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SUSPink Spider
post Jan 15 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jan 15 2012, 02:57 PM)
rm85k in FD at age 30, good. i think u already  spending wisely too.
how much ur monthly instalment will be? still got 1 yr to start the paymnt.
ur other commitmends?
any plan to buy own car?
saving acc shud hv ur monthly expenses X 6. can be increase to time to time if ur monthly expenses increase.
any insurance?
any plan for ur marriege?, i think no prblem for u since already hv sufficiant amnt in FD.

at last how much u can safe montly.

spilt it by 40% in FD and 60% in unit trust. or 30%/70% since u still young.  or other saving/investment as u wish.

make user u very well undrstand abt investment and also the involve riskk too.

just my 2 cents.
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I don't agree on that, unless you have VERY BAD job security. It's a waste to have 6 mths worth of expenses sitting there earning nothing, I'd suggest put in FD or money market funds instead. wink.gif
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post Jan 15 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 15 2012, 04:31 PM)
can split the 15k into 3 FD, 1 month tenure with maturity +-10 days apart from each other. You are sort of covered just in case you need the fund urgently with money earning some interest.

this is what im doing smile.gif
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What I did last time was, I have 4 FD certs, each having a gap of 3 months from each other, e.g. Jan-12 then Apr-12 then Jul-12 then Oct-12 icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 16 2012, 01:18 PM

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in my savings account only got enough cash to sustain myself for 1.5 month wink.gif
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post Feb 4 2012, 12:08 AM

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This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 4 2012, 01:14 AM
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post Feb 4 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 4 2012, 01:18 AM)
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Wow u still replied at this hour shocking.gif notworthy.gif

1. My 18K bond funds are my "reserve", partly as "emergency fund" (I dare to take A BIT risk by putting it in MYR bonds as currently my parents still got a bit $$$ which can pay for their food and medical costs for 3-4 years. After that $$$ goes dry I'd have to cover 100% of household expenses) and partly as "reserve ammo".

2. Asset allocation - yes I'm slowly increasing my equity allocation, esp. on Emerging Markets as I'm having virtually zero exposure here. Taking it slowly cos during 2010 I got burnt badly in EM and Asia Ex-Japan funds. sweat.gif
Targeting 25%-50% of my "Investment Funds" in equity, currently it stands at about 36% I think. hmm.gif

3. My balanced fund is not really balanced, it's a conservative mixed assets fund, 70% in fixed income + 30% in equities (high yield shares + REITs). So far it's yielding me 6-7% p.a. consistently. thumbup.gif

4. Yeah, my investments are all by cash. As I believe that EPF alone is NOT sufficient to guarantee a comfortable retirement, I dun plan to withdraw my EPF, even to purchase properties/invest, I'm treating it as a safety buffer as it's legally bound to pay 4%++ annually. (am I right?) I'd do some SLIGHTLY HIGHER RISK investments by myself to supplement my EPF savings.

Thanks for the encouragement. notworthy.gif

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post Feb 4 2012, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 4 2012, 01:51 AM)
Heheh - like i said, no girls (little or big) to keep me occupied, thus i'm running a muck.

Er.. EPF doesnt guarantee 4%++ leh. It's 2.5%pa minimum - eek!
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/index.php?ch=p2faqi...ac=620&expand=1
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Anyway, it's still got the stability factor there. Probably will withdraw some to buy into high-yield blue chips in future.

U could always fork out a bit money for girls. brows.gif

Tata and goodnite Wong Seafood, thanx for the late night chat. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 5 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Feb 5 2012, 09:23 AM)
I support it... Stock INVESTING, not TRADING tongue.gif

Added on February 5, 2012, 9:28 amI just start saving RM200 monthly into bond fund... as i am worried the risk on the equity fund and it also expensive.

Any advice on the equity? Probably I can load another RM100 monthly if feasible to invest in equity. Interest with Kenanga Growth Fund... sweat.gif
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Kenanga Growth Fund's returns are crazy...wonder how they achieved it sweat.gif

I'm also not dare take on too much risk, but equity exposure is necessary to offset inflation in the long run...for the risk-averse, 1/4 of ur total investment in equity should be good enuff icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 14 2012, 02:40 PM)
Hi bros here....

need help to calculate a bit .

Is it best to take a loan to payback credit card debts ?

Loan from RHB

Borrow 4k , every month pay 378.24  for 12 months (Interest 13.38%) = 378.24 X12 = RM4538.88

The interest seems lower than the bank but am I really saving money by doing like this ?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
Thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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Personal loan to pay off credit card debt is NEVER a good idea, the effective interest rate is way higher

Keep ur CC balance, pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month is the better option icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 15 2012, 09:08 AM)
Thanks for helping  notworthy.gif
I didn't know you can count ma  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

If  :"pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month" is not an option.
So guys , meaning if I pay monthly 378.24 to my credit , the interest is lesser than the loan ?
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ASSUME u got the highest tier credit card finance charge of 18% p.a., that's 1.5% per month

4K outstanding
every month pay RM378.24 for 11 months
12th month u need only pay RM228

so, do ur own math for the savings rolleyes.gif

if ur CC finance rate is lower than 18% p.a., can save even more icon_idea.gif


Added on February 15, 2012, 11:08 am
QUOTE(beebee @ Feb 15 2012, 09:24 AM)
if you really need it try to look for those 0% balance transfer. and commit yourself to settle the balance transfer and cut your old CC to prevent from accumulating debt again
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balance transfer is a good alternative too
if combo with the method I suggested, can save even more

KEY - EVERY MONTH U MUST PAY icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 4 2012, 11:00 AM

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Yea agree with Wong SeeFood...Kenanga Growth MAY NOT sustain such rates of return for long term sweat.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(tjx3 @ Jul 4 2012, 12:24 PM)
then i shld invest this for 1 to 3 yrs?
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in addition to Wong SeeFood's reply, here's mine:

Past few years after the financial meltdown of 2008, markets all over the world were sold down badly, the malaysian market being one of the few "survivors", due to (IMHO):
- malaysian equities are well-known to be "defensive", with decent dividend yield
- strong support from institutional investors like EPF, PNB, LTAT etc who have plenty of money but are restricted from putting too much money in overseas assets

All that, made malaysian equities RELATIVELY overpriced as at now.

When economies recover, the money will flow to where the REAL growth engines are... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 4 2012, 01:27 PM)
Hey Pink. Backside itchy lar - know how to research stocks and get into Turkey's exchange ar? tongue.gif
Cost effectively lar for a non-multimillionaire  sweat.gif
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U mean Turkey equities? blink.gif

Buy Emerging Market funds lor... blush.gif
...but losses from drop in Brazillian equities, China equities, Russian equities are gonna wipe out gains from Turkey laugh.gif
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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Jul 4 2012, 06:42 PM)
wongmunkeong,

Please check the Kenanga Growth return for 2,3,5 and 10 years below:-

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYKNGGF
The average calculation for 2,3,5 and 10 turn out to be roughly 25%. Please don't say that my statement may mislead people, because the last thing that I want is to con and mislead people in their financial investment from their hard-earned money.
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In investment, the past is not an accurate indication of the future

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Added on July 4, 2012, 8:17 pmand as per wong correctly pointed out, your calculation of 25% is flawed

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jul 4 2012, 08:19 PM
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post Jul 4 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 4 2012, 08:19 PM)
eer.. dont lar Pink, batu api  sweat.gif
I didn't say his calculation is wrong.
I stated i just can't find it in the link provided  sweat.gif
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I don't side anyone, I side with reason and logic sleep.gif

he said, "Unit trust --> Kenanga Growth Fund via Fundsupermart (Average ROI about 25%/year)"

Checked on FSM website, annualised returns for 2, 3 5 and 10 years are 23.2%, 23.6%, 12.8% and 13.1% respectively, how the hell did he get 25%? shakehead.gif

That is one thing.

Another thing is, one can NEVER assume that the past is a reliable indication of the future in the world of investing.

Many sunk in China equities just because of such irresponsible marketing by UTCs/bankers. grumble.gif

That guy's writing, he sound like an FSM staff. hmm.gif
If he is, he needs a loooooooong lecture from his senior analysts/boss. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Thruster @ Jul 4 2012, 11:56 PM)
Agree on what you pointed out..... Btw.. Can u share some light what does FSM stand for.. Interested to find out the meaning smile.gif
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FSM = Fundsupermart.com

I'm a loyal FSM client myself nod.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 5 2012, 08:53 AM)
Eh - bro, one of the very few "truths" in investing:
Don't fall in love with your stocks/investment/fund house/agent tongue.gif

Loyalty doesn't run both ways in this kinda thing leh heheh.
Then again, i'm a picky b*****d  sweat.gif
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Thanks for reminding me that, I do think of that too. Now more than half of my net worth is in FSM. sweat.gif I'm thinking of putting some of my eggs in other baskets but my fav bank (formerly EON, now HLB) is rubbish. Can u imagine, all the branch's client relationship managers resigned during the merger, recently I went to the branch and asked whether I still can do my UT transactions there, and who should I look for. The answer I got...

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post Sep 23 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Sep 23 2012, 10:13 AM)
I dont know who blocked me.. but now that i can access to this forum. Previously i cant view any comment until yesterday.
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U broke some rules/offended some moderator, an "Elite" status forum member cannot suspend/ban/block ppl
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post Oct 7 2012, 06:33 PM

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20% seems quite low to me hmm.gif

Which simply means, to save 20% of one's net income = successful financial management
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post Oct 7 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Oct 7 2012, 06:37 PM)
heheh - as a benchmark lar bro.
ie. the minimum tongue.gif
MIND U, 20% of cash income, add EPF to it, yar.

The full formula from the Millionaire Next Door (doesn't include EPF coz US book mar):
Net worth should be >= Total income * Age * 10%

His other book "Stop Acting Rich: ...And Start Living Like A Real Millionaire", he uses the term Balance Sheet Affluent and has more detailed calculation, which i remember something to the effect of "20% of total lifetime's income" is the minimum to be part of that circle.

Good books - simple concepts which TV/lifeSTYLE floggers seem to go against (ie. they show millionaires spending like no tomorrow and stuff/orgy filled life).

BTW, how many % of youngsters these days U personally know that saves 20% OR have that kinda net worth, instead of spending all or more of income and/or have a negative/lower than 20% net worth?
Heck, how many 30 or 40 year olds? tongue.gif
U'd be surprised - lots of "big hat, no cattle" folks around.
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ok...simple yardsticks are always more welcomed than complicated ratios and numbers laugh.gif

and to define "success" with flash cars, posh houses and expensive vacations is...wrong. That is poison of material capitalism. Comfort is the key word, not wasteful luxury. nod.gif

Just my 1 rupiah worth of opinion tongue.gif

Added: Only myself blush.gif
a few off my friends only recently started to save (coming to 30 years old unker status already)

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 7 2012, 06:50 PM
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post Oct 7 2012, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Oct 7 2012, 06:51 PM)
Heheh - not wrong lar bro.
Different realities/perception - some folks prefer collecting -ve assets, some folks prefer +ve assets & others prefer memories (changgih overseas or if possible, over planetary travels) mar.
If everyone was frugal - die man the economy (and our investments!). Thus, shh!  brows.gif

BTW, U shd see some folks' (especially women on 1st date) reaction to my old Wira tongue.gif It helps as a great "filter" against leeches & value-destroying flers.  laugh.gif
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Wong Seafood is sifu indeed notworthy.gif

U made me change my mind about upgrading my car...old cars do have a very good "function" laugh.gif

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