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chelsea2013
post Aug 1 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(lozenges @ Aug 1 2013, 02:45 PM)
Hi guy,

I am wondering whether my gf and i are ready to start a family and buy a house as our current situation is as below....

Income of 2 ppl: ~ 5 k
Rental plus utilities: 500 per month
Petrol + touch n go : 130
Phone: Using prepaid top up 10 per mth
Parent: 0 per month as still studying so parent said tak payah bagi
Makan: 700 per mth
Medical: 300 per mth (gf facial)

Ptptn hutang: 28k (repay around 2-2.5k) and gf free ptptn
Debt for car n house: non
Saving: ~ 150k

Hopefully after graduation (estimated to be mid of nx year) can double the current salary.

Do u think we are ready to buy a house around 300-400k?
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ya....with such a low monthly expenses and also 150k in saving, you are certainly ready to buy a house. unfortunately, its vy hard for you to get a property at the range of 300-400k nowadays.
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post Aug 1 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Jul 31 2013, 12:52 AM)
Hmmm...I'm back 33 yrs old oledi..

PKR won Penang state ..Seems like PR1MA not happening.... Scrap oledi

Saw a good new condo selling RM379 per sqft...Quite good..since most project new condo average RM450-500 per sqft

Thus I grab oledi...RM550K.. 1330sqft

Loan from bank RM300K, roughly RM1400 repayment monthly, 35 yrs loan..

Thinking when it finish built up in 2016, move over to stay since it is bigger unit..can see Penang 2nd bridge...

Rent out current condo RM1300-1400 to pay the installment RM1400 per month...

Ok ok the plan? Any suggestion? in terms I can gain more in financially? Prefer to live without liabilities if possible...smile.gif
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Yo bro! Manage to find such a cheap condo in island?

Would you mind to share the condo's name?

RM 379/sqft is reasonable in Penang Island in my opinion.

Instead of dumping RM 250k as downpayment, why dont you just dump in minimum deposit and invest in 2nd unit.
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post Aug 1 2013, 10:27 PM

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alliance personal loan is offering the lowest for rate right?? 7.88% pa if loan repayment between 3 years
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post Aug 1 2013, 10:34 PM

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Interest Rate :
9.88% per annum (flat rate). (Effective Interest Rate: 17.09% per annum based on 5 Years loan tenure)


icon_question.gif hi.... i dont understand... what is the different between the flat rate 9.99% and the effective interest rate 17.09%...
the banks always make us confused... rclxub.gif
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post Aug 1 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Aug 1 2013, 03:39 PM)
Like your thinking - everyone BBB because everyone else is buying rolleyes.gif

We might end up with alot of properties which are empty soon because everyone is buying.
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Property is one of the main ways to build wealth.

Those who bought pre-2009 would have laughed all the way to the bank.
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post Aug 1 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(playa @ Aug 1 2013, 10:26 PM)
Yo bro! Manage to find such a cheap condo in island?

Would you mind to share the condo's name?

RM 379/sqft is reasonable in Penang Island in my opinion.

Instead of dumping RM 250k as downpayment, why dont you just dump in minimum deposit and invest in 2nd unit.
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tak ada baca news ka? where got gold to grab also dunno...

Cheah highlighted that Platinum III is competitively priced between RM360 and RM380 psf, which compared to other projects around the area going for RM500 psf onwards, makes it a good choice.

As an added incentive, the developer will also absorb legal fees for both the Sales and Purchase Agreements and Loan Legal Fees for a limited promotional period.


http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...-to-be-popular/

On the RM200mil Platinum III condominium scheme in Teluk Kumbar, Cheah said the project, comprising 357 units with built-up areas of 1,230sq ft and 1,330sq ft, was priced at RM380 per sq ft.

http://www.tppt.com.my

http://www.propertytalk.com.my/project/pen...3/platinum3.htm

Ppl comment buy/no buy can read here..
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/tra...EjqDRHzzF4tugWg

yo bro we are taking half a million dollar property here, invest 2 unit need more than a million...Look at my salary where can get approve? Which bank want to loan me RM850K?

This post has been edited by AAAABBBB: Aug 1 2013, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Aug 1 2013, 11:25 PM)
Property is one of the main ways to build wealth.

Those who bought pre-2009 would have laughed all the way to the bank.
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It SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN at the first place.
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post Aug 2 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Jul 31 2013, 12:52 AM)
Hmmm...I'm back 33 yrs old oledi..

PKR won Penang state ..Seems like PR1MA not happening.... Scrap oledi

Saw a good new condo selling RM379 per sqft...Quite good..since most project new condo average RM450-500 per sqft

Thus I grab oledi...RM550K.. 1330sqft

Loan from bank RM300K, roughly RM1400 repayment monthly, 35 yrs loan..

Thinking when it finish built up in 2016, move over to stay since it is bigger unit..can see Penang 2nd bridge...

Rent out current condo RM1300-1400 to pay the installment RM1400 per month...

Ok ok the plan? Any suggestion? in terms I can gain more in financially? Prefer to live without liabilities if possible...smile.gif
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wah DP 250k thumbup.gif I also just took a mortgage of about 300K recently. your current condo is fully paid up?

QUOTE(iStevei @ Jul 31 2013, 09:28 AM)
End of this year, i'll be free of debt after finish paying my car loan by end of this year. Just settled my study loan few days ago.

Currently, looking for a hse! i'll be in debt again soon.  rclxub.gif

Envy those who able to settle study loan, car and hse loan all together  notworthy.gif
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that's why last time i opt to study for my degree part-time, and they still offer PTPTN for part-timers. I die die also pay up myself. really cham that time, low pay because qualification is only STPM and ride motor only. But it's worth it that now i'm roaming around freely without the RM200/mth for 15yrs rclxub.gif
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post Aug 2 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Aug 2 2013, 03:54 AM)
Savings...of 150k...u guys still studying...but still accumulate 150k... hmm.gif  total income 2.5k + 2.5k , can save 150k in ur twenties pls la..
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post Aug 2 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(DeOmen @ Jul 30 2013, 02:03 PM)
Hi all! Need some financial planning help.

I'm 27 and will be getting married later in the year. Thinking about buying a house but there's a lot of uncertainty in the housing market right now so I'm a bit nervous. Anyway this is what my finances look like now.

Assets:
Monthly pay: RM 3100 after taxes and EPF
FD (Feb 2014, 3.25%) = RM 15, 000
Liquid savings = RM 7, 000 (RM 1000 - Rm 1200 a month goes here from my pay)
Bought some gold during the gold crash valued RM 3, 000 now. Won't be selling till end of the year or longer i guess.

Liability:
Gym membership = RM 300 per month till Feb 2014
Travel = RM 100 a month
Insurance = RM 90 a month
Expenses = Roughly RM 1000 a month
Phone bill = Roughly RM 90
Misc debts = RM 500

I rounded up a few things for the sake of easier calculation but it's pretty close. As it stands now I don't think I can put in money for a house until I get a significant raise but I would like a place for my future family. Basically a house would be ideal but not vital at this point. Also I don't think I'm investing well.

I should also add while I'm not risk adverse I believe my current income and lifestyle would only support a very minimal amount of risk in terms of investment.

Any advise would be welcomed.
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Hi there! Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials.

Base on what you have indicated, your expenses is RM2080 per month which leaves you about RM1000 per month free. Nowadays with RM1000 per month you can only buy a property less than 200K. If you are willing to live in a medium cost apartment priced between RM100K to RM200K, your income is sufficient. Otherwise you need to have a gameplan.

Plan A

Let's say your target is a place priced at RM500K, this is what you should do for the next 5 years (I would suggest not having children until the end of five years. At 27, your advantage is time :-
1. Reduce your expenses to no more than RM1500 per month. Save RM1500 per month into an interest bearing account. If you are a bumiputera put it in ASB. If you put it in an account that gives you 3% per annum, at the end of 5 years you will have RM103K. I would recommend putting at least 60% of any bonuses you have and 50% of any increment you get to the pot and at the end of five years you could possibly save close to RM150K. If your wife can save the same amount you can get this money in half the time i.e. by the time you are 30.

2. Buying a 500K property, you will need 20% of the price as a deposit, legal fees and some minor renovations.


Plan B (which is what I did)

I bought a medium cost apartment for RM200++K and stayed for five years. Then I sold it for a nice profit of 150K. Then I bought another property and sold within a year for a nice profit of RM180K (for this property I was lucky as the seller was desperate to sell). In the span of 7 years I made more than 300K. This does not include my initial outlay and other monthly savings that I contribute to in the last 7 years. Recently I bought a property for RM400++K and am looking at another for RM700K.

The most important is that you save and cut expenses. That is the first step to being financially sound. Once you have a big amount saved up, you will have the ammunition necessary to invest in the investments you are familiar with. You must be familiar with the investment instruments you intend to invest in (whether it is property, shares, gold, unit trusts etc) as the surest step to financial disaster is to make investments base on tips from friends and family.
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post Aug 2 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(cynthusc @ Aug 2 2013, 02:07 PM)
Hi there! Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials.

Base on what you have indicated, your expenses is RM2080 per month which leaves you about RM1000 per month free. Nowadays with RM1000 per month you can only buy a property less than 200K. If you are willing to live in a medium cost apartment priced between RM100K to RM200K, your income is sufficient. Otherwise you need to have a gameplan.

Plan A

Let's say your target is a place priced at RM500K, this is what you should do for the next 5 years (I would suggest not having children until the end of five years. At 27, your advantage is time :-
1. Reduce your expenses to no more than RM1500 per month. Save RM1500 per month into an interest bearing account. If you are a bumiputera put it in ASB. If you put it in an account that gives you 3% per annum, at the end of 5 years you will have RM103K. I would recommend putting at least 60% of any bonuses you have and 50% of any increment you get to the pot and at the end of five years you could possibly save close to RM150K. If your wife can save the same amount you can get this money in half the time i.e. by the time you are 30.

2. Buying a 500K property, you will need 20% of the price as a deposit, legal fees and some minor renovations.
Plan B (which is what I did)

I bought a medium cost apartment for RM200++K and stayed for five years. Then I sold it for a nice profit of 150K. Then I bought another property and sold within a year for a nice profit of RM180K (for this property I was lucky as the seller was desperate to sell).  In the span of 7 years I made more than 300K. This does not include my initial outlay and other monthly savings that I contribute to in the last 7 years. Recently I bought a property for RM400++K and am looking at another for RM700K.

The most important is that you save and cut expenses. That is the first step to being financially sound. Once you have a big amount saved up, you will have the ammunition necessary to invest in the investments you are familiar with. You must be familiar with the investment instruments you intend to invest in (whether it is property, shares, gold, unit trusts etc) as the surest step to financial disaster is to make investments base on tips from friends and family.
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buying 500k property need 100 k deposit ? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(athur1985 @ Aug 2 2013, 07:22 PM)
buying 500k property need 100 k deposit ? rclxub.gif
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You need 50K deposit minimum. Then there is legal fees, stamp duty and renovation costs. All this cost $$$$.
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post Aug 3 2013, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ Aug 1 2013, 09:45 PM)
ya....with such a low monthly expenses and also 150k in saving, you are certainly ready to buy a house. unfortunately, its vy hard for you to get a property at the range of 300-400k nowadays.
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If I come out to work next year, should I work for 3 years first before get a house or buy a house after work for half year. I believe that we will be able to accumulate 6k + 6k = 12 k per mth. With 12k how much loan I will be able to get from bank for 300 to 400k property?
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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:39 PM)
Angpow money since newborn....
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Bro not ang pow money la.....it is from scholarship and the living cost is extremely low for this ulu ulu place
sumore we still haven't started to gif money to our parents so we are able to save more

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Aug 2 2013, 03:54 AM)
Savings...of 150k...u guys still studying...but still accumulate 150k... hmm.gif  total income 2.5k + 2.5k , can save 150k in ur twenties pls la..
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Bro, seriously u feel that I'm boosting?
We are now 27+ d, with total income of 5k we won't be able to save 150k? But our expenses are considered extremely low.
How much saving u expect from two person with total 5k of salary?

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QUOTE(zenwell @ Aug 2 2013, 10:22 AM)
wah DP 250k  thumbup.gif I also just took a mortgage of about 300K recently. your current condo is fully paid up?
that's why last time i opt to study for my degree part-time, and they still offer PTPTN for part-timers. I die die also pay up myself. really cham that time, low pay because qualification is only STPM and ride motor only. But it's worth it that now i'm roaming around freely without the RM200/mth for 15yrs  rclxub.gif
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dump in more down payment to adjust the monthly installment to RM1.4-1.5K so that current condo rental can pay the installment when rent out..

yes current condo fully paid (settle)..

thus I can have time to do more savings and investment...


Sifu out there...

Do u know any calculator that I use to see after 6 yrs of installment,,,show how much exactly I paid principle and interest and how much balance left?

Not the graph type but in actual figures smile.gif
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post Aug 3 2013, 10:05 AM

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Sifu need advise...

My loan repayment after 6 yrs...principle paid RM34K, interest paid XX , balance RM266K still owe bank..

If I savings RM25K per year, thus I will have RM150k in 6 yrs. Let say I able to get 5% interest, thus in 6 yrs I should have RM26K

My new condo installment every month came from rental of my existing condo...


smile.gif Is this formula doable? The money I still owe bank balance

=Money I borrow from bank - principle paid up in 6 yrs - savings in 6 yrs - savings interest in 6 yrs

= 300k - 34k -150k -26k

= RM90K

Balance little money..I think I do not wish to borrow from bank anymore...

If I borrow the balance RM90K from my dad, I give him 5% interest....

1st year RM90K, 5% interest - I pay my dad RM4500 for interest, from my savings RM25K pay principle, thus still owe dad RM65K
2nd year RM65K, 5% interest - I pay my dad RM3250 for interest, from my savings RM25K pay principle, thus still owe dad RM40k
3r year RM40k, 5% interest - I pay my dad RM2000 for interest, from my savings RM25K pay principle, thus still owe dad 15k
4th year RM15K, 5% interest - I pay my dad RM750 for interest, from my savings RM15K pay principle, thus no owe dad anymore..

Total interest paid to dad RM10,500, ok ok...It is like I borrow RM90K, Repay RM100K in 4 yrs time to my dad..

Thus I can settle my RM300K bank loan in 10 yrs time..

Is my plan ok? Can recommend how to do better? Pls. use simple financial term in calculation...I am not so good with formula..

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QUOTE(lozenges @ Aug 1 2013, 02:45 PM)
Hi guy,

I am wondering whether my gf and i are ready to start a family and buy a house as our current situation is as below....

Income of 2 ppl: ~ 5 k
Rental plus utilities: 500 per month
Petrol + touch n go : 130
Phone: Using prepaid top up 10 per mth
Parent: 0 per month as still studying so parent said tak payah bagi
Makan: 700 per mth
Medical: 300 per mth (gf facial)

Ptptn hutang: 28k (repay around 2-2.5k) and gf free ptptn
Debt for car n house: non
Saving: ~ 150k

Hopefully after graduation (estimated to be mid of nx year) can double the current salary.

Do u think we are ready to buy a house around 300-400k?
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U did mention u have scholarship n tat ur saving is mostly based on it?
So, meaning tat both of u already secure a job after graduation n have a net salary of 5k? (after deduct EPF n SOSCO)
If still able to maintain such low monthly exp, why not.
congrats for graduation n marriage ya..

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QUOTE(lozenges @ Aug 3 2013, 01:09 AM)
Bro, seriously u feel that I'm boosting?
We are now 27+ d, with total income of 5k we won't be able to save 150k? But our expenses are considered extremely low.
How much saving u expect from two person with total 5k of salary?
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1. No need give parents money?
2. After u work, I don't think RM130 petrol is enough, expect at least double of that UNLESS your office is just across the street tongue.gif
3. Think about car maintenance
4. U mean 5K + 5K or 5K only? I don't think pay house and children expenses can cover with 5K. After u have family, u gotta think about insurance too hmm.gif
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