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post Sep 27 2010, 03:32 PM

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Nokia’s New Chief Faces Culture of Complacency
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A few years before Apple introduced the iPhone, research engineers at Nokia prepared a prototype of an Internet-ready, touch-screen handset with a large display, which they thought could give the company a powerful advantage in the fast-growing smartphone market.

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post Oct 1 2010, 11:14 AM

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The camera is great, but I'm quite disappointed with the user interface and software. The browser doesn't reform text, the home screen doesn't scroll smoothly like iPhone/Android, but worst of all the widgets must all be length 4?

I own N86 and N82, but I think I'll wait for a Meego smartphone.
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I know Nokia wants to develop and use it's own Meego in the long term. But for the short term, they should just do what Samsung is doing - adopt Android.

Imagine 12MP N8 with Android's Froyo... HTC can say goodbye.
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post Oct 4 2010, 01:07 AM

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Not sure if someone posted this here already:
Review: Nokia N8: part 1, overview and hardware
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:04 AM

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Even GSMArena feels that Gizmodo's test was unfair.
Nokia N8 gets lots of stick in early reviews, we wonder why
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post Oct 4 2010, 10:30 AM

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I think sites like Gizmodo and Engadget have a little bit of nationalistic pride for the USA. That's why even Windows Phone 7 seems to be getting rave reviews about its interface even before it's released.

For me, the Windows Phone 7 OS doesn't impress. The Metro look with blue tiles is kind of dull. There's also no multi-tasking, no SDcard support, no Flash. But it's American, so I guess Gizmodo/Engadget tend to say nice things about it.
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But if you use iPhone 4, hard to switch back to other phones because of the MicroSIM card difference right?
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If only they made the N8 home screens as impressive as the cover flow screen!
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post Oct 5 2010, 01:42 AM

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Not bad. I can even see the number on the bottom left of the booklets (9220730)
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Oct 5 2010, 07:17 AM)
There is no way Apple and Google gonna use Qt. Qt is Nokia own playground. Maybe some of the less popular OS wannabe like Samsung or HTC will join in.
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Actually Google does use Qt, but not in mobile applications yet. They use it for Google Earth.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 5 2010, 09:51 AM)
Honestly, I'm no expert in Qt, but I don't see what's the problem to have Qt support on more platforms? Maybe there is a reason why you think it is not good? Can you share? I curious why "it seems like" you prefer not to have it instead of having it.
Apple already has Objective-C and XCode which supports C++ compilation. However I doubt they'll ever add Qt support because Qt uses a modified version of C++, not the standard one.

As for Android, it's easier to develop using Eclipse and Java than to use Qt and it's version of C++. While there might be community ports of Qt for Android, I doubt Google will ever support it officially. You can't directly compile and run Qt applications on Android because Android uses a Java Virtual Machine. Qt applications are native applications and usually manage their own memory but Java/Android applications are managed using Android's JVM.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:25 AM)
Some people says it's up to Nokia to provide support officially for Android, while some says it's up to Google. Who can do it? Or both can?

It's really up to Nokia if they want Qt to be popular on Android. Google already has a pretty standard development environment with Eclipse and Java.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:25 AM)
As I know, Android also refers to C/C++ libraries right? I think for openGL or many of those libraries?
What about those high end games? Is it written in Java? I think it's more on C/C++?

You can call OpenGL using Java in Android. The Android libraries already wrap the native C calls in Java APIs. Some performance intensive parts may be written in pure C++ using the Android NDK.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:25 AM)
Anyway, as I know, Qt is also available for Embeded Linux, Mac OSX, Windows, Windows CE/Mobile, etc. So, I suppose, it can be further extend to support more platforms in the future, right?

Yes, theoretically it can, but if you take a look at the Android Market, all the applications mare Java applications (APK), so if a Qt port for Android is to be successful, it must easily be integrated into an APK, or directly compile into an APK.

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 5 2010, 10:32 AM)
Android is java platform
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It uses the Java language yes, but it's not pure Sun/Oracle-compliant Java. Which is why Oracle is suing Google for using the Java trademark.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:44 AM)
For the integration/complication part, I think that's up to them to work it out; Plus, if they are able to support it on Android, many applications/games can be supported across multiple-platform easily, which "should" be a good thing? Like current N8 Qt based apps/games for MeeGo.
Previously I saw in YouTube Intel demo their AppStore, which unlike other appstore which target speficic platform, the Intel AppStore support multiple platform, I suppose it's thanks to Qt?
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Yes, it's up to Qt and Nokia to work it out. I don't think Google has any motivation to work on it's own Qt port.

Frankly I've used Qt/C++ and Java, and I prefer Java. It's easier to debug and develop with.
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HTC Desire HD camera isn't bad... 8MP. Dual LED flash.
The problem is the weight and size.
And the battery life, if it's like the EVO 4G, will be abysmal.
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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Oct 5 2010, 11:41 AM)
xenon can be used as torchlight like led flash?
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I don't think so.
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Oct 5 2010, 12:28 PM)
aiyoooo.... what a big IDontList....  shakehead.gif

http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/p/idont-list.html
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A lot of it is nitpicking actually.
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The Lumix phones really look like Sony Ericsson designed them.
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I will wait at least a month before buying this phone. There are a lot of hyped phones coming out end of the year - Desire HD, Desire Z, Windows Phone 7 - and I want to try them all first before making a decision.
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Oct 6 2010, 09:42 AM)
prefer N8 .... the quality look more sharp than other ...... nod.gif
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