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SilverfoX
post Feb 12 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(bravofeel @ Feb 11 2012, 05:27 PM)
Hello,

Need your point of view about my financial circumstances. I do't know how to progress from here to maximize my saving per month, and how can I earn more? I plan to buy more properties in future, wanna goreng property! My situation is as follows:

Age : 30

Asset (Home) : RM700,000 (Still under loan) 

Salary: RM6,000 (Net income)

Commitment:
Home loan : RM 2,100
Prepaid phone bill : RM 10
Car petrol : RM 400
Credit Card : I don't have a credit card!
Car maintenance : RM 50 (average per month)
Meal : RM 400
Accommodation : RM 100 (Maintenance fee of my Dad's condo)
MISC (incl. annual insurance) : RM 500

Saving per month : RM 2,400
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Hard to comment if we dont how much home loan is left?
Do you have other assets or saving? What is your estimated networth?

Being able to save 40% of your total income is very very good already.
You are already on the right track. Depending on our total networth, try to diversify your investments to other class of assets.

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post Feb 12 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(bravofeel @ Feb 11 2012, 05:27 PM)
Hello,

Need your point of view about my financial circumstances. I do't know how to progress from here to maximize my saving per month, and how can I earn more? I plan to buy more properties in future, wanna goreng property! My situation is as follows:

Age : 30

Asset (Home) : RM700,000 (Still under loan) 

Salary: RM6,000 (Net income)

Commitment:
Home loan : RM 2,100
Prepaid phone bill : RM 10
Car petrol : RM 400
Credit Card : I don't have a credit card!
Car maintenance : RM 50 (average per month)
Meal : RM 400
Accommodation : RM 100 (Maintenance fee of my Dad's condo)
MISC (incl. annual insurance) : RM 500

Saving per month : RM 2,400
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your house is not an asset yet ! are you living in this house or rented out ?


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post Feb 12 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(SilverfoX @ Feb 12 2012, 03:41 PM)
Hard to comment if we dont how much home loan is left?
Do you have other assets or saving? What is your estimated networth?

Being able to save 40% of your total income is very very good already.
You are already on the right track. Depending on our total networth, try to diversify your investments to other class of assets.
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Home loan about RM 450,000 left! :-( I have paid about RM 250,000 to this date.

I don't have other assets or saving. I use my Dad's car. cry.gif


Added on February 12, 2012, 3:54 pm
QUOTE(cscheat @ Feb 12 2012, 03:46 PM)
your house is not an asset yet ! are you living in this house or rented out ?
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Feb 11 2012, 07:58 PM)
Is your home worth RM700k on the current market or is that your loan amount? Let's not consider it an asset until you decide to sell it. Until then it would be still considered one of your liabilities (servicable loan, maintenance, utilities etc.) if you intend to stay in it.

I see you've paid off your car since there isn't any car loan. Good!

I assume your home is not ready yet? Seems not to have any utilities bill in your commitments. Nor do I see any parent's allowance which would mean your parents are well off on their own. Good for them.

There is no mention on your current savings or investments. I assume your home is your only 'investment' as of now. If you don't have any emergency savings, please start one (minimum 6 months of expenses ++). Should be achievable very fast at your current spare cash excess.

No credit card is good!

No mention of future planning like getting married, having kids or any home renovation, if you do have plan for it, save up a sum for it.

While with RM2.4k/month savings as spare cash, it would be best you settle a sum for emergencies. Try not to overburden yourself with additional loans until your emergency/ future plans savings are up and ready.

Seems like you have a well managed budget currently.
- You don't have any additional loans other than your home loan which is 30% of your net pay.
- You got no credit card balance to settle
- You've a paid off car
- Your family commitments are minimum

Next step is to save up your war chest for future investments, be it either properties, stocks, funds etc.
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Yes, home is my only 'investment'. I paid RM200,00++ in lump sum on my home, leaving all other investment has to be channeled to the home. The reason is that, if my monthly commitment to my current home loan is high, it might not be possible for me to get another property, so I decided to pay in lump sum RM 200,000++, though I'm not sure if I had made the right move considering that I have no plan to spend money on car/marriage in the near future.

This post has been edited by bravofeel: Feb 12 2012, 03:58 PM
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post Feb 12 2012, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(bravofeel @ Feb 12 2012, 03:52 PM)
Home loan about RM 450,000 left! :-( I have paid about RM 250,000 to this date.

I don't have other assets or saving. I use my Dad's car. cry.gif
Then like what other said, you should start saving some emergency cash ie 6-12months worth of living cost. This is to survive any unforeseen circumstances. Like if you lose your job tomorrow, would ou still be able to pay your mortgage and feed yourself when you are looking for new job.

Save enough of emergency fund before you start goreng-ing property.
Life is full of surprises, but not all of them are pleasant. Unfortunately.
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post Feb 14 2012, 02:40 PM

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Hi bros here....

need help to calculate a bit .

Is it best to take a loan to payback credit card debts ?

Loan from RHB

Borrow 4k , every month pay 378.24 for 12 months (Interest 13.38%) = 378.24 X12 = RM4538.88

The interest seems lower than the bank but am I really saving money by doing like this ? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif


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post Feb 14 2012, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 14 2012, 02:40 PM)
Hi bros here....

need help to calculate a bit .

Is it best to take a loan to payback credit card debts ?

Loan from RHB

Borrow 4k , every month pay 378.24  for 12 months (Interest 13.38%) = 378.24 X12 = RM4538.88

The interest seems lower than the bank but am I really saving money by doing like this ?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
Thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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Whoa.. effective rate of interest is about 26.98%pa (if the sample used is correct)? U sure that's LESS that yr credit card? Looks similar to credit card charges.

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Feb 14 2012, 06:55 PM
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 14 2012, 02:40 PM)
Hi bros here....

need help to calculate a bit .

Is it best to take a loan to payback credit card debts ?

Loan from RHB

Borrow 4k , every month pay 378.24  for 12 months (Interest 13.38%) = 378.24 X12 = RM4538.88

The interest seems lower than the bank but am I really saving money by doing like this ?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
Thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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got a partly qualified accountant in GGC u dun ask doh.gif

Personal loan to pay off credit card debt is NEVER a good idea, the effective interest rate is way higher

Keep ur CC balance, pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month is the better option icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 03:04 AM

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Please help this student in completing his final year research, your contribution by participating in this research will be deeply appreciated, god bless you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewfor...YZmFuQUJnZEE6MQ
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post Feb 15 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 14 2012, 06:53 PM)
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Whoa.. effective rate of interest is about 26.98%pa (if the sample used is correct)? U sure that's LESS that yr credit card? Looks similar to credit card charges.
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Thanks for helping notworthy.gif


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 15 2012, 12:11 AM)
got a partly qualified accountant in GGC u dun ask doh.gif

Personal loan to pay off credit card debt is NEVER a good idea, the effective interest rate is way higher

Keep ur CC balance, pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month is the better option icon_rolleyes.gif
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I didn't know you can count ma tongue.gif tongue.gif

If :"pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month" is not an option.


So guys , meaning if I pay monthly 378.24 to my credit , the interest is lesser than the loan ?
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post Feb 15 2012, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 15 2012, 09:08 AM)
Thanks for helping  notworthy.gif
I didn't know you can count ma  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

If  :"pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month" is not an option.
So guys , meaning if I pay monthly 378.24 to my credit , the interest is lesser than the loan ?
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if you really need it try to look for those 0% balance transfer. and commit yourself to settle the balance transfer and cut your old CC to prevent from accumulating debt again
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 15 2012, 09:08 AM)
Thanks for helping  notworthy.gif
I didn't know you can count ma  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

If  :"pay AS MUCH AS U CAN every month" is not an option.
So guys , meaning if I pay monthly 378.24 to my credit , the interest is lesser than the loan ?
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ASSUME u got the highest tier credit card finance charge of 18% p.a., that's 1.5% per month

4K outstanding
every month pay RM378.24 for 11 months
12th month u need only pay RM228

so, do ur own math for the savings rolleyes.gif

if ur CC finance rate is lower than 18% p.a., can save even more icon_idea.gif


Added on February 15, 2012, 11:08 am
QUOTE(beebee @ Feb 15 2012, 09:24 AM)
if you really need it try to look for those 0% balance transfer. and commit yourself to settle the balance transfer and cut your old CC to prevent from accumulating debt again
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balance transfer is a good alternative too
if combo with the method I suggested, can save even more

KEY - EVERY MONTH U MUST PAY icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 15 2012, 11:09 AM
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post Feb 16 2012, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(berry & lemon @ Feb 11 2012, 11:49 AM)
Just wonder why you make your commitment so high?
Try to cut down your commitment.
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post Feb 17 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 29 2010, 04:51 AM)
It is impossible to have any investment that can earn you Rm800 per month consistently with a 5K capital.

For forex issue, please read this.
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=14&ac=1976
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Dude, don't say its impossible when people are doing it. It may be because people have learnt the strategy of high frequency cut-off and compounding, while matching it with sufficient hedging.

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post Feb 17 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Sachs.Goldman @ Feb 17 2012, 05:29 PM)
Dude, don't say its impossible when people are doing it. It may be because people have learnt the strategy of high frequency cut-off and compounding, while matching it with sufficient hedging.
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You replied to a 1 1/2 year old post. FYI. smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 03:43 PM

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Hi guys, really need some advice here...
Currently 23yo, working as wedding videographer in a bridal shop but will take freelance job too
Earning between RM2.5-RM5k depending on months (Nov-Dec usually highest)
With such unstable income i find it very hard to cope with my expenses...

Fixed
RENT: RM340
BILLS: RM80
INSURANCE: RM160
MOM: RM300
CAMCORDER INSTALLMENT: RM500
Touch n Go: RM150

Variable
Food: RM400
Transport: RM400
Groceries: RM400
Phone: RM120
Pets: RM20 (Feeder crickets)
Others: RM200

Currently living with gf, we buy groceries once a week and cook our own dinner, usually i only spend on food for my lunch or yumcha session and some snacks...
Was actually planning to save RM1k per month but this seems impossible unless i got freelance job on that particular month or if my salary have more than RM4k
Need some advice on how to reduce my expenses...
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 18 2012, 03:43 PM)
Hi guys, really need some advice here...
Currently 23yo, working as wedding videographer in a bridal shop but will take freelance job too
Earning between RM2.5-RM5k depending on months (Nov-Dec usually highest)
With such unstable income i find it very hard to cope with my expenses...

Fixed
RENT: RM340
BILLS: RM80
INSURANCE: RM160
MOM: RM300
CAMCORDER INSTALLMENT: RM500
Touch n Go: RM150

Variable
Food: RM400
Transport: RM400
Groceries: RM400
Phone: RM120
Pets: RM20 (Feeder crickets)
Others: RM200

Currently living with gf, we buy groceries once a week and cook our own dinner, usually i only spend on food for my lunch or yumcha session and some snacks...
Was actually planning to save RM1k per month but this seems impossible unless i got freelance job on that particular month or if my salary have more than RM4k
Need some advice on how to reduce my expenses...
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Being a videographer means you tend to travel a lot for functions. So I guess transportation and TnG is un-avoidable. But make sure you claim your 20% rebate for TnG if you travel often.

You have both food at RM 400 and also groceries at RM400. I assume groceries include for your GF as well. You can opt to spend less here by buying less of those expensive groceries if there are any.

Others at RM200 I assume for other in-frequent activities or groceries or maintenance.

How many months before you finish paying for your camcorder? RM500 seems to be the biggest fixed cost and from your info, is used for freelance work. If your freelance work is more during a particular month, try to pay off this item as the work you are doing is directly connected to this fixed cost. Similar to freelance work costing you your transport and TnG allowances. Try and budget and price your freelance work to these costs and see if it is actually paying enough/worth the effort.

Your basic pay from your regular job is the limit you should use to manage your expenses. If you depend on your freelance/part-time job to manage your expenses then it will only cause you head-ache as it is not constant. So if you earn RM2.5k month from your consistent salary, your expenses should not exceed this! Your part time job should be helping you, not adding to your costs of living. (RM500/month camcorder)

Your freelance work for the entire year should be ideally covering your costs of paying the camcorder and travelling expenses every month. RM500/month means RM6k per year. Your freelance work is earning you how much per year? Is it covering your costs of your equipment and transportation costs? Are you making a loss/profit in this business? Your equipment as a professional videographer should cost at least RM10k, so I assume you are paying for this RM500/month.

This post has been edited by skiddtrader: Feb 18 2012, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Feb 18 2012, 09:18 PM)
Being a videographer means you tend to travel a lot for functions. So I guess transportation and TnG is un-avoidable. But make sure you claim your 20% rebate for TnG if you travel often.

You have both food at RM 400 and also groceries at RM400. I assume groceries include for your GF as well. You can opt to spend less here by buying less of those expensive groceries if there are any.

Others at RM200 I assume for other in-frequent activities or groceries or maintenance.

How many months before you finish paying for your camcorder? RM500 seems to be the biggest fixed cost and from your info, is used for freelance work. If your freelance work is more during a particular month, try to pay off this item as the work you are doing is directly connected to this fixed cost. Similar to freelance work costing you your transport and TnG allowances. Try and budget and price your freelance work to these costs and see if it is actually paying enough/worth the effort.

Your basic pay from your regular job is the limit you should use to manage your expenses. If you depend on your freelance/part-time job to manage your expenses then it will only cause you head-ache as it is not constant. So if you earn RM2.5k month from your consistent salary, your expenses should not exceed this! Your part time job should be helping you, not adding to your costs of living. (RM500/month camcorder)

Your freelance work for the entire year should be ideally covering your costs of paying the camcorder and travelling expenses every month. RM500/month means RM6k per year. Your freelance work is earning you how much per year? Is it covering your costs of your equipment and transportation costs? Are you making a loss/profit in this business? Your equipment as a professional videographer should cost at least RM10k, so I assume you are paying for this RM500/month.
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Hmm im using monthly integrated touch and go, can rebate 20%???
Yup, u are right, groceries are for the both of us, i usually spend on my lunch and yumcha session too
others are random expenses like cutting hair, buying new clothes, hardwares, entertainments etc
My camcorder installment still got 4months (RM2k) left, actually im paying it to my mom because she borrow the money from her boss
My basic pay is only RM1.6 while my fixed expenses are already RM1530... If i were to manage my expenses based on it i wont have enuff for my meal and groceries...
I just started my freelance job so i dont have much job yet but so far so good, its more than enough to cover my cam installment + transportation
Actually i was thinking to use my income in my work for my expenses and save up all the money i earn from my freelance to buy a house (Aiming to save 10k per year, save 30k and get a decent 150k-200k house)
Not planning to get car anytime soon
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 19 2012, 01:21 PM)
Hmm im using monthly integrated touch and go, can rebate 20%???
Yup, u are right, groceries are for the both of us, i usually spend on my lunch and yumcha session too
others are random expenses like cutting hair, buying new clothes, hardwares, entertainments etc
My camcorder installment still got 4months (RM2k) left, actually im paying it to my mom because she borrow the money from her boss
My basic pay is only RM1.6 while my fixed expenses are already RM1530... If i were to manage my expenses based on it i wont have enuff for my meal and groceries...
I just started my freelance job so i dont have much job yet but so far so good, its more than enough to cover my cam installment + transportation
Actually i was thinking to use my income in my work for my expenses and save up all the money i earn from my freelance to buy a house (Aiming to save 10k per year, save 30k and get a decent 150k-200k house)
Not planning to get car anytime soon
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I don't understand what is integrated TnG? AS far as I know, if you use more than 80 times a month on tolls, you can get a 20% rebate. The rebate will be credited back to your TnG card.

If your camcorder got 4 months left, you should be able to see some improvement in savings soon. Using your earnings from the freelance job and saving it is a good idea provided you have enough to cover your expenses.

Basically you need to cut down on expenses somehow, either by eating less, yumcha less, buy clothes less etc. Some adjustment needs lifestyle changes. For example some people like to get a RM30 haircut every month, a lifestyle change will mean you find a cheap barber and cut it for RM10 instead of a fancy saloon. Instead of yumcha in Oldtime, go yumcha is small mamak shop etc. This options make you look cheap but this is up to you how much you want to sacrifice to save. Some people got no social life and save a lot. Some people don't go dating instead watch TV at home. Some people just stop spending all together.

Next you need to increase your earnings either by charging more for your freelance by providing more options in your packages. Do overtime if there is in your normal work. Try to find other customers or network with other videographers for opportunities in big events like corporate events for your freelance work.

It's hard to grow income from investments if you got not much savings to begin with, so I would suggest you save up first before going for next step in wealth generation.

Your HP account if possible try to get a main line and sub-line to reduce costs and sharing of credit.

Your best way of reducing costs is to know how much you incur costs in the first place. So start a excel file of a 555 book to note down EVERY expense you incur. Including daily toll, yumcha, buy newspaper, petrol etc. This is tedious at first but when you see how much you actually spend in a day it will surprise you, then you can then try to reduce it. For example, I used to spend up to RM40 a day on average. I started reducing slowly and manage to get the lowest at RM25/day on average over a month. Your phone bill can show you how much costs you incur in a daily phonecall/sms etc

Good luck! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi I am looking at this saving plan from MCIS Zurich and would like seek advice from SiFu here whether it's a good plan to go for retirement ?

Also another concern is I read that Swiss Zurich is opting to exit MCIS Zurich Malaysia as they have purchased MAA and our Bank Negara rules one company cannot hold 2 insurance company. Not sure will there be any impact if I invest on this plan. It's a long term plan. (as attached)

Thanks in advance.

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hi Guys, I'm 26, I want focus on building my own investment portfolio. I've just finished servicing my sins (unsecured debts) with savings of 5000 on bank and monthly 1400, from my 3500 net income, no house and car commitment, my aim is

1. saving up for a high rise property worth 300-350k (down payment of 35k?), or option landed property 400-450k (down payment of 50k)
2. fund for marriage 30k?
3. any online or books for building investment portfolio with different vehicle (beginner)
4. How long can i reach my goal No.1 No.2. what kind of action should i take now?


thanks in advance for all your guidance =)

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