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post Apr 6 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 6 2013, 02:00 PM)
If he wanna marry then still rent ler? u not pity him? how can be a dad let his son like that.
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methinks.. that's how children are spoilt silly shakehead.gif
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post Apr 6 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 6 2013, 02:28 PM)
Easy to say than to put them into practices.........

In KL there are many safety and security problems...........then sometimes u think u have to give way .  in order  for your children  to stay in a safety zone.

A few months ago , one father  wanted the child to be independent by taking a taxi back, next thing the father cannot find/locate  the child till today.
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er.. true but yr example of a CHILD Vs a MAN MARRYING is a bit too different right?
A man marrying is supposed to be a provider, protector & guide to his new family unit right? Buy him a house?
If he was a real man - i'd think he'll take that as a kick in the nuts leh - as if he still needs such things from his parents.
Then again... (not accepting handouts) maybe that's why i'm not filthy rich up to now lar heheh doh.gif

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post Apr 26 2013, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(wu ming @ Apr 26 2013, 08:26 AM)
Everybody doesn't seem to understand the term investment where there is a 50% 50% chance of losing it if you f'up. Majority will loose it.
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somebody doesn't seem to understand the term investment, where probabilities can be 60%win 40%lose, or even better odds due to asset allocation control + filtering for good businesses/properties + buying at a good value notworthy.gif
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post Jun 3 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 3 2013, 05:03 PM)
Classic case of over-leverage. Even though the income look wonderful, any hiccup will send the whole plan koyak sweat.gif
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Maybe not "over leveraged" wor if his "Dividends (Business): RM35000/month (average)" comes in like clockwork or that amount is a prudent % of his average takings, ie. viewed in terms of (debt payment / income)

However, his D/E i think is waaaaaay over 1 tongue.gif
This "over leverage" U mean?
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post Jul 26 2013, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(AskChong @ Jul 26 2013, 07:51 PM)
You sure you can get coverage when you want to buy?

Think about it, no need to wait till 60, when you are old and sick, co don't want you, insurance co also don't want you, how?
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Well, IMHO, it depends - if our bro keeps saving & investing, hits multi-millionaire by mid 30s or 40s, U still think he NEEDs any insurances to cover medical, critical illness, disability or death by then?

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post Jul 28 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(GymBoi @ Jul 28 2013, 04:42 PM)
Hi guys ... got a quick question ... let's say for example I have 50k in my bank FD getting 3% return pa

I plan to buy a car ... the loan I can get is 2.5% interest ...

Which is a better move:

1) Borrow as much money as possible for the car since my 50k sitting in FD is more "worth it"
2) Take out 50k for the car down payment and borrow the minimum amount of money

Sounds like a simple question but i don't think the calculation is so simple? Or I think too much?
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GymBoi, car loans are usually calculated "flat"
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FD and other investments, calculated at per annum compounded basis

"Flat" rate:
Interest: 2.5% *loan amount * years of loan
Then this interest is added to the loan amount and divided by number of months of the loan

Per annum compounded basis or AKA "reducing balance" if loan:
Interest: %/12mths * amount still owed on that month

Bottom line: Usually "flat rate" is about the equivalent of 2x to get reducing balance.
ie. your 2.5% flat rate should be about 5%pa compounded.
Thus, your FD is NOT making more than what U are paying in car loan interest.

er.. the above would be clearer with pen/paper or Excel (i'm too lazy these days) notworthy.gif
hope it's clear enough for U to think it through

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post Jul 28 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(GymBoi @ Jul 28 2013, 05:40 PM)
Thanks  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif

edit: oh ya ... are the interest rates for housing "flat" like this too ?
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Housing loans are based on "reducing balance", not flat (or those that i've checked out lar, who knows there may be some weird lender around tongue.gif).
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post Jul 28 2013, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ Jul 28 2013, 06:29 PM)
any sifu here to share on the calculation for housing loan ineterest?
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If Excel is your game, take a look at the Excel in the ZIP file: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1577849/+697
Look for worksheet "MODDED Brian Goh's MortCalc"
A version i modded from my buddy, Brian Goh.
Just enter the data in the YELLOW CELLS to see the results (payment per month, pay till when, etc)

Note - use at your own risk yadda yadda yadda
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 29 2013, 08:42 PM)
PLEASE DON'T SELL.

Don't say bout need or no need or what need need need

house is assets, house is property. house is your future, and somemore you are non bumiputera. Houses are getting expensive nowadays. Can you assure you can buy back on the other day? Smaller or bigger ? NO?

More house is better, as you can pass down to your children, you don't tell me you don't want have children? this can make your children life better.

Hold the house, cut down other expenses.....
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I'd say it depends...

If cannot handle the cost, die die hold the house?
Children may not even want to live there
AND - if one can't even manage oneself's current financial situation, how lar to pass on to children?

It depends lor - should not die die "hold" if one can't handle it.. until repossessed / bank lelong meh?

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post Sep 9 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2013, 02:23 PM)
Eh, NEVER use mutual funds to park your EMERGENCY RESERVES, excess cash maybe yes, but hell no for your cash reserves. Some well-proven low-risk funds (EVEN BOND FUNDS) have been hit in recent times, giving negative returns. sweat.gif

If mutual funds that invest/deposit in money market products like REPOs and short maturity bonds (look at AmIncome Plus, OSK-UOB Money Market Fund, OSK-UOB Cash Management Fund) still okay. nod.gif
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Pink stated it.. i missed it.

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post Sep 9 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2013, 03:27 PM)
oi Unker Wong, sudah minum kopi belum? Ataupun u nak nikotin laugh.gif
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coffee tongkat ali +hot kuci mamas (nicole tynn) tongue.gif

Eh - on serious note, personally even short term bond funds... i'd think not lor
unless one is crazed with 1 year's living expenses in emergency fund, then can 50% FD/Money Market, 50% short term bond funds
else.. bond funds a bit more dangerous than FD lor - $250K insured per person per bank wor

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