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 Nokia N8 - V5 - [The King of Camera Phones], Everythings about the Nokia N8...

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BuFung
post Oct 6 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 6 2010, 10:59 PM)
I would agree everything MobileBurn says.

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=11093

UI have no WOW factor, which is true and he did state "Best Cameraphone" which also true. Check his review. I would give the same point to N8.
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still some multi tap require in camera interface....

Unbelievable no portrait qwerty in a full touch... ONCE again... sweat.gif sweat.gif <--- this point are enough for other OS to laugh at this full touch phone... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:16 PM)
hi guys, just back, checked the firmware, it's the retail version one  sad.gif

also, i did a second check on the camera, and found out why the first time it's so sucky...the camera lens have a freaking thick layer of finger oils...so i kinda wiped it out, and tried it again...it's better.

but I really gotta complain another thing about pinch and zoom...normally with iOS or Android, the moment we pinch, the photo scaling begins, but this one is like how S60V5 behave, when u press zoom then only it start processing the image to fit the resolution...however that processing is on time only for the photo, means as long as u are at the same photo, it will only process the zoom in once. The photos have significantly less noise then iPhone 4(DUH!) and also N82, however i don think the xenon flash is actually as bright as N82..also, photo scrolling is smooth

i also tried added some widgets to the homescreen, sadly, it's fixed slot, as we all have known...and just wanna ask those who happen to know..will there be any 3rd party widgets?

also, about the transition, there's no obvious improvement in that category..rotating the screen will just fade out + fade in..
kenetic scrolling is also not that smooth, but it's significant improvement from 5800..

as for phone book..it now adds a small thumbnail beside ur name, i think it's pretty cool, provided that u have all ur friends picture tagged to your contact, that is..

sadly say since it's in pyramid, the phone is offline mode, means no test on maps, browser, and any other thing that require connection.

also, i notice that when u launch an app, the whole UI will slightly fade to dimmer, indicate that the app is launching. Overall it's actually some improvements here and there, but it's still not enough to impress people that gone to other OS..
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as I said... even if it is not the retail one... it won't be far from it.....
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 6 2010, 11:16 PM)
But I heard upcoming firmware, will have qwerty in portrait mode and new camera features, thats why I would give it a chances. But don't be like N97, every firmware is a disappointment doh.gif  doh.gif

Oh N97 is a nightmare doh.gif  doh.gif


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:18 pm

Wow, u really believe Eldar??  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

See what GSMArena say about Eldar

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8_gets_lots...y-news-1973.php
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and this is why I don;t understand why we as a Consumer.. we pay money for the phone.. and we have to bag and pray for a better, more stable firmware every time you buy a Nokia phone??? a qwerty in portrait is very simple thing.. but also a very very essential thing for a phone... we all know typing in a keypad like screen is a nightmare....

N95 is ultra unstable first out...

N97 has never ever have a satisfied firmware until today...

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post Oct 6 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:23 PM)
yeah i know, but just for the sake of confirming, i just had it checked...no hard task also mah

but i think the home screen would really need major major improvements, i wont be too picky with the menu yet..
btw, i think N8 already have custom rom..read from engadget, it allows N8 to shot 720p 30FPS instead of just 25FPS, and the ability to continuously autofocus during video shots , and the picture can show uncompress version of the JPEG, which result in 11MB per picture..
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wao.. RAW picture.. buy a class 6 MicroSD thumbup.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:27 PM)
hope so, but i think it would void the warranty??
but iirc the salesmen say warranty covers everything but water damage, drop damage or tampered phone(means let other people apart from nokia service centre open the phone)
i smell something cooking already  tongue.gif
maybe there would be some custom rom for 1080p eh?
not RAW picture, just uncompressed JPEG..although i wish it's raw...hehe
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1080p.. wow.. whistling.gif whistling.gif

oh I see.. not compressed JPEG.. but JPEG itself already a compression.... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 6 2010, 11:32 PM)
1080p... I doubt so, but its cool if we could change ROM, cook ROM, I might apply Maemo ROM, or Android ROM or MeeGo ROM tongue.gif


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:32 pm

Silver, cause Black seems ordinary these day.  notworthy.gif
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dream On Leo... even u can apply those rom, I don't think those rom able to drive the ability of the GPU... biggrin.gif


Black is the best.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:37 PM)
well, something like less silver-ing color lar, don really know how to explain...like metal silver and plastic silver kinda difference i suppose...

for me ah, if there's green available and the color differents between the top/bottom and body aint that big, i will take that one..or maybe blue, but right now i think 9i had enough black phones(N81, N82, and how iphone 4, all black tongue.gif), and silver aint exactly my color..


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:38 pm

but sure, but iirc u can export JPEG with 100% quality...
the site just mention it's uncompressed image, but since the demo picture is .jpg, i'll assume he meant those 100% quality exported jpegs


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:39 pm

personally i hope there's a android rom for it...maybe can choose dual boot or whatever..since it's using the same OMAP as Milestone, i do think it's possible...hehe
then i can save money for my android device since N8 can double as both  tongue.gif
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I more hope there is a full functioning Android ROM for the wave.... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:44 PM

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BBXiong lost hope for the OS liao... biggrin.gif hope for new ROM... tongue.gif


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:46 pm
QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:44 PM)
wave? as in google wave? i tot google discontinued that site?

anyway, what i meant was full functional lar..no point having a partially functions android rom right? it's like u cant do this and that...damn no point
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Samsung wave brother...

most of those port ROM are partial function.... too bad... biggrin.gif

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post Oct 6 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:49 PM)
lol...really lost hope lar, at least the lost hope to the nokia version of symbian...if there's some 3rd party that come up with awesome rom that allow high customization flexibility near to or even to android's level, i don mind using symbian...but as of right now, sorry, don think so...maybe just bring it around as GPS and compact camera...


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:49 pmanyway got u guys that havent check out the link, this is the uncompressed jpg i am talking about

http://hyperx.garrettcullum.com/1/05102010063.jpg

warning, huge sized image
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buying a Camera + GPS device... biggrin.gif ASUS just release a full Gramin Android phone and the Garmin inside are identical to those standalone one...

wonder those function work without a SIM card or not.. I mean the N8... tongue.gif


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:55 pm@BBxiong.. what I read the Wave hardware are pretty similar to the Galaxy S... what is really difficult is samsung do not allow other to touch/access it bootloader... Galaxy Rom in wave will certainly kill off a lot of Galaxy's sales since it is much cheaper than the Galaxy....

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post Oct 7 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 6 2010, 11:55 PM)
identical to standalone GPS device means power sucker also wor...but gotta be honest, the accuracy is incomparable to phone GPS devices..hehe

what function? GPS? i suppose it could, just no A-GPS support i suppose


Added on October 6, 2010, 11:57 pmnot to mention the it has a front camera, and the main camera has flash! lol..

and yeah, pricing wise also, Wave is cheaper compared to Galaxy S...if u ask me, if Wave can get full functional android, it's actually more like an upgrade to Galaxy S  tongue.gif
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u mean phone GPS are superior than standalone GPS?

the functions u wanna use la.. GPS and Camera.. since u not use it as a phone.. laugh.gif

I love the wave's slim and metal body.. damn nice holding it.. the screen are really STUNNING... sweat.gif


soi muk... good night...
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post Oct 7 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 12:05 AM)
Contender reveal!

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8_vs_samsun...eview-519p2.php

Here are the real identities of the three handsets:

A. Sony HX5

B. Samsung Pixon 12

C. Nokia N8

thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

sklchan pls put this in the first page!
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wow... N8 noise reduction really not aggressive and preserve the most detail....


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post Oct 7 2010, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 12:08 AM)
It already beat Digicam  rclxm9.gif
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u most happy one la... laugh.gif ur lovely n8 whistling.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif


QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 7 2010, 12:09 AM)
No, I meant standalone way lot better...

Now that you mentioned it, wave's design is nicer also, haha...

lol BuFung, ngi you he hakka ngin ah? Haha...
Btw I be bringing my LX-3 to compare the image quality as well
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heh loh hakka lao... soi muk loh...

the Garmin phone claim have full function with the standalone one... this time On Android oh...

http://www.gsmarena.com/garmin_asus_a10-3295.php


QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 12:09 AM)
Damn, I thought C was Sony Digicam tongue.gif
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I contribute 1 vote there.. I also tot C is Cybershot.. night...

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post Oct 7 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 12:23 AM)
U buy N8, u won't carry digicam anymore. But don't think it will replace DSLR. Maybe 2 years later tongue.gif
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I dont carry dc anymore since the day I bought N95... tongue.gif
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post Oct 7 2010, 10:27 AM

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IdonK manage battery pretty good oh.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 7 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 7 2010, 10:31 AM)
lol...for me i am not sure, cos for me is like every lunch time play game etc etc...

but i tried turn off bluetooth, cellular data and even 3G, it does save a lot of battery...
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how long ur IdonK last? still new sure play a lot.. later then u wont tongue.gif
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post Oct 7 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 7 2010, 10:54 AM)
Yea, but still not complete features (e.g. still lacking manual adjustment of shutter and aperture); though it unlocks much more control the original software, even extreme ISO which result in heavy noise. What I really like about it is the manual focus which can focus even closer than the original software. Another nice feature is the software take far far better pictures than the original software, it makes the shot looks like it's been edited by professionals. There's also HDR camera app and LowLight camera app, which does the job specificially.

Anyway, as above mentioned, if it's software, many things can be done, just whether N8 will get this kind of features. Since, it already come with better hardwares, the potential is higher just limited by software I suppose...
My worry is actually the lifespan of the battery, let's say 300~500 charge cycle depending on usage, if heavy usage possibly within a year the lifespan reduced, and what's the cost to replace the battery? Watching YouTube, to change the battery, need to dissemble the whole device first and it's pretty "not nice" experience.
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U dont have a choice.. a year + later or 2 years down the road time to change the battery....




QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 11:00 AM)
Any phone can last 2~3 days if u only use for call and messaging. But thats not what smartphone are for nowadays since smartphone have browser, apps, and etc, people would ABUSE it hence battery drain pretty quick. So far, my SGS can last 1 days and a half without using any 3G, Wifi, playing apps, just messaging and calls.
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My phone always On EDGE... and it is live... it can last almost 3 days... tongue.gif


Added on October 7, 2010, 11:06 am@BBXiong.. waiting for ur monitoring result... My friend's IdontK last 3 days normal usage....

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post Oct 7 2010, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 7 2010, 11:08 AM)
wuah...3 days ah? how he use oh

for me i really cant afford to turn off cellular and 3G, cos i from time to time itchy hand to check app store for apps that drop price to free one..download then while they are free tongue.gif
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I dont think he is in Data plan laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 7 2010, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Oct 7 2010, 11:11 AM)
What would be a good combo for N8 + 3G plans? Got 3G prepaid?
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there is Data prepaid... Digi is RM2/day...


QUOTE(BBXiong @ Oct 7 2010, 11:12 AM)
oh...like that no wonder lar...without cellular data sure safe a lot of battery  laugh.gif
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As you see Nokia phone battery last long one of the main reason are not in Data....

and 2nd, the hardware are on the low side.....

it has nothing to do with the OS..


Added on October 7, 2010, 11:18 am
QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 11:15 AM)
My data plan have already exceed 500mb. Can't use it now.  sad.gif
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Maxis the Blood sucker... doh.gif

I never ever worry my Data will exceed or not.. biggrin.gif

some time tethering 1 night also 200-300MB liao... tongue.gif

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post Oct 7 2010, 11:20 AM

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take the example of my phone.. when I ON 3G/HSDPA data.. my phone last about 15-16 hours ONLY....

If I on 2G+/EDGE.. it last almost 3 days..

very big different...


Added on October 7, 2010, 11:24 am
QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Oct 7 2010, 11:20 AM)
I've just noticed my Unbilled amount from RM28 now RM80 and that time I noticed that I have already exceed 500mb. No SMS notification says that I have reached 500mb. Have to stop using it. sad.gif

last months, it reached RM280. SIgh~
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few month down the road u can buy a SGS....



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another Review...

This point strike me again.. which I already mention few times here...
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A few features in the software didn't strike me as user-friendly. For example, unlike the iPhone OS, Android, and WebOS, S3 doesn't allow you to upload photos or videos to your social networks directly from the camera or gallery app. Instead, to share your photos, you must go into the dedicated Ovi social networking client, which aggregates your social networking accounts into a single app.


http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/552..._n8.html#review

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