some mid-risk unit trust funds, since u already building an emergency reserve of RM300 a month.

As a rule of thumb, make sure to have an emergency reserve of at least 3 months of your net income.  Once that is achieved, INVEST, don't let your excess cash sit in bank earning zero/meagre interest.

Btw, where are u storing your emergency reserve?  1-month fixed deposit(s)?
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I am planning to transfer into fixed deposit once it reached RM1k (i.e every 3 months).
Any example of mid-risk unit trust? In Malaysia, is most unit trust from bank? Assuming my house loan interest rate is at 6.5% and it's a flexi loan, I have to choose investment that gives above 6.5% interest in order to divert the extra money (RM390) from bank loan to the unit trust or etc right.
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post Sep 8 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 8 2013, 01:30 PM)
hmm.gif under normal condition, it is best to pay off loan as soon as possible....but I would suggest that you keep the RM 390 saved and reinvested.. this is built up your "CASH" reserved" for a few years just in case something unexpected popped up later.....(ex...motor got stolen, brother needed a bike later to start work, replace a new TV, family member hospitalized, etc...)
because most "investment" vehicles expects investor to stay invested for "at least a few years" to enable reasonable ROI.
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Does this means that even if I reinvest the RM390 into an investment vehicle which gives ROI less then the loan interest rate, it's still reasonable provided that the cash is liquid enough when I need them?

Won't my emergency fund (Which I plan to cap it at 5 times of my current salary) be enough for that?
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post Sep 8 2013, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 8 2013, 05:22 PM)
Oh u just started out...it's very good that u started to have financial consciousness at such young age. thumbup.gif

Yes, it'd be a good idea; every few months u go place a RM1K FD. Don't put long-term, 2-month tenure (for 1-month tenure, min. amount is RM5K) would do since it's just an emergency reserve, u wouldn't want to place a 12-months FD and then having to withdraw it at 11th month and lose 1/2 of the contracted rate.

Focus on building sufficient emergency reserve first, then only think about investments.

Over long term (10 years and above), a well-managed fund can quite safely outperform your housing loan interest rate. As I've said, u have time on your side, you're young, u can withstand the temporary shocks that the market might present you.

If you don't wanna worry too much/spend too much time learning and monitoring, I'd suggest that you pick 1 good "balanced" fund and just do monthly Dollar Cost Average on it (e.g. invest RM200 into it no matter what happens), over time u should see the fruits. icon_rolleyes.gif

U can learn about unit trusts from Public Mutual thread, Fund Investment Corner and Fundsupermart.com threads here. wink.gif
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In this case, in order to build up my emergency fund quicker, would it be wise for me to allocate the extra money into my emergency fund until it reach a specified target (lets say RM10k) before I invest it into unit trust? Or should I just slowly build up the emergency fund by RM300 per month and invest the remaining unit trust?
Thanks for the advice, I will learn more bout unit trust from the site you suggested smile.gif
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post Sep 8 2013, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 8 2013, 05:40 PM)
Allocate all your excess cash into building up the reserve first, don't invest anything for now.

Wow...u want 5 times of your salary...net or gross? hmm.gif

There are many schools of though on this...I personally prefer to use "x number of months' cash requirement" method, e.g. I know with fair certainty that I need RM2K a month, and I want to have 6 months of reserve, so my reserve would be RM2K x 6 = RM12K

Maybe u just started working, u don't have past records to aid u in determining your average monthly cash needs, perhaps it'd be better that u use the "net salary" basis. wink.gif

I think 3-6 months would be ok, IF your job has reasonable security. For ppl whose job is not that secure and/or got dependents and/or heavy commitments, they might have up to 24 months of reserve. sweat.gif
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haha, net salary of 2.2k x 5 should be reasonable. That would also be almost equivalent to my cash requirement for 7 months.
(Budgeted requirement per month for now would be around Rm 1.5k. )
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post Sep 9 2013, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(calebc @ Sep 9 2013, 12:56 PM)
Starz92,

Like someone in the thread says, it's a good thing that you've come into "financial consciousness" at such a young age.

in my opinion, it would really depend on the reason you are investing into a low cost apartment. Is it for own stay or investment?

If it's for investment, I'd say don't go for such property at all. Put all 300 + your extra 890 into building your emergency cash first since your target is quite high, i.e. 6 months your basic salary. I suggest you put this into a track proven mid-risk unit trust fund but never into an insurance endowment plan due to the lack of liquidity.

In probably less than a year, you'll achieve your target then you start looking for a property for investment. The advise is go for new properties with DIBS and downpayment rebates.

if the apartment you're planning to buy is a must, due to working location or etc. Why not start with renting a room so that you could save more to achieve your target emergency cash...
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the apartment is a must since my family have been renting house for 3 years. My current rental payment is RM460, so I might as well buy the low cost apartment.
I would take around 10 months to build up my emergency cash reserve. (at my current rate of 1k per month) I will take this time to do more research on unit trust. By reading the basics, I just know about what are mutual funds and how does it works. I am still unsure bout which type of fund are classified as low, medium or high risk. There are also different type of funds that invest in different assets which I am still unsure of the implication.

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