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ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 09:54 AM

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Hi guys, need advice due to screwed up financial decisions; Was pushed by family to get an entry level Japanese car @ 100% loan, 9 years 2.48% (GG Liao). I am 22 years old (foreveralone.jpg) and I feel I'm terribly ridden into debt.

3000 - Salary
0425 - KWSP + Socso
0150 - Company Stock

2425 - Nett Salary

501 - Public Mutual - Fixed
300 - Education Loan - Fixed
752 - Car Loan - Fixed
401 - Personal (Toll, Phone, Bills, Groceries, Food, Social, Car Maintenance/Care etc. etc.) - Variable. Last month budget burst to 500 due to too many social events by boss.
200 - Petrol - Variable
150 - Room rent - Fixed


120 - Balance Savings


Suggestions required to improve this situation. Thank you all notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by ak101ss: Aug 14 2013, 09:56 AM
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post Aug 14 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 10:27 AM)
u still got balance of 120, and u still got cash to invest, what trouble u have? rclxub.gif
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Not enough liquid asset for rainy day.. that investment i consider as commitment/debt as I was forced into it and I have no access for its capital/dividends for 20 years.
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 10:48 AM)
Public Mutual = no access for 20 years??? who forced u??? blink.gif

rule of thumb, BEFORE U INVEST, u must have a reserve of some liquid assets for emergencies, 3-12 months of ur expenses depending on ur job security
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Parents le, who else want to force..

Job is somewhat equivalent to government job, very secure, but very minimal increment. Promotion also rarely will happen.

I know about that rule of thumb for a reserve of 9 months of debts+expenses, but what to do le, parents overpower me le..
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 11:09 AM)
OMG u already a grownup, already working, please take charge of ur life doh.gif

gomen job...keep 6 months of expenses/cash needs lar.
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6 mths eh? That means ikat perut on personal expenses and save bonuses le, ok will do.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 14 2013, 11:12 AM)
hmm.gif what can we do, what can we do then. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
...show your post to your parents, then keep us informed of the outcome will you?
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Parents conform will disown me wan.. kekekeke, thanks for the feedback guys. appreciate it.
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 14 2013, 11:23 AM)
not bad has parent influse to have saving habits. Not many have it.
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saving habit ok, but then force me to take entry level japanese car instead of saga sv.. i can buy two saga sv with car i bought instead.. really tension habis le..
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 14 2013, 11:35 AM)
1)what the comitment for japanese car with saga sv ?
2)what the reason want japanese car and you want saga sv ?

If your sharing with your parent, then likehood you must follow them becoz they also helping paying for the car.

Juz be happy, you got a car. Not everybody also can afford a car.
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1)Japanese car 100% loan of 68k 9 years, Saga SV means 34k = 350 monthly in comparison with 750 monthly.
1)Maintenance and petrol somewhat will be equivalent as malaysian car maintenance low, petrol high, jap car maintenance high, petrol low.

2) God knows why they want me to get Jap car, I want saga SV cause extremely cheap and I can have real proper savings.

A-Z cost is beared by me, no one helping me to pay.


QUOTE(zenwell @ Aug 14 2013, 11:38 AM)
1st time i heard of parents forced their kid to buy a car that the kid can hardly afford.  sweat.gif
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Yealo, die wo me.. I stopped taking dinner also..

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 11:39 AM)
No.

Last time I wanna buy a Gen.2 (I can only safely afford it) but my dad keep ask me take Honda City.

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Hyundai still cheap ma.. City means die lo..


This post has been edited by ak101ss: Aug 14 2013, 11:45 AM
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post Aug 14 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 11:45 AM)
what's done is done, just get on with it. Unless u wanna sell it brows.gif
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Must settle loan first ma, I dare not do the sambung bayar stuff all, confirm will have issues.

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post Aug 14 2013, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 14 2013, 11:46 AM)
ah, tell your parents about the Sales charges you are paying to PM...do the maths + the interest for 20 years...will will be a shock!
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5.5% right? yea I know, what to do, my dad ni is the PM agent, so gg le I..

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 11:47 AM)
who say u must settle loan before u sell it? doh.gif

just that chances are u would like to top up to sell (e.g. u sell for RM50K, loan outstanding is RM65K, u gotta top up 15K)
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Wah top up that much means gg le, might as well i crash it nicely into a tree and make it as a total loss. Get insurance to settle loan and get a saga SV..
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 11:51 AM)
FYI, insurance compensate u based on market value, not sum insured whistling.gif

ur dad ni dracula laugh.gif
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New car ma, and the car is over insured, loan amount around 69k, current insured is 72k... cause can't get 100% loan so overquoted the price of the car to fit in the loan..

Yea my dad pocket money increase lo.. sigh..
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 14 2013, 11:55 AM)
try to tink other way SON, you havent ask them why they want you buy Japnese car.

I believe is either for quality and safety reason. Juz look different that your family want you be safe driving it. Not i said saga not good. Is juz my view i put from your parent. You can forget it..what i said....it not from them.

You have to talk with them, no point throw FIRE with FIRE, end you burn each other hand.

I learn my mistake same like you not becoz car but property. End up im noting to them.

I agree with your buy cheaper car is better becoz car is depreciation, then YOU have the same WEAKNESS dont hv the skill of NEGOTIATION with own parent what it look like to accept their and our opinion.

So go back try to talk again with peace.
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Quality and safety? It's an Almera la, zero safety, tin milo like Saga SV only..

There is no such thing as negotiations with them, their word is law le.. Very irritating to try to talk with them also, live/run away 400km++ from them also they torture me through the phone..

The only way is to fully escape jump to offshore job, they can't contact me for shit.. lol. but now still can't find offshore job.. my luck..
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post Aug 14 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 14 2013, 11:57 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif think of it the other way, what ever he has, sooner or later it will yours or part of it will be yours and what ever yours will be yours rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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No chance, I'm not the eldest in the family

QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 14 2013, 11:58 AM)
Your dad also Insurance agent.....?
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Yes, but he didn't do it for the car, he usually life+PA+medical insurance guy.
ak101ss
post Aug 14 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 14 2013, 11:59 AM)
sum insured is irrelavant, insurer will compensate based on lower of market value and sum insured
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then gg le.. suffer with car ni le..
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post Aug 14 2013, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Aug 14 2013, 12:10 PM)
then you no choice, you cant bear the life with your parent.

The choice you have is work/stay far away from your parent.

New Gen - Y then start to find work FAR FAR FAR away and never look back or miss your Mummy cooking.

rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  then you must know\learning to manageable your self alone.
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Already working very far away from them. They're in Southern region, I'm in Northern region. But they still manage to torture me via phone email etc etc. Next time must be somewhere so isolated, they can't reach me by any means lol.

Can manage self alone, can't manage them only lol.

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