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post Mar 12 2013, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:08 PM)
I know. My point is whose $$. sweat.gif
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My boss pay for it, then claim back from company.
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(kenji26 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:27 PM)
Hahaha. Bro, the expenses I am referring to is petrol and parking expenses.  biggrin.gif  As for the food, no worries I am a super big fan of nasi campur, considering the amount of food I eat. Though pretty skinny, I get hungry easily very easily so "chap-fan" is sure economical to me. (Add chicken, meat and plenty of side dishes only around RM10). Plus breakfast, supper and late supper I should be cooking at home, so little expenses are involved.  thumbup.gif But thanks for the budget, our thinking are alike !  icon_rolleyes.gif

But now I am interested on the investment I could make with my RM 3600 a year savings. Of course the yearly savings will increase as the year passes.  Otherwise, could only dump it sadly in FD and wait for 5 years where my salary is enough to safely support a property investment (in case no tenant could be found) or when gold/silver hype is back again. So looking for all the finance experts out here to give me a small guide.  notworthy.gif
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Unit trust for sure. With RM300 a month, share investments is out of the question for the time being.

A few years ago when my salary is similar as yours, I started investing in unit trusts. Pick a good balanced fund, and religiously pump in money every month come rain or shine. Years later, u will begin to see the fruits. Unit trusts won't make u rich overnight, but they're a good vehicle for long-term wealth accumulation.
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(kenji26 @ Mar 12 2013, 09:01 PM)
As long I am in audit line, share investments is out for me.  tongue.gif

Alright, thanks for the info ! Will definitely take a serious look into it.  notworthy.gif Any good websites, forums or books for me to build an adequate knowledge regarding unit trusts in Malaysia? Spend my past 3 years in university reading about shares and real property during free time, but not UT and Forex, unfortunately.  doh.gif  So will need info and much reading before deciding on my portfolios, investment strategy and risk appetite.  biggrin.gif Hope you could provide some guide, since I believe you have much experience in UT. Terima kasih~  biggrin.gif
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Do drop by at the Fundsupermart.com thread icon_rolleyes.gif

If u understand shares, UTs would be peanuts to u
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(kenji26 @ Mar 12 2013, 09:12 PM)
Thanks~ !! Like what I see in the website. Going to start investing in 3 months time after gaining enough knowledge. Thanks sifu !  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Me no sifu, I'm just an amateur who likes to write a lot of rubbish on LYN tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 12 2013, 09:28 PM)
Kenji-san, anoneh - never say never (for shares/stocks).
Try ETFs - they are baskets of stocks, thus similar concept to Mutual Funds BUT liquidity as per stocks (ie. via bids vs offers) and listed as per stocks.
local listed ETFs = CIMC25 for China largest 25 cap stocks, CIMBA40 for ASEAN 40 largest cap stock (methinks), etc.
plenty others in SGX and NYSE (but U need larger capital to hit "Economic Order Quantity")

ETFs have lower cost of purchase (sales charges VS brokerage & stamping) & holding (yearly mgt fees and stuff)
HOWEVER, not as liquid as Mutual Funds where Fund Houses buys back at NAV (ETFs sold off via bid vs offers as per stocks, thus if no meeting of price....)
+ need to save up to about $2.8K before worthwhile executing a buy (local stocks's EOQ cost, approximately 0.42% to 0.5% of value)

Just a thought  notworthy.gif
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Wong Seafood, let me add some...

Online brokers like Jupiter Securities' min. brokerage is only RM10. If compare to mutual fund Sales Charge (let's take FSM Sales Charge as comparison) of 2%...

RM10 / 0.02 = RM500 and above already worthwhile biggrin.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 12 2013, 09:40 PM)
eh? Jupiter has no more minimum $X or 0.XX% whichever higher now?
or just for special time-period or must hit certain amount of trades?
Interesting neh biggrin.gif
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New accounts get promotional min. brokerage of RM8 for a certain period of time (back then in 2010 when I newly opened mine, now dunno still got this promo or not), "normal" min. brokerage is higher of RM10 or 0.05% per trade for cash upfront accountholder.

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post Mar 13 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 13 2013, 09:48 AM)
HI PINK SPIDER,
  Are you refering stock broker fee?
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Yes. Stock trading got 3 different expenses:
(1) Brokerage commission
(2) Stamp duty
(3) Clearing fee

Jupiter charges RM10 or 0.05% per trade for (1), whichever is higher.
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post Mar 13 2013, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 13 2013, 07:28 AM)
Gomenasai - i thought stocks was a prob bcoz of the "individual company's data" that U may have access to,
unlike ETFs which are literally "basket cases of stocks", similar to UTs,
thereby bypassing that donkey ruling biggrin.gif

Interesting, thanks for sharing on the auditor's need to report their own shares held, even ETFs  notworthy.gif
<plans to discourage my children from being in such stifling positions are a brewing tongue.gif>
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Don't think got restriction for ETF.

Else, pig dog cat also cannot work as auditors, cos EPF got investments in so many stocks laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 13 2013, 09:52 AM)
nod.gif  nod.gif Ok, thanks  nod.gif  notworthy.gif
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U pakai which broker? hmm.gif

Don't tell me u pay RM40 per deal sweat.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 10:20 AM

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CC debt for sure, Personal Loan interest is already calculated upfront.
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post Mar 13 2013, 10:43 AM

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Effective interest rate for a 2-year 4% PL is 7.5%. The longer the tenure, the higher the effective rate is.
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post Mar 14 2013, 11:36 AM

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Well, that method has its merits, but not optimal.

If u have access to accounts that yield attractive interests, it's best to keep your money in that account and only take out to pay when your CC bill is due.

Discipline/control yourself by maintaining an MS Excel worksheet to control your spendings, once it's near zero (money in bank MINUS CC amounts swiped), u know it's time to stop biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(GymBoi @ Mar 14 2013, 11:48 AM)
Hmm .. i got something to say hope dun kena bash lol .... I don't know what's the point of putting cash into a box? or keeping excel to keep track of CC spending and all .. UNLESS this dude is really spending for fun ... so dun tell me if money in bank is way more than CC swiped then you can go crazy swiping your card buying LV and things ? haha ..

You know what you're spending on and it's all about self control? For me I'm really thankful for the existence of CC because there was once my car gearbox suddenly break down and I really have no emergency funds ... so if my money in bank is not enuff .. are u saying i shouldn't swipe my CC then ? What will happen to my car then lol ... I still had to do it ... then I call Maybank to convert to 12 months payment then kena charge some interest ... I guess that's better than the interest kena if I don't pay the balance at the end of the month =/

I guess if a person has no self control by itself ... he/she will probably have no heart to keep track of the cash "piggybank" or the spreadsheet haha ... so i guess CC is not ALWAYS bad ... just how you use it ..
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+100 rclxms.gif

If got discipline, no need track at all. If no discipline, track also no use, cos won't follow also laugh.gif

Kesimpulannya - For ppl with no financial discipline, better dun apply CC at all sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cloudlhs @ Mar 17 2013, 05:45 PM)
Sorry for interrupt. I know property investment is the best way to earn money. But dont you think with little money how to invest in property?
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+100

If you don't even have the money to pay as downpayment and monthly cash flow to pay for the instalment, how to buy a property?

Furthermore, on a moral standpoint, it is wrong to invest in properties. People need homes to live in, as a shelter, while those people with excess wealth are growing their already abundant wealth further by speculating and pumping up property prices.
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post Mar 25 2013, 02:09 PM

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Self-customised Excel sheet is the best, u can customise it to suit the detail/complexity that u require. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Mar 29 2013, 10:19 AM)
He really motivated me again smile.gif last few years I was very hardworking in blogging for side income, almost spent all my time after work sitting in front of PC but last year end started lazy, so side income drops so much... sweat.gif I shld start hardworking again to earn more money  icon_rolleyes.gif
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What u blog on? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cynthusc @ Mar 30 2013, 09:49 AM)
Something to think about:
If your income is below RM1600:

Buy a low cost apartment in a desirable area. Eg. one that I saw recently is at USJ 1 at a reserve price of RM60K. 3 rooms at 657 sq feet. Assuming you bid and win at RM68K. Your cost is
RM68K for the price + RM1800 (Stamp Duty and Legal Fees) + RM1K for outstanding charges + RM4K for light renovation. So total cost is RM74,800.00.
Rental RM600. If the area is Wangsa Maju or Melati or anywhere near an LRT station, the rental can even go up to RM800

Rental/property price = 6K/74800 = 8% return. 
BTW this property's current market price is RM80-RM90K so when the purchaser buys it, they already make RM10K

So the possible return in 5 years:
(RM6K x 5 years) + RM10K current market price difference + RM10K future appreciation
=RM50K return on RM74800
= 66.84 for 5 years i.e. 13% per annum

BTW your RM50K appreciation for a 188K is IMO too optimistic base on current market trends. Perhaps more like a 25K appreciation.

I have done this sort of investment before but on higher end properties and larger current market price difference. In fact there was one property I bought which was RM80K below market.
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Off-topic a while, how do u calculate stamp duty? Becos I'm inheriting my mum's share (50% share) of my home, I need to arrange to transfer ownership to my name now. Market value about 250-300K now, its a condom

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QUOTE(cynthusc @ Mar 30 2013, 10:49 AM)
Did you inherit via her passing i.e through a will?  If the will states that the 50% share goes to you then the stamp duty is RM10 regardless of value.  Only if it is transferred to a third party not part of the will, will it invite stamp duty.

Generally stamp duty is calculated as follows:-
1st 100K is 1%
Next 400K is 2% and
balance thereafter is 3%. So if the property is 600K, the stamp duty is:

100K is 1% = RM1K
400K is 2% = RM8K
and balance 100K is 3% = RM3K

Total is RM1K + RM8K + RM3K = RM12K
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Ya, got a lawyer-written will.

So, only RM10? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Maximillian88 @ Apr 1 2013, 02:24 PM)
Hi all, a hypothetical question here.

Just wondering, is there any way for a salary-earner (RM60,000 per annum) to be able to move from being a low-medium income earner to a high-networth individual? I'm 26years old and I've seen how the wealthy live and its really sickening. Apparently I just found out that being wealthy and rich are 2 completely different things.

Its like they send their kids to high-end international schools, the type whereby the kids have to fly all the way to Germany as part of their history education (I also just found out that there are different classes of international schools too). I was told too that their monthly expenditure easily exceeds RM100,000 per month.

Are low-income and middle-income people kinda doomed?
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on one hand u say that "its really sickening", on the other hand u wanna be like them shakehead.gif
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Felix, broadband also tarak???

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