Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Personal financial management, V2

views
     
desertkids
post Dec 13 2011, 05:43 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(vivo1314 @ Dec 7 2011, 01:39 AM)
Hi there, just hope to get some advise on my financial managment.

23years old, male, KL.
Just graduate diploma in business admin(segi),
Currently working as marketing executive in financial training company,
Just started 2 months ++, previously studying and working temporary and part time job

Petrol -270/mth
Food - 150(22wrking days)
HLA saving plan- 435.50(HLA cash builder premium-92.93), (rider critical illness waiver premium-1.32), (builder two-341.25)
Handphone - 200(internet+call+sms+iphone)
Family - 300
Epf - (350-390)
Pcb - (30-50)
Others variable -450

Salary - (RM 2700-3000)depends on working allwnces
Saving - (550-850)

I actually owns an internet website/fb selling things, but am hardly doing it now. Trying to think some sort of a way bcos i wanted to buy house, car, saving for business and marriage. Am still a newbie in property, investment or shares. I am lucky that i am staying with family that i do not need to pay for any house rental, car loan or house loan. But i wish to own a car, house, business and marries before 29-30years old.

Dear sifuss, please advise:) thank you!
*
1st u r very gud cz u stil have saving every month & dont have any debt...clean like a white paper.below are many point from my 2cents.
1)for ur epf, 11% of ur salary shud between 292-330 only..check with ur account y they deduct much..
2)ur food expense oso ok,150 for 22 days..ard rm7 per day..wat u eat ar?
3)petrol expense quick high for u..u doing sales?or ur house very far from work?does it including ur parking?maintenance?
4)about other variable-its important for u to list down where u use that money..outing?shopping?drink?
5)handphone-200 per month is kinda high too..bt if its ur only entertainment n cnt live without it..jz enjoy it.. biggrin.gif
6)ur insurans expense very high!is it saving plan include?normally v shud nt over insure means its premium shud nt more than 10% of ur income.
7)for emergency fund..i tink u nd spare cash around rm7k since u dun hv car/house, 4k put in e-FD, just left ard 3k in ur saving account ok liao.
8)in da mean time u save for ur emergency fund, go learn investment, it can be property/unit trust/share...bt make sure start with low risk 1st, remember high returns normally come with high risk..
9)to built up ur credit records,u cn apply a credit card,use n pay with gud record..to help u secure ur car&housing loan next time..

for car loan, i personally suggest u get 9 years loan..Y?becoz it depends da loan interest.nw it kinda low, ard 2.8%,since it lower than FD rate..y u nd fork out more money to pay downpayment.better use ur xtra money do some investment. remember calculate interest rate 1st b4 do any invest or loan..

u have to set target when to buy car,house,etc..
exp-
buy car when u 24 -5k
house wen u 26
start business wen u 27
marry wen u 29
do write down ur budget for every target too...

icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kingzzfed @ Dec 13 2011, 09:07 AM)
Hi there, just hope to get some advise  smile.gif

23years old, male, KL.

Petrol/touch n go-250
Food - 250
Handphone - 161(internet+call+sms+iphone)
Internet - 88
Insurance - 250 ( medical card,life insurance , PA , 36 critical illness)
Public Mutual - 200 (auto debit for public mutual every month)
Home allowance - 400
Saving - 200
miscellaneous (entertainment,grocery) - 250

total - 2049
Salary -Rm 2700

i do have 3 months emergency funds in FD..
how is it?
*
Petrol/touch n go-250 -- ok
Food - 250 -- ok(wat u eat so cheap?)
Handphone - 161(internet+call+sms+iphone) -- ok since u use iphone
Internet - 88 -- ok,bt better cancel it,nt worth use 2 internet plan.
Insurance - 250 ( medical card,life insurance , PA , 36 critical illness) -- ok, make sure u hv right insurans plan, dun under or over insure.
Public Mutual - 200 (auto debit for public mutual every month) -- ok bt do ur agent calc hw muc u shud invest every month to achieve ur goal?
Home allowance - 400 -- ok
Saving - 200 -- where this saving go?saving account?FD?
miscellaneous (entertainment,grocery) - 250 -- ok

total - 2049
Salary -Rm 2700(need deduct ard 350 for epf+socso+pcb)

after ur normal expense, u stil have 15% salary left..bt where u spend ur amount left?beside da rm200 savings?
desertkids
post Jul 18 2012, 09:42 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(pandaeyess @ Jul 17 2012, 09:38 PM)
Would like suggestion on how to better increase my current wealth. Here are some of my details

Age: 32
Income after deduction of socso, epf and utilities : RM5000/month
Side income from side business : 3k-5k/ month
Cash : 60K
Stocks (KLSE) : 13K (current value - all paper loss residual value)
Property Loan 1 : 1k/month 20yrs (my house)
Property Loan 2 : 1.7k/month 20 yrs (partially rented)
Food + Shopping + Entertainment + CC : 2k - 3k / month
ASM : 40K
Car : Company car
Insurance + medical card : RM5000k per anum (paid by company)
FD : 200k

At the moment I am pretty happy with my financial situation, however with my money mostly in FD, I think I am loosing out to inflation.
I am thinking of pumping 70% of my cash into my flexi loan on property 1 and see what I can do with part of my FD.
I do not plan to invest my EPF money for anything since I do think EPF is giving pretty ok returns (hopefully EPF dont go bust!)
May want to invest on a 3rd property but with property prices this high now, seems like buying one for investment don't seem a good idea.

After reading the forums I am also toying on the idea of getting Unit Trust (maybe bonds since local equity is all time high now) but at the moment I do not really have much knowledge of UT. A few years back, I was into stocks. I did make some money there but decided to stop after thee slump (thus the reason of my remaining paperloss shares). In no hurry to sell them since I have already got back my capital in stocks. If I do try out UT, should I just pick some award winning fund and start cost averaging with fixed monthly payment or put in a lump sum and then follow through with fixed monthly payment?

Ideally, I want to retire  at the age of 55yrs with monthly returns of 25k but not too sure how to get there yet.
Going to be a father soon so need to think about that too! $$$

Any suggestion on what is best to be done with my current situation?
*
just my 2cents...

you need the 60k cash as emergency fund, so better don't lock in your cash into your flexi loan, but if your flexi loan can withdraw 60k immediately when you need that cash, no harm to pump in.

EPF normally giving 4-6% return pa..if you feel comfort with this return until age 55/60, then keep it. else you can try use your epf acc 1 money to get slightly higher return in UT, since you stil got 23 years more to retire?

UT almost similar concept with ASM, so i think you should can accept it too..but if you wan moderate risk and moderate return, why not dump more money into ASM?

for your car and insurance, just in case you no more work for your current company, you need to pay it yourself? or you is the boss of your current company so no need worry it? biggrin.gif

no idea on your share holding, just keep it and enjoy dividend if your share giving good dividend every year.. thumbup.gif

for UT, just IMHO, i prefer cost averaging + lump sum like wong sifu way..

25k monthly return??!!! mean 1 year 300k...if count in inflation for 23 years from now, tk average 3% inflation pa, you need 600k return pa during your 55 yrs old. you need at least 10million investment value that can give you 6% return pa.

be prepare yourself before enter any investment tools, go buy personal money magazine and learn 1st..now i also learning too..

sifu sifu here please correct me if my statement got any wrong.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
desertkids
post Jul 18 2012, 10:27 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(wodenus @ Jul 18 2012, 10:15 AM)
Rm!0million + Rm360k a year, is going to make someone really happy when he's gone smile.gif persomally it makes economic sense to start a business that supplies his other biusness what they need. You get to ensure supply, benefit from economy of scale, and make more money by selling the extra supply smile.gif

EPF is not going anywhere anytime soon, I'm sure the funds are insured. If they can insure savings/FD surely they can insure EPF as well.
*
EPF money also got insure by gov meh? dunno o.. btw EPF invest most of their money in bond market, so its risk are far far lower compare to other equity fund.

btw Pandaeyess please do a test for your risk acceptance profile 1st before do your investment planning..
desertkids
post Jul 19 2012, 10:19 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(pandaeyess @ Jul 18 2012, 10:20 PM)
Thx for the suggestions,

Desertkid - the insurance and car is paid by my company so unless something drastic happens to it, it would be paid for. BTW, how do I test my risk acceptance profile?

Kaka - I have done share trading before.... can make money but can also loose a lot. I have experience that before but luckily I came out on the positive. I am now waiting for a major pullback on KLSE and then maybe go in a bit on high dividend stocks. As for UT, I am still very new to it as I am just trying to grasp the concept and how one can get good returns in the long term. Will be reading more in this forum to find out.

wodenus - looking up new business opportunities is also what I am studying at but I would rather diversify then concentrate on the same trade line to be honest.

10 mil savings, gosh, never thought of that. I was just thinking in the line of owning enough physical property and on the day I retire, my rental, investments, dividends, passive side business etc can give me 25k returns a month to keep me and my wife going  biggrin.gif
*
try this http://www.craigsip.com/resources/tools-ca...k-profiler.html

waiting major pullback, i also waiting but no bullet doh.gif ..but before the major pullback come you have to do some analysis 1st to decide which share you will buy at what price..?

new business opportunities, you can try those franchise business, some more gov gt provide loan for doing franchise business icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(megat_johan @ Jul 19 2012, 01:40 AM)
hi guys,
would like to meet personally the expert in financial management. i have an  issue with my monthly expenditure. End up with almost empty account towards the end of the month.

do PM me if ur keen to help me. I'll buy you a lunch/coffee/etc. Just 2-3 hour meeting.

sad.gif
*
savings, protection, investment, expenditure...

but most of us in the reverse way..expense 1st,last only save.. sweat.gif
there are no easy way for financial planning..must keep your expense lower by cutting down unnecessary expense.
then find other way to generate more income like doing part time.. nod.gif
desertkids
post Jul 19 2012, 04:10 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(mfharun @ Jul 19 2012, 03:57 PM)
My status

1. Net income : RM3700
2. Age : 26
3. Asset : RM 160,000 in ASB
4. Passive income : RM 10000 anually from Bank Rakyat

Current situation

1. Want to buy a house with the price of RM 262,975.
2. Want to make house loan of 200,000. Forking out 60,000 from ASB for the upfront.
3. Paying about RM 1100 monthly for 25 years.
2. Just submitted my documents to the sales agent and waiting for my loan approval.

My plan.

1. Make RM 100,000 ASB loan. Paying RM 590 monthly to maybank for 25 years.
2. Thus, my total share in ASB : RM 200,000 (limit alrdy)

My question :

How can i finish up my loan (ASB & housing) as quickly as possible but at the same time gaining my assets ? Any idea?

Thank you in advance guys.
*
apply flexi loan..dump in your extra saving every month into your loan account. maybe can finish your loan faster? hmm.gif
desertkids
post Aug 2 2012, 06:06 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(tom_87 @ Aug 1 2012, 03:29 PM)
yeah dude...u ve given me a motivation...huhu...i ll talk about this afternoon...thanx...will update tomorrow...huhu...
wish me luck...
*
wish you good luck! flex.gif
desertkids
post Apr 6 2013, 09:51 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(AIAF @ Apr 6 2013, 05:28 PM)
Hmm thanks for the advice. Looking around the forum I think since I've already decided to get a car it would be better for me to ask at the car section.  doh.gif

Back to financial planning.

So from what I read so far it's better to have at least an emergency fund of at least 6 months salary before I start any kind of investment? So 2.5kx6=15k ? Better not touch anything before that?
*
for a fresh grad have 3 month salary is more than enuf..u nd 6 month after u gt marry. 2.5k x 3 = 7.5k..5k put in eFD (3month auto renew).2.5k put in saving account..

after that you should go buy medical card & pa insurance.

buying new car or used car is up to you, since u already have 1 problematic old car in house, y stil wan waste money go buy another used car? i tink either major repair the old car or buy new car better. 2.5k, cn consider saga or viva..

just my 2cents.. biggrin.gif
desertkids
post Aug 20 2013, 03:28 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 20 2013, 02:01 PM)
Recommend me how to invest my money

Age 25
Sales executive

Rm60k in bank
Currently all in fd only

Loan: 5 years rm518 proton saga

Salary 5k
*
i think you need proper financial planning first before invest your money.

1) your current financial status, cashflow? emergency saving? other commitment?
2) your goal of investment? house?
3) your risk appetite?aggressive? moderate? low?
4) your time horizon of investment?

there are many investment in the market, share, unit trust, property, gold, silver, interest scheme...
No one is the best, just see you understand & comfortable with the investment or not...

just my 2cents...cheers! icon_rolleyes.gif
desertkids
post Aug 22 2013, 12:32 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 22 2013, 07:37 AM)

*
1) 60k can be your downpayment & misc fee for buying your first house. 5k income can give you max housing loan to about roughly 300-350k...
keep 15k in saving account for your emergency cash. invest the 45k or use it to buy house,

2) you wan a new house or subsales? nowadays new property for a condo easily more than rm400psf in prime location, but buying a new house there are possibility you can enjoy low downpayment,DIBS, etc. buying a subsales then you need to get a good house with reasonable market value.

3) moderate - low then will advise you transfer part of your saving to balanced fund / bond fund in unit trust, earning 4-6% return p.a. there are many questionnaire to test your risk profile.

4) time horizon, how long you can keep this money for invest? or how long you wont touch the money for personal usage? assuming you need 100k to buy your 1st house in 3 years time. then 3 years will be your investment time horizon.

icon_rolleyes.gif
desertkids
post Aug 28 2013, 11:22 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
107 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 28 2013, 10:52 PM)
They dun impose sales charge, correct?
*
please check ppa website. if your term of GOOD is not impose sales charge, then you may have less choice.
http://www.ppa.my/providers/providers-schemes/

all fund jz launch less than 1 year..hard to compare performance.btw you may refer to the fund manager & their track record on their managed unit trust fund.
or you open account with each provider than let us know?? tongue.gif

Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0726sec    0.19    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 1st December 2025 - 07:50 AM