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izzudrecoba
post Mar 21 2012, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Feb 27 2012, 01:20 AM)
Hi Merchant9,

My response below. I'm a growth strategy consultant and recently embarked on investment as well.



Hi I'm new to this section.

We are married with a baby. Expecting another this year. Both my husband and I are working. The house is paid up and other responsibilities such as insurance and children education fund are paid by husband.

Now, given 200k cash I don't know what kind of investment to do.

1. Public mutual? Already have some from EPF approved funds but seem is slow. Elder advise to wait 10-20 years to see it bear fruit.
You may consider an online unit trust trading via fundsupermart (Low service charge of only 2% as compared to 5.5% from Public Mutual). If you are a Muslim, I suggest you invest in the consistently-performing Kenanga Syariah Growth Fund.

2. Gold? New to this, is it buy from Maybank is suffice?
Gold is traditionally a hedge against inflation, albeit peoples are considering it as an asset class/investment due to its excellent return as compared to S&P 500 over the past 10 years. For gold saving account, pick UOB gold saving account (due to lowest spread rate of only 1.15%). For physical gold, pick UOB (Australian Kangaroo Nugget due to low spread rate compared to other banks) for you to own and pawn it at ar-rahnu to leverage on the pawned money for an additional asset-class purchasing.

3. Silver? Sure??? Don't see silver as valuable???
Silver is a highly volatile precious metal. Not recommend for a short term. But if you have foresight skills like the legendary John Paulson, you can reap hell of profits if you manage to buy low and sell high.

4. ING unit trust? Agent approached us but skeptical.
Refer to answer no.1

Both of us not financial expert. Just want to invest money grow money so got some thing for our children in future. Please share some ideas.
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post Apr 27 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Apr 25 2012, 08:33 PM)
What should I do best with 60k cash in hand?

Note: I am eligible to invest in ASB.

Thinking to spend in gold a bit and invest in unit trust. Which fund?  rclxub.gif

Commitment:

Rental: 550
Car Loans @ 2.87% interest: 641 monthly
140k housing loan: BLR-2.1 29 years (tenanted property @ 650 monthly)
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Some ideas.


For gold, the best is:-

Physical Gold: UOB Kangaroo Nugget 1 Oz (The lowest spread rate between 3-4%, can pawn and sell back to UOB)

Paper Gold: UOB Gold Savings Account (The lowest spread rate of only 1.15%)


For *Unit Trust, recommended unit trusts are:-

Non-Syariah: Kenanga Growth Fund (One of the best performing malaysia equity fund over the years; low volatility against KLCI index, higher sharpe ratio, lower sales charge via Fundsupermart 0.88% - 2% versus Public Mutual 5.5%)

Syariah: Kenanga Syariah Growth Fund (The best Malaysia Islamic equity fund over the years; low volatility against KLCI index, higher sharpe ratio, lower sales charge via Fundsupermart 0.88% - 2% versus Public Mutual 5.5%)


Additional Suggestion:-

Invest RM27k to pay downpayment for a double storey terrace house (freehold) at Pelangi Semenyih Phase 2A, with an estimated ROI of 30 - 35% within 3-5 years (link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...43&hl=semenyih)



* Kindly check morningstar.com for the said unit trust details


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post Jun 25 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 24 2012, 08:32 PM)
Hi there, after working for sometimes, I think I need to put in thought for some investments.

Currently 26 years old, single.
After EPF/income tax deduction: RM 3.8k

Monthly expenses:
Phone: RM 80
Broadband: RM 68
Parents: RM 600
Rental: RM 265
Transportation: RM 100 (LRT)
Food: RM 600
Student's Loan: RM 250
Credit card: RM 400 (not fixed, could be lower or max up to RM 500)
Total: RM 2363

I only have about RM 1.5k savings every month due to high cost of living in KL. Another problem with me is I can't stop myself from spending all the time, whenever I see that I have some money in the savings, I would start imagining the gadgets that I want to own. Very bad I know.

So, I made up my mind now, I'll use the savings every month to do some investment.

Besides, I also do online business that gives me a return of about RM 1k, but due to job commitment, I might retract this business anytime soon. I won't factor this in as my fixed income.

Let's say if I start my investment with 5k, what can I do with it? I wanna get a property in KL but God knows when only I can afford one. rclxub.gif

I love travelling but most of the time, the travelling expenses hold me back... sad.gif

Appreciate your advice. How and where should I start with? Thanks in advance! notworthy.gif
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Some suggestions:

Let's say if I start my investment with 5k, what can I do with it? I wanna get a property in KL but God knows when only I can afford one. rclxub.gif

Gold --> UOB Gold Savings Account or UOB Physical Gold (Kangaroo Nugget) if you are confident to make profit through pawn via ar-Rahnu.

Unit Trust --> Fundsupermart due to low sales charge of only 2% (Top Equity: Kenanga Growth Fund, Top Bond: AmDynamic Bond). Adopt a dollar-cost-averaging strategy.

Property --> Landed 2-stry terrace house at Semenyih for RM 350k (http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2318543&hl=semenyih). MOT, stamp duty, legal fees, disbursement all borned by developer. ROI of about 20-30% upon completion. (Can make profit between RM 70k - 100k upon completion).


I love travelling but most of the time, the travelling expenses hold me back... sad.gif

Travel --> Buy Air Asia ticket during promotion (common sense). Bought hotel ticket using Agoda. Use cash rebate credit card like Maybankard 2 Amex (5% cash rebate) to save more money.

Appreciate your advice. How and where should I start with? Thanks in advance! notworthy.gif

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post Jun 26 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(mktong @ Jun 25 2012, 10:12 PM)
im becoming 32 this oct. SINGLE NOT MARRIED. net income about RM14k to RM15k monthly.
commitment:
1. home 1 loan rm3620 - rm 690k outstanding
2. home 2 loan rm 860 - rm165k outstanding
3. car loan rm1180 - 8 yrs to go
4. credit card installment rm860 - 2 yrs to go ( installment for kitchen reno)
5. credit card rm1000-2000 monthly ( gas, phone bill, entertainment, hypermarket)
6. petty cash spending rm2000-3000 monthly. (food, the rest i dunno where they go)
7. fixed monthly savings rm2600

savings + properties
1. home 1 value rm 1.1m (occupied by parents in penang, im working in kl)
2. home 2 value rm 230k ( kosong now, not tenanted, up for sales for 6 months oredi )
3. car value about rm90k
4. EPF rm 143k - up to date
5. rm2600 monthly into investment plan , total investment up to june 2012 rm142k  , yield aboud 8% pa.
i dont have much to save after all this. what else can i do to improve my cash flow.i earn a modest income but my wallet always empty. i dun have any insurance plan , my company provides them. i m planning to stop my monthly rm2.6k investment, as i dunwan to put all eggs into 1 basket. what can i do with the rm2.6k? unit trust? stock?property? but i really hate property , hard to dispose. occasionally i go to genting, most of the times i lost.

most ppl think im ok, but my cashflow is very tight, i also dunno how to explain to my parents and friends.
what can i do to improve everything. can someone suggest me a good investment plan. or should i do nothing , just let my epf take cares of me after retirement.
thank u
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My suggestions:-

1. Since you use credit card in a huge amount every month, switch to either Maybankard Amex 2 Platinum or OCBC Titanium Credit Card. The idea is to take advantage of the cash rebate of 5% offered by these cards ( 5x points for Amex) and take advantage of the lowest interest rate of only 8.88% per annum (Maybankard Amex 2 Platinum).

2. Switch your credit card installment to balance transfer to minimize the monthly payment. Public Bank Credit Card offered 8 months 0% interest. Maybank offered attractive Balance Transfer offer too.

3. Minimize your food monthly expenses. RM 100 daily for a food can be considered high. Smoking, overeating and drinking are costly habits to maintain. You'll save money by cutting out on the regular spending it's costing you, and you'll probably save on insurance premiums and long-term health costs. It's the ultimate win-win.

4. For your fixed monthly savings, you may want to invest in equity-bond-REIT via Fundsupermart (low sales charge of 2% instead of 5.5%). My pick for equity is Kenanga Growth Fund / Kenanga Syariah Growth Fund (ROI on average 25%/year, almost on-par with Soros Quantum Fund, which generated an average annual return of more than 30% while he was at the helm). Bond is Amdynamic Bond (ROI on average 8-10%/year). Adopt a regular savings plan and you will enjoy 1% sales charge for 6 months.

5. For hedge against inflation and portfolio diversification, invest in physical gold (I personally prefer UOB Kangaroo Nugget 1oz as the coin can be pawned for another profit manipulation). Hedge-Fund Titans such as Soros, John Paulson and Republican Ron Paul have invested a lot of their wealth in gold bullion and gold fund, due to the worsening situation in the US and Europe. Alternatively, you may want to invest in paper gold in UOB Gold Savings Account (spread rate of only RM 2 only).

6. Your EPF account 1 is underpowered. Since you are still in the early 30's, you may want to invest your EPF savings account 1 in equity via Fundsupermart (1 -2% sales charge) to obtain higher return for your retirement money. I have invested my EPF investment via Public Mutual before but found out that the 3% sales charge a bit high. I have switched to Fundsupermart since June 2012 for my unit trust investment for my EPF account 1.

Wish you godspeed in your personal finance undertaking, mktong. RM 15k at the age of 32 is quiet a good salary for an employee. thumbup.gif

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post Jun 27 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(mktong @ Jun 27 2012, 03:57 AM)
izzudrecoba,
first of all i want to say thank you. this is going to be my another major investment thru fundsupermart. are you from kl?
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Welcome mktong and yes I'm from KL. I have found out that Fundsupermart was useful for us to independently monitor our investment portfolio and subsequently pave the way for us to be an active investor. For the new account holder, you will enjoy 1% of sales charge for one month rclxm9.gif

Can you PM me your email address so that I can send you the invitation email from FSM for a new account holder registration icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 4 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(tjx3 @ Jul 3 2012, 10:04 PM)
Hi all Sifu,

I want to make my $$ work for me to become financial freedom, that my goal
Expenses/Commitments:

Insurance (GE) = RM160 per month (medical card)
Savings plans Pru Flexicash = RM1200 per month for 20 years
Parent= RM300 monthly
Food = +/- RM400 per month (home cook most of the time)
Entertainment = +/- RM200 per month
Transport: RM 160/mth
Data plan & Internet paid by company

extra cash RM1200/MTH

please suggest me to archieve my goal
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Unit trust --> Kenanga Growth Fund via Fundsupermart (Average ROI about 25%/year)

Gold --> UOB Gold savings account (minimum 5g subsequent investment)

Bond --> AmDynamic Bond via Fundsupermart (Average about 10-12%/year)

Cash --> ASB (The safest bet for Bumi)


If I were you, I will invest 5g at UOB Gold savings account (About +-RM 850) and RM 350 at Kenanga Growth Fund via Fundsupermart. Apply dollar cost averaging for these investments. Take note that the cost of investment is 1.15% (UOB gold) and 2% (Fundsupermart sales charge) each. icon_rolleyes.gif

Kindly PM me your email address if you want me to send the account opening invitation to your email.


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post Jul 4 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 4 2012, 10:57 AM)
er.. bro.. i've seen such "statements" by folks before leh, pre 2008 for things like PCSF and stuff, and we know how those turned out right?
"Average ROI about 25%/year" may mislead people.

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wongmunkeong,

Please check the Kenanga Growth return for 2,3,5 and 10 years below:-

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYKNGGF


The average calculation for 2,3,5 and 10 turn out to be roughly 25%. Please don't say that my statement may mislead people, because the last thing that I want is to con and mislead people in their financial investment from their hard-earned money.


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post Jul 5 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 4 2012, 08:16 PM)
In investment, the past is not an accurate indication of the future

'nuff said sleep.gif


Added on July 4, 2012, 8:17 pmand as per wong correctly pointed out, your calculation of 25% is flawed
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Pink Spider,

While past performance is a poor predictor of future returns, there are other factors that we can use to increase our odds of finding a good fund (Such as lower standard variation, high sharpe ratio, low frequent stocks trade, and stock-picking skills). As we’ve already seen, yesterday’s winners often become tomorrow’s losers. But researchers have shown that one thing is almost certain: Yesterday’s losers almost never become tomorrow’s winners.

And what's your problem with saying my calculation is flawed? Are you a human being who like to say error or mistake in other untactful? The idea to share knowledge to us in forum is for us to benefit everyone in picking some of the top fund - be it OSK Kidsave Trust, Areqa Fund or Kenanga Fund series.

FUND PERFORMANCE (BID TO BID CUMULATIVE RETURNS)for Kenanga Growth Fund:

2 years: 52.3 = 26.2

3 years: 89.8 = 29.9

5 years: 81.9 = 16.38

10 years: 244.1 = 24.41

Average roughly around 24.2.



Kenanga fund buys planters, consumer stocks


Malaysia’s best-performing fund in the past year is buying consumer and plantation stocks that are benefiting from government efforts to bolster domestic growth and a rally in palm oil prices.

Kenanga Growth Fund, with assets of RM59 million (US$19 million) as of March 31, favors companies including Dutch Lady Milk Industries Bhd and Nestle (Malaysia) Bhd, Chen Fan Fai, investment director at Kenanga Investors Bhd, said in an interview in Kuala Lumpur on April 23. The fund beat 370 other Malaysian equity mutual funds in the past year with an 18 percent return, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Dutch Lady has doubled in the past year, outpacing the FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index’s 3.9 percent gain.

Gauges of consumer and plantation stocks are the best performers of 10 industry groups on the Malaysian bourse in the past year on optimism Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s 2012 budget plan to distribute cash to low-income families, raise wages for civil servants and boost spending on transportation will bolster growth and consumption. Palm-oil futures have surged 9.2 percent this year and hit a 13-month high on April 10.

“Consumer stocks have done well because they are more resilient in any downturn and the government’s drive to boost income levels will also be positive for consumption,” Chen said. “We have always liked plantation stocks because demand for crude palm oil is ever on the rise.”

The Kenanga Growth Fund beat 97 percent of its peers in the past three years and 98 percent of them over five years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. It was named Malaysia’s best equity fund in 2011 by Morningstar Inc. Chen said he’s willing to buy stocks even before an election that Najib may call as early as June, according to four government officials who spoke on condition of anonymity last month.

Concern a poor election result for Najib would disrupt the government’s spending plans has limited the KLCI index’s gain to 3.4 percent this year, the second-worst performance among Asia- Pacific benchmark indexes after Sri Lanka, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The MSCI Emerging-Markets Index has risen 10 percent in 2012.

Investors will probably be wary of the stock market before the polls, Tan Ting Min, an analyst at the Malaysian unit of Credit Suisse Group AG, wrote in a report dated March 7.

“Investors don’t like uncertainties,” said Kenanga’s Chen. “Uncertainties can be positive or negative. The outcome is not certain so nobody knows which way it’s going to go. We take a view that there is not going to be a change in the government.”

Gains by Malaysian consumer stocks pushed valuations relative to the Bloomberg World Consumer Non Cyclical Index to a four-month high on April 13. The Bursa Malaysia Consumer Index of 136 stocks, which includes carmakers Tan Chong Motor Holdings Bhd. and Proton Holdings Bhd, has rallied 11 percent in the past 12 months, outpacing a 3.9 percent gain in the KLCI index. The Selangor state-based Nestle Malaysia, the local unit of the world’s biggest food company, has advanced 16 percent.

“We focus more on consumption,” Chen said. “Sector-wise, that’s probably our biggest bet.”

Southeast Asia’s third-biggest economy may expand 4.2 percent in 2012 on domestic demand, thanks to increased private investment and state spending, the Malaysian Institute of Economic Research, a partly government-funded institute, said in a statement on April 17. The body earlier estimated 3.7 percent growth. This is in line with the central bank’s revised forecast of 4 percent to 5 percent on March 22.

Najib unveiled economic and government transformation plans in 2010 and identified $444 billion of private sector-led projects this decade to bolster growth and achieve high-income status by 2020.

The Bursa Malaysia Plantation Index of 43 members including IOI Corp and Kuala Lumpur Kepong Bhd has surged 15 percent in the past year. The plantation measure trades at 13.9 times estimated profit, compared with a record-low 6.25 times in October 2008, weekly data compiled by Bloomberg shows.

Palm oil will advance to RM3,800 a metric ton in Kuala Lumpur by Dec. 31, the highest level since February 2011, according to the median of 11 analyst and trader estimates compiled by Bloomberg. Palm oil futures fell as much as 0.8 percent to RM3,448 a metric ton yesterday.

“Palm oil prices have been firmer than expected,” Chen said. “The offshoot of this will be higher income for families in the rural area who are involved in agriculture. This will also give a boost to consumption.” -- Bloomberg



Read more: Kenanga fund buys planters, consumer stocks http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/20120425.../#ixzz1zlg7CVXN

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post Jul 6 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jul 6 2012, 11:41 AM)
I think should look at bid to bid annualized return la which is more actual. Not the bid to bid Cumulative return.
FUND PERFORMANCE (BID-TO-BID ANNUALIZED RETURNS)
Period                                3 mth6 mth 1 yr  2 yr  3 yr  5 yr  10 yr
Bid to Bid Returns (%) - RM  2.5  7.5  11.7  23.8  24.1  12.8  13.2
Performance figures (as of July 4, 2012): Last updated on July 6, 2012.
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+1. Thank you Kaka23 for sharing. My bad.

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