QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 26 2012, 11:49 AM)
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May i take a stab at this?
Hm.. let's go by the numbers first shall we (based on attached ZIPped Excel file which U can play with to see "what if"):
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Please keep in mind, i'm taking your "higher" expense variables and "lower" net income just to be prudent
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1. Spending on "Feel Good" is about 16.55% of your net, which IMHO, is a wee bit too high
2. NOW you're doing well with 41.59% savings & investment
3. WITH HOME your savings & investment will drop to $964 or 14.84% of net income - impact, please see 2nd part of opinion/feedback
4. WITH HOME your net income % allocated to monthly loan repayment + fixing + cukai pintu/tanah is about 26.75%, which is slightly high for comfortable level
5. However, since your partner & U are just starting out and can see increments coming in by the dollops, should not be a prob if U decide to buy a $300K home
1. Ya i know that.. Was thinking that im still not married and not much commitments yet, so this is the only time i can afford to spend..

but once all the commitment comes in, it will be reduced... heck i dont even have a credit card yet... i still prefer to spend what i have... a home loan totally change that...
2. Its more on savings rather than investment... i havent even saved enough for the emergency funds of 6 months salary yet...
3. I cant find the "2nd part of opinion/feedback" you mentioned
4. I guess this cant be helped due to the crazy property price nowadays... 10 years back i wouldnt imagine i would buy a house >200k...
5. Hopefully... if Msia economy doesnt crash...
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Savings & Investments extrapolated to 01/01/2025 based on 7%pa growth
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a. Please note that i did not extrapolate how much EXTRA per year you'll save, just to keep it simple.
If U wish to simulate, please change cell C3 of "NetSalarySave&Invest-NoHome" and "NetSalarySave&Invest-WithHome" worksheet
b. There is a variance of about $290K between both scenarios, about 64% difference.
Note: I did not include the worth of your house into the scenarios since it's a home, not investment/rental property, making U $ or easily disposed
c. As U anticipated earlier.. whoa.. buying a home MAY not be a good idea in terms of growing investment returns
64% is a significant difference by the end of the 40 years loan tenure, i'll be so much "richer" if i dont own a house... and according to your simulation, its like you're suggesting ASB is the best investment option... I feel it to, but is it ok to put all eggs in one basket? a golden basket...
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IMHO, bottom line:+Buying a home is NOT an investment per se UNLESS... maybe if there is a huge property market crash when U buy and U intend to rent out a few rooms heheh.
The main objective of buying a home is to have a place to be yours, grow roots, etc. and totally be yourself.
+Since you've thought it out well (location of your $300K home) and reasoned it well + we didn't include ANY bonuses nor average increments... it is safe enough to consider buying.
Combined net income for the loan & operations of the home looks ok - 26%ish excluding net income growth AND bonuses.
-IF consider buying now, before getting married, be wary of "joint" purchase.
er.. sorry to be a wet blanket.. your current squeeze may not turn out to be your future partner/spouse.. then how ar?
awkward like heck man + may be forced to sell at a loss
Hope some of the ideas/items above + the Excel is of use
Just a thought

I have been following the property thread for quite some time now.. There are 2 type of extreme there, one so convince that bubble will burst anytime now and another is "if dont buy now, in future fresh grad would not able to buy anymore" type of ppl.. thus, creating a sense that as if if i buy a house now, im rushing to it.. So after your analysis, i give me great relief.. btw, im not in dire need to buy a house since i wouldnt mind staying in the house i am at now after marriage due to that my mom is a widow, so its good also if i stay to accompany her.. so its still a win-win situation if i get or dont get a house.. but like you said, its better to have a place of my own.. and it could yield some rentals if im not staying...
btw, you been of great help... taking time helping a stranger to plan for life... you should get a award for that